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Jewish Rabbi 09-07-2023 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BigOlChiefsfan (Post 17094922)
I kinda miss having a big fullback for those 3rd and 1 runs. Andy is appolgizing for how bad this looked. "It's unusual for the guys who dropped the ball to drop the ball"

So unusual that they dropped everything in preseason too

lcarus 09-07-2023 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17094987)
Give the ball to Mahomes and let him figure out a way to get 1 yard.

Seems so crazy to turn so gimmicky to try and manufacture that yard instead. There's no evidence it's a better strategy.

Every other team either QB sneaks and has 2 big ****ers shove him forward (while it's still legal) or they line up and let their halfback get the yard. And it's nearly impossible to stop. We have a highly paid offensive line and we play like pussies in those situations. "Snow globe" and every dancing and shifting around. Just line up and get a damn yard. Shouldn't be this hard.

KCUnited 09-07-2023 09:59 PM

Imagine being an OC when this gets called

I guess the goods heavily outweigh the your opinion doesn’t mean shit on 3rd/4th and short

jerryaldini 09-07-2023 10:02 PM

I love Andy but I sense hubris with his play calling. Sometimes you just need short yards and it seems he wants it to be some unique play so people can talk about the creativity.

dtrain 09-07-2023 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 17094947)
If you’re gonna put Belldozer under center why not just run the Philly scrum and push him across? Keep it simple. Fancy sure ain’t working.

Put a couple linemen behind him

jerryaldini 09-07-2023 10:03 PM

I still wonder why our vaunted big 3 in the middle can't ever get a push in those situations.

Gary Cooper 09-07-2023 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jerryaldini (Post 17095123)
I love Andy but I sense hubris with his play calling. Sometimes you just need short yards and it seems he wants it to be some unique play so people can talk about the creativity.

If Andy was coaching the Chiefs in the 90's, we'd be running jet sweeps with Danan Hughes instead of handing it off to Marcus Allen on the 1 yard line.

Eleazar 09-07-2023 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 17095085)
Every other team either QB sneaks and has 2 big ****ers shove him forward (while it's still legal) or they line up and let their halfback get the yard. And it's nearly impossible to stop. We have a highly paid offensive line and we play like pussies in those situations. "Snow globe" and every dancing and shifting around. Just line up and get a damn yard. Shouldn't be this hard.

It's not like we need to run that particular play. We could do just fine without ever running a QB for the rest of Mahomes' career.

Just run it. Run a dive play. Run any sort of running play. Run a playaction pass from under center. Run an RPO. Whatever. Why does it need to be a trick play? Just get the yard.

jerryaldini 09-07-2023 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17095140)
If Andy was coaching the Chiefs in the 90's, we'd be running jet sweeps with Danan Hughes instead of handing it off to Marcus Allen on the 1 yard line.

Lol, yeah,and Allen wouldn't have put up with that shit. I bet Pat is pissed as hell about having the ball out of his hands so often tonight. He needs to have a come to Jesus with Andy and Nagy after tonight, and maybe ask Veach about his plans for the receiver room.

BigOlChiefsfan 09-07-2023 10:08 PM

Rather than keep a 7th WR who spends his time dropping short passes and holding his helmet - maybe just keep 6 no-account WR's and add a mediocre fullback to 'get the job done' from time to time. C'mon Andy - you don't get bonus points in heaven for doing without a fullback.

FloridaMan88 09-07-2023 10:10 PM

This shit hasn’t changed from EB to Nagy so we definitely know it’s Andy calling these dumbshit plays… as if there was ever any doubt.

BWillie 09-07-2023 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BigOlChiefsfan (Post 17095172)
Rather than keep a 7th WR who spends his time dropping short passes and holding his helmet - maybe just keep 6 no-account WR's and add a mediocre fullback to 'get the job done' from time to time. C'mon Andy - you don't get bonus points in heaven for doing without a fullback.

Only on Chiefsplanet do we think the answer is a fullback ROFL

Jewish Rabbi 09-07-2023 10:10 PM

Maybe if they’d let future HOF player Justyn Ross play they’d win

lcarus 09-07-2023 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 17095160)
It's not like we need to run that particular play. We could do just fine without ever running a QB for the rest of Mahomes' career.

Just run it. Run a dive play. Run any sort of running play. Run a playaction pass from under center. Run an RPO. Whatever. Why does it need to be a trick play? Just get the yard.

For a while they did exactly that. They had that big oaf at FB. Burton I think. And they ran him up the gut and he moved the chains. Until one time he didn't. Then they just gave up on it altogether.

-King- 09-07-2023 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17095188)
Only on Chiefsplanet do we think the answer is a fullback ROFL

LMAO


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