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TwistedChief 02-13-2025 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17968171)
Not all.


Nice attempt to change the subject again because, as usual, you have nothing interesting or insightful to say.


;)

We were 17-2 in games this past year in contests where we tried. Many of which we lacked a functional OL.

Please compare that to prior years and document the degradation of Reid’s abilities so we can discuss that point.

MahomesMagic 02-13-2025 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17968172)
The past was great (although you have to go to back to 2022 to when the offense was actually “great”)… so don’t evolve/adapt for the future.

Talk about being a “prisoner of the moment”.

I've praised this run like 20 times since the game but Clown Boy just makes shit up.

TwistedChief 02-13-2025 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17968172)
The past was great (although you have to go to back to 2022 to when the offense was actually “great”)… so don’t evolve/adapt for the future.

Talk about being a “prisoner of the moment”.

Is it easy to run a west coast offense when your top two receivers aren’t in the system and your LT isn’t playing at an NFL level? How would other coaches have done?

MahomesMagic 02-13-2025 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17968174)
We were 17-2 in games this past year in contests where we tried. Many of which we lacked a functional OL.

Please compare that to prior years and document the degradation of Reid’s abilities so we can discuss that point.



Offense sucked. Mahomes was exceptional late in the games and on 3rd down this year which saved the pedestrian playcalling and enhanced our record.

TwistedChief 02-13-2025 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17968180)
Offense sucked. Mahomes was exceptional late in the games and on 3rd down this year which saved the pedestrian playcalling and enhanced our record.

Walk me through how that was a function of Reid and not the OL and the receiving options.

Bearcat 02-13-2025 07:11 PM

Florida education... where focusing on the past instead of what happened 4 days ago is called "prisoner of the moment".


We've done it, we've reached peak offseason reerunation.


Healing can begin.

MahomesMagic 02-13-2025 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17968182)
Walk me through how that was a function of Reid and not the OL and the receiving options.

Well you claimed in 2023 that Toney, or Justin Watson, or Sky Moore as a top WR option was fine.


So having a 1st round pick in Worthy, Juju, Hopkins, and fan favorite Justin Watson was more than enough weapons by that standard.

The revolving door at LT certainly hurt the offense but can't be only reason for the mediocre offense. We had everyone else on offensive line healthy and coaching can slide people to help even a shit LT.

FloridaMan88 02-13-2025 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17968179)
Is it easy to run a west coast offense when your top two receivers aren’t in the system and your LT isn’t playing at an NFL level? How would other coaches have done?

Whose fault was it that the Chiefs went into a season with two LT’s who were incapable of playing at an NFL level?

Also do you think that fixing the LT position and getting a healthy Rice back are all that’s needed to return this offense to an elite level?

TwistedChief 02-13-2025 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17968184)
Well you claimed in 2023 that Toney, or Justin Watson, or Sky Moore as a top WR option was fine.


So having a 1st round pick in Worthy, Juju, Hopkins, and fan favorite Justin Watson was more than enough weapons by that standard.

The revolving door at LT certainly hurt the offense but can't be only reason for the mediocre offense. We had everyone else on offensive line healthy and coaching can slide people to help even a shit LT.

I claimed in 2023 that this team could win a SB with that WR corps. They did. You felt otherwise and were proven wrong.

They barely won a SB last year. They barely lost a SB this year. Let's not pretend that you're not just swinging wildly on a narrative based on a single game's outcome.

TwistedChief 02-13-2025 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17968185)
Whose fault was it that the Chiefs went into a season with two LT’s who were incapable of playing at an NFL level?

Also do you think that fixing the LT position and getting a healthy Rice back are all that’s needed to return this offense to an elite level?

I think Veach and Reid were at fault.

I think this offense can be elite if they fix the LT and have Rice back. Absolutely.

dirk digler 02-13-2025 09:15 PM

Could be a coincidence that the 2 years Bleymaier and Nagy are here they represent the 2 worst years of Mahomes careers. Could also be that Reid's offense has gotten stale.

With that being said no doubt in my mind now that the pressure of a 3-peat got to him and the team. They played tight while the Eagles played like they had nothing to lose.

Hammock Parties 02-13-2025 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17968265)
Could be a coincidence that the 2 years Bleymaier and Nagy are here they represent the 2 worst years of Mahomes careers. Could also be that Reid's offense has gotten stale.

We just ****ing scored 32 points in the AFC Championship game with no left tackle. :LOL:

Some of you REALLY gotta pump the brakes. The biggest failures of the last two seasons are on lack of talent, not coaching.

dirk digler 02-13-2025 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17968268)
We just ****ing scored 32 points in the AFC Championship game with no left tackle. :LOL:

Some of you REALLY gotta pump the brakes. The biggest failures of the last two seasons are on lack of talent, not coaching.

You can flip that argument around and say we had good enough talent to make it to the SB 3 years in a row, winning 2 of them.

Not going to disagree that talent is an issue but so could coaching. We have watched this team struggle offensively for 2 years, especially this year where each game was a knife fight.

But going back to what I said, the last 2 years have been the worst of Pat's career some of it is talent but I really believe they have turned him into Alex Smith. I want the 2018 Mahomes back.

irafreak 02-13-2025 09:57 PM

See i felt like mahomes Twitter apology was written in a way that seemed like relief...like he failed and could breathe again. It didn't sound as disappointed as I would have expected... just sorry but glad it's over.

Maybe next year pat can just let it rip again. He doesn't owe us any apology. He's given us all the best years of chiefs football we've ever seen.

New World Order 02-13-2025 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17968265)
Could be a coincidence that the 2 years Bleymaier and Nagy are here they represent the 2 worst years of Mahomes careers. Could also be that Reid's offense has gotten stale.

With that being said no doubt in my mind now that the pressure of a 3-peat got to him and the team. They played tight while the Eagles played like they had nothing to lose.

Yeah, I don't get how he has such an awesome year in 22 and then looked...not bad but not like he usually does in 23.

The supporting casts were pretty similar.


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