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displacedinMN 09-20-2021 06:44 AM

Defense? What Defense.

YayMike 09-20-2021 06:50 AM

Great as always George. I think the Chris Jones experiment is over as DE. Also, time for DW or even JM to get carries. As I said last week, CEH looks bad. Like… bad. Even before the fumble, the OL was opening up holes, we needed more from the run game.

Sucks to lose but better now to them then when we see them in January, gets the “can’t beat the chiefs” monkey off the back. But the game wasn’t this close…and for those that say the best 2 running teams already played us.
True, but Oakland was literally assembled to beat us, they’ll be tough. So will Sandy Eggo this week: need to see changes

tmax63 09-20-2021 06:59 AM

CEH picked a bad time for his first fumble in the NFL. 1:20 to go on the clock. Reid was doing the right thing, run the ball 3 times, make Baltimore burn their last timeout, and let Butker kick a 40-45 yard FG with about 10 seconds left in the game. Can't fault the plan.

LiveSteam 09-20-2021 07:04 AM

250 carries without a fumble.
I'll take that and move on to the Super Chargers

alpha_omega 09-20-2021 07:56 AM

Love the new format g. Don’t think I coulda handled 10 this week.

PHOG 09-20-2021 08:15 AM

Thanks again for the write up. Tough loss last night, but it's only the 2nd game of the season. Lots of things to work on this week before the bolts game. :thumb:

YayMike 09-20-2021 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by tmax63 (Post 15844979)
CEH picked a bad time for his first fumble in the NFL. 1:20 to go on the clock. Reid was doing the right thing, run the ball 3 times, make Baltimore burn their last timeout, and let Butker kick a 40-45 yard FG with about 10 seconds left in the game. Can't fault the plan.

Absolutely. Nothing wrong with the plan for the final drive. Fumbles happen. That is the least of my gripes for last night.

gblowfish 09-20-2021 08:50 AM

The Donks and Faid are going to be at the top of the division for the rest of September. Denver has an easy schedule. They open with wins against two bottom feeder teams -the Giants and Jags- and next week they play the Jets, who suck out loud. Vegas won an OT game against the Ravens in their home opener that they could have easily lost, and beat a geriatric Big Ben and no TJ Watt yesterday. Next week they get Miami who just lost their starting QB and got smoked by Buffalo. Denver's schedule gets a lot tougher in the second half of the season, and the Faid are playing better so far this year and are the favored contender to KC in the AFC West. Very important that we win Sunday and start making hay in the division.

Bearcat 09-20-2021 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by YayMike (Post 15845152)
Absolutely. Nothing wrong with the plan for the final drive. Fumbles happen. That is the least of my gripes for last night.

Yeah, I would say it was at worst a wasted play call... CEH would at best get a few yards and the first down and at worst (besides fumble, obviously) lose a couple yards... either of which you could get with RPO or any number of ways to get Mahomes out in space and allow him to make a play.

I don't think it has anything to do with trust, that's a pretty severe overreaction, IMO... running the ball on 2nd and 3 is well within their normal offense. There are far better and more effective options and it's absolutely never wrong to keep letting Mahomes make plays... but, running the ball to try picking up the first while running some clock isn't nearly the same level of concern as the fumble itself, wasting possessions earlier in the half, the defense, the dumb interception, etc.

YayMike 09-20-2021 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 15845220)
Yeah, I would say it was at worst a wasted play call... CEH would at best get a few yards and the first down and at worst (besides fumble, obviously) lose a couple yards... either of which you could get with RPO or any number of ways to get Mahomes out in space and allow him to make a play.

I don't think it has anything to do with trust, that's a pretty severe overreaction, IMO... running the ball on 2nd and 3 is well within their normal offense. There are far better and more effective options and it's absolutely never wrong to keep letting Mahomes make plays... but, running the ball to try picking up the first while running some clock isn't nearly the same level of concern as the fumble itself, wasting possessions earlier in the half, the defense, the dumb interception, etc.

Exactly. It’s hard to want to criticize the best qb we’ve ever had, maybe the game has ever seen, but he’s made some dumb plays like that thinking he can do anything. He needs to take that sack, just go down.

I don’t understand the offensive game plan on quite a few drives. The ravens were majorly banged up and we just didn’t take advantage . Need to regroup for Chargers. But … two weeks in, offensive line looks good, but the offense itself…needs tweaking.

Funny thing is, all the bitching I’m doing, and everyone else is doing, and we were still one fumble away from winning. This team is so good that even when it plays like shit, like yesterday, they’re going to win most games, the problem is we need to see consistency. And we need to see this team blow teams out like they are capable of and should most weeks.

jettio 09-20-2021 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by YayMike (Post 15844960)
Great as always George. I think the Chris Jones experiment is over as DE. Also, time for DW or even JM to get carries. As I said last week, CEH looks bad. Like… bad. Even before the fumble, the OL was opening up holes, we needed more from the run game.

Sucks to lose but better now to them then when we see them in January, gets the “can’t beat the chiefs” monkey off the back. But the game wasn’t this close…and for those that say the best 2 running teams already played us.
True, but Oakland was literally assembled to beat us, they’ll be tough. So will Sandy Eggo this week: need to see changes

Chris Jones is going to keep lining up on outside. Ravens have a unique offense. Chiefs are not going to drastically change assignments for players based on one game against a team that runs such a unique offense.

Monticore 09-20-2021 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Rasputin (Post 15844708)
I maybe minority but I say feed Clyde the ball he carried the Ravens defense on his back for a first down. Lets not give up on him he doesn't fumble all that often it was just a costly fumble that sucked but we need him to be a force so we can get him going behind this offensive line.

Not sure why we don't pass him the ball more he seems more suited to working in space .

YayMike 09-20-2021 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jettio (Post 15845373)
Chris Jones is going to keep lining up on outside. Ravens have a unique offense. Chiefs are not going to drastically change assignments for players based on one game against a team that runs such a unique offense.

Point taken, But…he was playing against backups and scrubs and got 0 pressures even on straight drop backs. He was owned by the RPOs, which most guys do their first few times. The concern is the regular runs and drop backs, he was invisible.

TEX 09-20-2021 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 15845205)
The Donks and Faid are going to be at the top of the division for the rest of September. Denver has an easy schedule. They open with wins against two bottom feeder teams -the Giants and Jags- and next week they play the Jets, who suck out loud. Vegas won an OT game against the Ravens in their home opener that they could have easily lost, and beat a geriatric Big Ben and no TJ Watt yesterday. Next week they get Miami who just lost their starting QB and got smoked by Buffalo. Denver's schedule gets a lot tougher in the second half of the season, and the Faid are playing better so far this year and are the favored contender to KC in the AFC West. Very important that we win Sunday and start making hay in the division.

They won't beat the Chargers if the defense plays as poorly as it did last night.

YayMike 09-20-2021 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 15845706)
They won't beat the Chargers if the defense plays as poorly as it did last night.

They also won’t beat the chargers if we can’t play more consistent on offense . There is definite room for improvement on both sides of the ball… the Chargers D is good…


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