Originally Posted by DJay23 (Post 17456307)

That's a good one, 16/17. Lucas began the first 6 games as starter. Then Doke started the next 6 before he got hurt.

Lagerald Vick was also benched his senior year, but he was replaced by Charlie Moore and it wasn't because the other guy was better, or a to have Vick come off the bench as an energy guy.

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17456310)

Tarik Black also started at center over Embiid for a bit in 13/14.

Black transferred in from Memphis though, so I don’t consider him one is Self’s guys.

Pretty sure Vick left the team that year for reasons unknown.

Originally Posted by DJay23 (Post 17456313)

Vick definitely left. I don't know if we ever found out what that was all about.

I found the article from his benching. Self's reasoning was that Vick had a "rough practice" and that he "hoped it was behind him now." I can't remember what all of the rumors were at the time.

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17456050)

KJ would be fine off the bench in an energy role.

Can’t be a starter. Bidunga and Dickinson.

Get Leipold in KJ’s ear about playing tight end.

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17456551)

I agree with this. Love kj but he just doesn't bring enough offensively to be a starter. Heck, his defense was lackluster yesterday as well

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17456551)

I agree with this. Love kj but he just doesn't bring enough offensively to be a starter. Heck, his defense was lackluster yesterday as well

Originally Posted by Fansy the Famous Bard (Post 17456588)

KJ at times this season was the best player on both ends of the floor. He carried this team at times. That's how bad the offense was.

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17456551)

I agree with this. Love kj but he just doesn't bring enough offensively to be a starter. Heck, his defense was lackluster yesterday as well

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17456597)

I love KJ. He's just not good enough to be a starter on a championship team. Could KU win a championship with him starting, of course. But, he'd be carried up that mountain by the rest of the team.

He has no future in basketball. He should become a TE and play football. Bet he be damn good.

Originally Posted by DJay23 (Post 17456234)

Can anyone think of another example where Self has benched one of "his" guys for an incoming freshman, especially a 2 year starting senior?

I just don't see him sitting KJ. He trusts him and KJ plays his ass off. Self loves those guys. Morningstar, Releford, RussRob, for example.

I get the sentiment of bringing him off the bench, I just can't think of when Self has ever done something like that. As good as Bidunga may be, its hard for a freshman to crack the starting lineup for Self.