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Mecca 04-28-2022 11:23 PM

It's blatant he was one of the 16 guys they had a 1st round grade on and saw him fall to striking distance..

royr17 04-28-2022 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16270196)
Was McDuffie worth giving up a 3rd round pick though?

Not sold on it.

Dude was rated the third best cornerback prospect behind stingley and Gardner. Everything I read about him sounds like he's good and was supposed to be a top 15 pick but fell due to the wide receiver run. Was a legit no brain to trade up for him apparently there was a drop off after him.

staylor26 04-28-2022 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16270326)
It's blatant he was one of the 16 guys they had a 1st round grade on and saw him fall to striking distance..

Exactly.

And this move also tells me Johnson wasn’t one of those 16, and they were probably comfortable with him or Karlaftis at 30.

frozenchief 04-29-2022 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by royr17 (Post 16270328)
Dude was rated the third best cornerback prospect behind stingley and Gardner. Everything I read about him sounds like he's good and was supposed to be a top 15 pick but fell due to the wide receiver run. Was a legit no brain to trade up for him apparently there was a drop off after him.

There was a big drop off after him. Beach said they didn’t set a visit with him b/c they didn’t think he’d be available. Also, the draft value of the picks we gave up was 261. The value of the pick we got was 262, so it was pretty much dead even.

So far, this is a great draft.

Fish 04-29-2022 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by frozenchief (Post 16270371)
There was a big drop off after him. Beach said they didn’t set a visit with him b/c they didn’t think he’d be available. Also, the draft value of the picks we gave up was 261. The value of the pick we got was 262, so it was pretty much dead even.

So far, this is a great draft.

Bless Vrett Beach.

Rasputin 04-29-2022 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 16270211)
Would me gouging my eyes out so I never have to read one of your posts again be worth it?

Can you gouge out In58men eyes out instead? I'd be in favor of that.

Simply Red 04-29-2022 12:26 AM

I don't like his height, I think that's underrated in a db, but doesn't seem to bother people who know way more about fb than me, so... but yeah, I will feel much better after tomorrow. Kid will be good - I don't know much about either of our picks. You guys seem to be mostly happy, so rock-on.

Rasputin 04-29-2022 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 16270388)
I don't like his height, I think that's underrated in a db, but doesn't seem to bother people who know way more about fb than me, so... but yeah, I will feel much better after tomorrow. Kid will be good - I don't know much about either of our picks. You guys seem to be mostly happy, so rock-on.


Google
The average NFL cornerback is 5-foot-11, 193.4 pounds. The average wide receiver: 6-foot-1. .



Trent McDuffie HEIGHT 5'11" WEIGHT 193lbs

Bump 04-29-2022 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Rasputin (Post 16270393)
Google
The average NFL cornerback is 5-foot-11, 193.4 pounds. The average wide receiver: 6-foot-1. In the 2001 draft, four men over 6-1 entered the league as cornerbacks, and only one stayed a corner.



Trent McDuffie HEIGHT 5'11" WEIGHT 193lbs

ya I was gonna say, you usually hear about a CB that's over 6 ft. The announcers will be like "damn he's 6'1" that's really tall for a CB" or some shit like that. Seems pretty average height for a CB to me :shrug:

kcbubb 04-29-2022 12:42 AM

McDuffie will be great. He’s smart and won’t make many rookie mistakes. Solid starter with both picks. Chiefs went for high floor guys that will start. We needed instant starters and got two with our first two picks. It’s not as sexy as what I was hoping for but I’m happy.

Simply Red 04-29-2022 12:49 AM

not going to pout about it - after all they're players for my favorite football team. Let's do go get Pickens tomorrow though, please.

DTVietnam 04-29-2022 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP (Post 16270281)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> make a big move for a top CB (and my model&#39;s #8 overall prospect) in Trent McDuffie, who allowed 3.1 yards/target in 2021 at Washington (best in FBS, min. 30 targets).<br><br>Could be a key piece to counter the wealth of receiving talent in the AFC come playoff time!</p>&mdash; cynthia frelund (@cfrelund) <a href="https://twitter.com/cfrelund/status/1519867486472007681?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

so now the Chiefs are being reactionary?

I liked it better when we controlled the narrative and teams were trying to catch us. .

DTVietnam 04-29-2022 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Rasputin (Post 16270393)
Google
The average NFL cornerback is 5-foot-11, 193.4 pounds. The average wide receiver: 6-foot-1. .



Trent McDuffie HEIGHT 5'11" WEIGHT 193lbs

did you look at arm lengths...or do u think CB play defense with their foreheads?

Shoes 04-29-2022 01:48 AM

I think we as Chiefs fans are a little spoiled too when it comes to how Veach has hit on so many players in the secondary without spending premium assets lately (Sneed, Ward, Fenton etc). In reality that just isn’t viable season after season, cornerback was a weakness and Veach addressed it with a guy they think highly of.

Also we don’t really know how the Chiefs front office views this draft in regards to talent in the 2nd-4th rounds when comparing DB to WR for example. Could potentially have a few guys left on their board at the WR position that they feel like are going to be available and still be huge contributors. Don’t have to go very far in history to see some big name WR’s taken in the 2nd round or later (Metcalfe, Kupp, Mclaren, AJ Brown).

Don’t really have a reason to distrust Veach, evaluate the draft with a bit more critical eye after rounds 2-4.

royr17 04-29-2022 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Shoes (Post 16270421)
I think we as Chiefs fans are a little spoiled too when it comes to how Veach has hit on so many players in the secondary without spending premium assets lately (Sneed, Ward, Fenton etc). In reality that just isn’t viable season after season, cornerback was a weakness and Veach addressed it with a guy they think highly of.

Also we don’t really know how the Chiefs front office views this draft in regards to talent in the 2nd-4th rounds when comparing DB to WR for example. Could potentially have a few guys left on their board at the WR position that they feel like are going to be available and still be huge contributors. Don’t have to go very far in history to see some big name WR’s taken in the 2nd round or later (Metcalfe, Kupp, Mclaren, AJ Brown).

Don’t really have a reason to distrust Veach, evaluate the draft with a bit more critical eye after rounds 2-4.

Also need to draft a replacement for Fenton who will more likely be gone after this season cuz he's on the last year his deal. With our draft history in the late rounds hopefully we can find another late round bloomer.


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