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FloridaMan88 02-14-2025 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Brooklyn (Post 17968850)
its not just the pressure and fatigue while you are in the moment, but imagine the mental toll of envisioning yourself winning it. No one was going to say, hey history of a threepeat, congrats you're done!

The conversation would instantly go to a 4-peat, much like it did quite literally on the podium in Vegas. Its an unending weight that yeah, maybe made them think about we are gonna have to do this all over again and be in this exact same spot a year from now.

Embracing that challenge is a winner’s mentality.

Clearly some of the coaches on Andy’s staff are lacking that mindset.

ThrobProng 02-14-2025 12:12 PM

There's a very real chance that the Chicago Bulls would've pulled off an 8-peat, like the SNL sketch, had Jordan not taken two years off. I don't accept the fatigue excuse.

The loss is on the front office and coaching.

KC_Connection 02-14-2025 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Brooklyn (Post 17968850)
its not just the pressure and fatigue while you are in the moment, but imagine the mental toll of envisioning yourself winning it. No one was going to say, hey history of a threepeat, congrats you're done!

The conversation would instantly go to a 4-peat, much like it did quite literally on the podium in Vegas. Its an unending weight that yeah, maybe made them think about we are gonna have to do this all over again and be in this exact same spot a year from now.

I understand why a competitor like Mahomes jumped immediately to thinking about that (the next goal in a long line of goals he has for himself in this sport), but I almost thought doing so in the moment took away just how special it was what that team did last year.

The back-to-back was an incredible generational accomplishment in the modern NFL, it hadn't been done in 20 years for a reason. Let it breathe a bit.

Sassy Squatch 02-14-2025 12:15 PM

They are tough. Very very tough. But the players are the ones that need the support the most, and having a coach that thinks like this useless schmuck would potentially be debilitating mentally.

Brooklyn 02-14-2025 12:23 PM

Look, all I am saying is, the evidence was on the field. I don't think you can pin it squarely on any coach or vibe in the lockerroom. Credit to the Eagles for having an awesome team, but the Chiefs appear to have suffocated under the weight of all of this - past, present, and future history combined.

They actually slayed a dragon by getting farther than anyone in history, and much like the aftermath of :13 seconds game, they probably shot their load in doing so. I respect the hell out of these guys and love this team, but they are all humans end of the day. If any player or coach was feeling that way, I am not gonna begrduge them.

stevegroganfan 02-14-2025 12:24 PM

It is very rarely mentioned but having to integrate so many new players on offense is difficult even if some new players do tend to add motivation like win it for a once truly great but now declining player like Hopkins or whoever.

Look at all of the brand new to Mahomes receivers Mahomes had to work with this year.

Chiefs fans and pundits nationally underrate the talent Mahomes was working with on offense compared to most QB's. Chiefs still had a top 10 line when used right.

But Worthy, Hopkins and Brown were all brand new to the Chiefs offense and most QB's don't have to deal with that in a given season. In Mahomes first year as a starter at least he must have had a full year throwing the ball to Kelce/Hill in practice. Even JJSS was just in his 2nd year with the team...obviously he doesn't have much in the tank but familiarity with the receivers had to at least be a problem worth mentioning.

And while Kelce's decline as a receiver has been exaggerated, Mahomes has to adjust a bit to Kelce's decline which is probably hard for any QB to do. I remember Brady trying to throw to a Gronk who couldn't move because of a bum ankle in the 2nd Super Bowl...some of that is because the Patriots had poor depth at the skill position players given his injury but it is probably out of comfort as well...knowing he is on the same page as the receiver/TE.

What all this means if the Chiefs knew they could trade Worthy and that he would be a lower tier number 1 receiver for most of his career, it may not make sense to trade him for slightly above average left tackle. There would be real risk of blowing a season in doing so if Rice can't come back healthy. Expecting Mahomes to learn even more new receivers would be risky.

Continuity is important even if some new players/coaches to add/maintain motivation may also be important.

philfree 02-14-2025 12:27 PM

The mental toll of wanting the 3-peat so bad appears to have had an effect on Mahomes. That pressure along with the grind could easily have boiled over to the rest of the team and organization. With the O line issues imagine the pressure on Thuney protecting Mahomes backside. We came out awfully tight in the big game, the pressure was immense.

DrunkBassGuitar 02-14-2025 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 17968838)
Kelce alluded to how things were tough playing deep in the post season on his podcast too

Kelce can say it because he's running and blocking and getting hit and the difficulty just ramps up.

An assistant coach? nah

PAChiefsGuy 02-14-2025 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17968847)
There are plenty of hungry coaches out there who would take his place.

Sounds like a change is needed.

Exactly

We don't need this type of attitude on the team especially w Mahomes here. Whoever this is - he needs to go. This isn't the team for him.

TinyEvel 02-14-2025 12:48 PM

I mean, it's hard being a Chiefs fan.

January used to be a month of getting things done but the past seven years that extra month of following my team and watching the games, the recaps, the blogs, it's like an extra month taken from your life every year.

Not to mention shopping for championship merchandise, got to make all those decisions, and whether to get the same stuff (bar glasses, hats, banners) for multiple years, or get new different stuff every year. It's a lot of work, usually half-way into February.

Then you have to find room in your home to display all this stuff. I mean, if we had three-peated I would've had to convert my kid's room into a display room. Luckily little Jamaal gets his bedroom for one more year.

Red Dawg 02-14-2025 12:58 PM

Coaches coach and teach, motivate through positive and negative reinforcement. Players are responsible for their actions and attitude. Motivation is a self-inflicted mind set.

PatMahomesIsGod 02-14-2025 12:59 PM

Sounds like coaches don’t make extra for the playoffs.

And please be Andy Heck and/or Nagy…..

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-14-2025 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17968821)
This whole “Super Bowl fatigue” makes no sense when you consider that the Chiefs had like 24 days off between their last meaningful regular season game and the start of the playoffs… and then another bye week before the Super Bowl.

I can understand some residual effects of a third straight Super Bowl run… but all that time off during the past month wasn’t enough to have the team better prepared to play on Sunday?

Seems like a cop out.

It's not really time off when you're preparing for an upcoming game. sounds like he just wants the big summer off thingy

Dunerdr 02-14-2025 01:09 PM

Feels like fake news for a story to me tbh.

comochiefsfan 02-14-2025 01:10 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We need real dawgs on this staff again he was never scared to call out Pat <a href="https://t.co/TE6mrhm0XJ">pic.twitter.com/TE6mrhm0XJ</a> <a href="https://t.co/LZvYOpa57O">https://t.co/LZvYOpa57O</a></p>&mdash; YBG ky (@4Kyce) <a href="https://twitter.com/4Kyce/status/1890186696085438776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 13, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is what we’re missing from Bieniemy. He knew how to push Pat’s competitive buttons and get him fired up.

Nagy and his staff are too concerned about being his buddy. Who on the staff is challenging him in the moment and raising his level of intensity?

Too many softies on the offensive staff right now.


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