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Okchief80 02-09-2025 10:17 PM

Fire everyone! Cut Mahomes! Or just simmer down. It was a great run. The eagles havea really good team.

RealSNR 02-09-2025 10:18 PM

Someone said that there are only like 3 elite OL coaches in the NFL in any particular season.

I kind of believe that.

Easy 6 02-09-2025 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 17961065)
This thread sucks

The truth sucks, love hurts

dannybcaitlyn 02-09-2025 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17961389)
Someone said that there are only like 3 elite OL coaches in the NFL in any particular season.

I kind of believe that.

Mike Munchak is interested coaching again.

OKchiefs 02-09-2025 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 17961197)
When you play in the Super Bowl against superior defensive lines, and you have a backup line, you will never survive and that's what happened in 55 against Tampa Bay. We had three starters out. This Super Bowl we had a duct tape offensive line with two mediocre at best tackles. It is about talent and we don't have it at our tackle positions.Nuff said.

Funny how Washington had former Chiefs Wylie and Alegretti on the OL as well as a rookie 3rd rounder at LT and they didn’t look nearly this bad with a rookie QB. Sounds like a BS excuse.

Clearly there are multiple issues here, and yes the talent is one of them. Mahomes is also a mess right now. The OL coaching and offensive coaching as a whole is a mess. The play calls suck. The offense is stale and unimaginative right now. I don’t know what the best answer is right now or what the biggest problem is, but I do know Andy Heck is at least part of the problem.

OKchiefs 02-09-2025 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17961302)
I don’t think it’s entirely fair to be hard on ourselves for not getting everything right given how good we’ve been. The patriots kept their dynasty alive with huge swings every few years (see Randy, welker, etc…) but also rebuild years where they’d stockpile picks. We’ve kept our window open for an incredible amount of time. There is a reason a threepeat is unprecedented.

The remarkable thing about our success is that we’ve never had a true rebuild or reset. Just insane success at the bottom of the draft order

Except we’re not stockpiling picks either, we’re making stupid ****ing trades for guys like Uche who can’t see the field.

dannybcaitlyn 02-09-2025 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 17961436)
Funny how Washington had former Chiefs Wylie and Alegretti on the OL as well as a rookie 3rd rounder at LT and they didn’t look nearly this bad with a rookie QB. Sounds like a BS excuse.

Clearly there are multiple issues here, and yes the talent is one of them. Mahomes is also a mess right now. The OL coaching and offensive coaching as a whole is a mess. The play calls suck. The offense is stale and unimaginative right now. I don’t know what the best answer is right now or what the biggest problem is, but I do know Andy Heck is at least part of the problem.

They also lost Sam cosmi their best oline man in the Detroit game before they faced the Eagles. Teams with far less talent have a better showing

Calcountry 02-09-2025 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 17961197)
When you play in the Super Bowl against superior defensive lines, and you have a backup line, you will never survive and that's what happened in 55 against Tampa Bay. We had three starters out. This Super Bowl we had a duct tape offensive line with two mediocre at best tackles. It is about talent and we don't have it at our tackle positions.Nuff said.

So where is the gameplan to mitigate this obvious weekness? You think maybe, running the ball on first and second down, then a screen on thrid and 5 might have helped? Yep, tell them mfers on the left side to block like nomal and when they beat you get ready to block the second level we throwing screens.

chiefzilla1501 02-09-2025 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 17961452)
Except we’re not stockpiling picks either, we’re making stupid ****ing trades for guys like Uche who can’t see the field.

Yeah we’re not stockpiling picks because teams with Super Bowl windows generally don’t do that. I can’t imagine why.

So instead we trade for guys like uche. But apparently forget that we also picked up Kareem hunt and Deandre Hopkins out of nowhere. And the year prior bringing mecole back. And the year before that bringing in Toney to make a critical punt return. But yeah let’s obsess over uche not working out

GordonGekko 02-09-2025 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17961499)
Yeah we’re not stockpiling picks because teams with Super Bowl windows generally don’t do that. I can’t imagine why.

So instead we trade for guys like uche. But apparently forget that we also picked up Kareem hunt and Deandre Hopkins out of nowhere. And the year prior bringing mecole back. And the year before that bringing in Toney to make a critical punt return. But yeah let’s obsess over uche not working out

Uche trade was a waste, Kingsley and Morris are now wasted picks as well, we need to draft BETTER

OKchiefs 02-09-2025 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17961499)
Yeah we’re not stockpiling picks because teams with Super Bowl windows generally don’t do that. I can’t imagine why.

So instead we trade for guys like uche. But apparently forget that we also picked up Kareem hunt and Deandre Hopkins out of nowhere. And the year prior bringing mecole back. And the year before that bringing in Toney to make a critical punt return. But yeah let’s obsess over uche not working out

It's not just Uche, also Neil Farrell. I just think they've been a bit too cavalier with their late rd picks the past year or two.

Why Not? 02-09-2025 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 17961516)
Uche trade was a waste, Kingsley and Morris are now wasted picks as well, we need to draft BETTER

That’s a little premature. Kingsley and Morris may very well be starters at RT and RG next season. If they suck then, maybe it’s time to jump ship on them. But giving up on two non first round stud type O linemen because they couldn’t thrive on a championship level team at LT seems a bit much.

InChiefsHeaven 02-09-2025 10:53 PM

Guys. We lost a game that has never been won. Ever. There's a reason for that. It's extremely hard to 3 peat. The NFL has DESIGNED it that way. Nobody has done it before.

But you know what else? NO TEAM HAS EVER GOTTEN AS FAR AT THIS TEAM HAS IN THE HISTORY OF THE NFL. We're hurting today, but the future is still bright as a thousand suns. We ain't done yet.

chiefzilla1501 02-09-2025 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 17961516)
Uche trade was a waste, Kingsley and Morris are now wasted picks as well, we need to draft BETTER

We clearly do but it has to come with the context that we’ve drafted exceptionally well at most other positions given our draft position. It’s not like we’re drafting poorly. We’ve drafted exceptionally well. We just haven’t figured it out at one particular position

RealSNR 02-09-2025 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn (Post 17961411)
Mike Munchak is interested coaching again.

What's Mike Solari up to these days?


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