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crayzkirk 04-22-2025 03:49 PM

The VPN goes on your device, like a Firestick or PC. The industry preys on people not knowing how things work. Yeah, computers and TCP/IP are complicated. Read up on how things work and ask friends/family for assistance.

gh4chiefs 04-22-2025 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by crayzkirk (Post 18037699)
The VPN goes on your device, like a Firestick or PC. The industry preys on people not knowing how things work. Yeah, computers and TCP/IP are complicated. Read up on how things work and ask friends/family for assistance.

According to Google, Rokus do not support VPN and I'm back to the "router plugged into a router" thing.

For the time being, it's a non-issue as I no longer have YTTV.

And with respect to Fish, I STILL think YTTV made a change in late 2024. I just talked to my friend who also has Verizon Home 5G and he said he's had it for approximately 2 years and had YTTV that whole time. He never had an issue until December of 24, approximately the same time it started for me. So SOMEBODY, made some kind of switch. The difference between me and him is that he's only had to reset it a couple of times since then. I've had to reset probably on average of a least once a month and more right before I cancelled it.

I have a working theory that MAYBE it's because he has an Android phone and it's doing something in the background with his location. Because the problem started for both of us after we had a day trip to STL about the first Saturday in December and the problem started almost immediately after that trip. However I'm not sure how that relates to me though because I have an iphone with the locations services turned off except when using the app, And I NEVER use the app except when I had to refresh my location for my app on the Roku.

Bearcat 04-22-2025 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 18037092)
You can blame it on Verizon but in reality, geo-locating via IP address is a very inefficient and antiquated way of doing it.

Yeah, that's probably Roku's fault... google says it only determines location by IP address. Apparently an Amazon Fire stick looks at router info and some are even GPS enabled.... granted, last time my YTTV bitched about location on my Fire, it wanted me to verify by phone, I assume so it could use GPS.

Now that I think about it, wonder if enabling location use for YTTV even when the app isn't in use would help with such issues... if it would actually communicate back to other devices. :hmmm:

Bearcat 04-22-2025 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by gh4chiefs (Post 18037731)
I have a working theory that MAYBE it's because he has an Android phone and it's doing something in the background with his location. Because the problem started for both of us after we had a day trip to STL about the first Saturday in December and the problem started almost immediately after that trip. However I'm not sure how that relates to me though because I have an iphone with the locations services turned off except when using the app, And I NEVER use the app except when I had to refresh my location for my app on the Roku.

Ha, I hadn't read that when I posted.... mine is set to only use location when using the app.

Now I kind of want to travel with my Fire stick next time I leave the state just to try out turning on background location for YTTV on my phone. LMAO

gh4chiefs 04-22-2025 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 18037865)
Ha, I hadn't read that when I posted.... mine is set to only use location when using the app.

Now I kind of want to travel with my Fire stick next time I leave the state just to try out turning on background location for YTTV on my phone. LMAO

LOL, yeah I understand. I don't have it anymore but this is like an itch I can't scratch. I wish I could crack the code on what triggers it to switch. If it was once every 3 months, ok I can deal with it, it's actually pretty simple to fix. But SOMETHING is triggering it more frequently and that's the "itch I can't scratch."

If I knew WHAT was triggering it, then maybe I could come up with a strategy to deal with it. (Maybe at least get it on the "once every three months" schedule. ) The more I think about it, the more I'm inclined to think it's using my location services on my phone even when it's supposedly off. Because if that's the case, that actually would explain a lot as I'm frequently out of my current geographic viewing area.

Fish 04-22-2025 09:44 PM

FYI, if you are using an Android device to stream YoutubeTV, a fake GPS location app works just fine for spoofing your location to get local sports. I've used this one many times to watch Chiefs games when out of state in a different viewership zone:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...hl=en_US&pli=1

Doesn't work on Roku though..

htismaqe 04-23-2025 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by crayzkirk (Post 18037616)
Why not just get a VPN and assign a certain server so you connect to the same place each time?

Personally, I'm about done. Amazon double charged for BritBox, wants to charge for ad-free shows and most movies are available on free options. Netflix has gone from $7.99 to $17.99 and makes it difficult to watch when I am not home. I watch too much TV already and can do without all of the subscriptions.

I know people who subscribe/cancel the services to catch the shows they want. It's time to quit being lazy and take charge.

If you have Verizon or T-Mobile, check out what streaming services they have available. We get Netflix, Max, and the Disney bundle (Disney, Hulu, ESPN) for about half of normal price. I had Google One 2TB through Google, for example. It's $10 a month. Through my mobile provider it's $5 a month and I get Gemini access for free.

Dayze 04-23-2025 04:51 AM

F ew years back when Google fiber no longer offered their bundle of internet and tv the offered us a year of YouTube tv for free. Figured why not since we’d have to figure out some way to watch tv. Man I’ve really enjoyed it. we have YouTube tv, netflix, prime and paramount plus

Prime we already had because my wife has a pretty good stream of stuff coming from Prime anyway. We already had netflix. Only thing we added was paramount plus which is so so. find ourselves on prime way more often.

YouTube tv is great especially for me who likes to watch YouTube. In fact I probably watch more YouTube than regular channels.

BigRedChief 04-23-2025 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by gh4chiefs (Post 18036793)
Why?

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 18036809)
Because they are legally bound by geographical viewership restrictions like any other service provider. Things such as sports blackouts and other media that's region based. It's not just the user's personal preference for local channels.

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Originally Posted by gh4chiefs (Post 18036823)
Well thank you, you're first person that's explained that. YTTV Customer Service refused to give me that information.

Settling your location for streaming has been around since the 80's. It originally was to prevent theft, now its for a lot of reasons.

BigRedChief 04-23-2025 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 18038272)
YouTube tv is great especially for me who likes to watch YouTube. In fact I probably watch more YouTube than regular channels.

I also find myself watching more you tube videos than I did a couple of years ago. Way better quality and depth than just a few years ago. I've already got more videos saved than I'll ever watch.

gh4chiefs 04-23-2025 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 18038280)
Settling your location for streaming has been around since the 80's.

The 80's? Who the hell was streaming anything in the 80's?


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