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OnTheWarpath15 02-25-2025 09:22 AM

We all know that Veach isn't going to hamstring us with a deal, so I'm not worried about the money. He'll get a semi-friendly deal out of Trey or he'll let him walk.

If this is accurate, the thinking is likely keeping DJ and having him compete with Kingsley. I can't imagine they are going to give up on him after one season.

This year's cap hit would be minimal for Trey, and Thuney and Taylor are off the books when the hit increases.

At least then your interior is rock solid, and if DJ/Kingsley don't work out you address it. Otherwise they don't work out and you have 4/5 OL spots to figure out in 2026.

Wisconsin_Chief 02-25-2025 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17978902)
CP worries way to much about money and the cap.

This, especially in regards to this current team. This organization is absolutely swimming in cash and we have next to no dead money or void years hits, we can keep Trey and sign a LT if we really want to and it would have zero long term impact on our ability to do anything.

Rainbarrel 02-25-2025 09:25 AM

Whoever gets Trey gets their fans riled up. We weakened the Chiefs! So pay more

Coochie liquor 02-25-2025 09:28 AM

If true it sure says a lot about Veach’s concerns over all the OL he’s drafted in the last few drafts that haven’t amounted to much aside from Creed and Trey. Which will say a lot about his inability to draft OL, among other areas.

Hope this isn’t the case.

staylor26 02-25-2025 09:30 AM

I'm fine with it, even though I don't prefer it, you just better get a solid LT on a rookie/cheap deal then...

FloridaMan88 02-25-2025 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17978884)
FWIW I don’t like Dianna. Ya’ll hate on Nate Taylor for his info but this dumb bitch guaranteed we were getting a 1st for Sneed last year.

We’ll see

She’s the equivalent of those rumor aggregators… almost everything she reports are rumors she hears from other sources, regardless of credibility.

staylor26 02-25-2025 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 17978977)
If true it sure says a lot about Veach’s concerns over all the OL he’s drafted in the last few drafts that haven’t amounted to much aside from Creed and Trey. Which will say a lot about his inability to draft OL, among other areas.

Hope this isn’t the case.

"Veach can't draft OL" is the new "Veach can't draft WRs"

You people are ****ing exhausting.

Kingsley was a 21 year old rookie.

Morris and Niang were taken in the late 3rd.

The problem is OT, and its investment and draft position, not an inability to draft one altogether.

htismaqe 02-25-2025 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 17978977)
If true it sure says a lot about Veach’s concerns over all the OL he’s drafted in the last few drafts that haven’t amounted to much aside from Creed and Trey. Which will say a lot about his inability to draft OL, among other areas.

Hope this isn’t the case.

The only reason we are talking about Trey Smith is because he's about to get paid a record-setting contract. I think Veach is okay when it comes to drafting linemen.

Coochie liquor 02-25-2025 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 17978967)
We all know that Veach isn't going to hamstring us with a deal, so I'm not worried about the money.nHe'll get a semi-friendly deal out of Trey or he'll let him walk.

If this is accurate, the thinking is likely keeping DJ and having him compete with Kingsley. I can't imagine they are going to give up on him after one season.

This year's cap hit would be minimal for Trey, and Thuney and Taylor are off the books when the hit increases.

At least then your interior is rock solid, and if DJ/Kingsley don't work out you address it. Otherwise they don't work out and you have 4/5 OL spots to figure out in 2026.

I’m less worried about the cap vs Smith regressing the last couple seasons. Dude gets handled too much for a large contract with KC. Guess Nourzad, and Kingsley, and Morris, and Hanson are all just like Kinnard? That’s a lot of whiffs!

Coochie liquor 02-25-2025 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17978985)
"Veach can't draft OL" is the new "Veach can't draft WRs"

You people are ****ing exhausting.

Kingsley was a 21 year old rookie.

Morris and Niang were taken in the late 3rd.

The problem is OT, and its investment and draft position, not an inability to draft one altogether.

Show me the numbers. Since the Creed draft we’ve drafted 5 OL. If we’re planning on keeping Trey that’s 5 picks completely wasted.

staylor26 02-25-2025 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 17978989)
Show me the numbers. Since the Creed draft we’ve drafted 5 OL. If we’re planning on keeping Trey that’s 5 picks completely wasted.

Are you really going to be this disingenuous. 2, almost half, of those guys were late round rookies this year. All but one came outside of the top 75 picks

Coochie liquor 02-25-2025 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17978985)
"Veach can't draft OL" is the new "Veach can't draft WRs"

You people are ****ing exhausting.

Kingsley was a 21 year old rookie.

Morris and Niang were taken in the late 3rd.

The problem is OT, and its investment and draft position, not an inability to draft one altogether.

So basically he’s wasting picks drafting OL past the second round is what you’re saying? Why can’t Morris or any of the 5 players (4 because Kinnard was never in consideration) he’s drafted make the lineup? Other teams seem to hit on OL beyond round 2.

ThaVirus 02-25-2025 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17978890)
This reads to me like the Chiefs are leaking for PR; so they can say they tried when he of course prices himself out.

Hopefully you’re right and this is just lip service.

staylor26 02-25-2025 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 17978992)
So basically he’s wasting picks drafting OL past the second round is what you’re saying? Why can’t Morris or any of the 5 players (4 because Kinnard was never in consideration) he’s drafted make the lineup? Other teams seem to hit on OL beyond round 2.

The problem is that other than the 2 late round rookies that you're disingenuously counting, the majority of those investments have been to find a franchise LT, and no, franchise LTs are rarely found outside of the 2nd round. If Morris can even be a swing T, that would be a great pick. That's where expectations need to be for a late 3rd.

This team has zero issues finding starting IOL on day 3. Just look at Trey Smith and Allegreti for recent examples that easily disprove your BS narrative about the entire OL. Again, the issue has been OT, no need to paint an entire narrative about the OL.

YontsRBake 02-25-2025 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 17978977)
If true it sure says a lot about Veach’s concerns over all the OL he’s drafted in the last few drafts that haven’t amounted to much aside from Creed and Trey. Which will say a lot about his inability to draft OL, among other areas.

Hope this isn’t the case.

He’s drafted a C that is on pace to be one of the best Cs of all-time and a very good guard.

“He can’t draft OT” would be more accurate, although that’s hard to when you’re picking 32 every year


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