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staylor26 04-29-2021 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15652609)
I think the fact that Humphrey and Dickerson both are still available bodes well for Meinerz to be there. If we could come away with him and say Jabril Cox or Elijah Molden, that's a very strong draft.

Agreed.

The Franchise 04-29-2021 10:47 PM

All I know is that there should be some good players still left at both of our picks.

ForeverIowan 04-29-2021 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15652609)
I think the fact that Humphrey and Dickerson both are still available bodes well for Meinerz to be there. If we could come away with him and say Jabril Cox or Elijah Molden, that's a very strong draft.

Would you take Meinerz over Dickerson? Not saying either answer is right or wrong. Just interesting you'd rather gamble on a possible unknown of a DIII player (although he looks like a monster) over the Remington award winner in Dickerson (with the checkered medical history). Agreed Humphrey would be ideal but likely gone early in the 2nd.

The Franchise 04-29-2021 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 15652617)
Would you take Meinerz over Dickerson? Not saying either answer is right or wrong. Just interesting you'd rather gamble on a possible unknown of a DIII player (although he looks like a monster) over the Remington award winner in Dickerson (with the checkered medical history).

Yes. Yes I would.

RunKC 04-29-2021 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15652594)
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that, after what happened at the end of the night tonight with the edge rushers, I don't think we'll be taking a DE. I'm not sure the quality will be there now with Turner and Tryon going that high. If there's a mini-run early tomorrow night, a lot of the names that are left will be gone quickly.

I gotta think we're looking hard at IOL, WR, CB, and LB at this point.

I think you’re going to see a big run on OL tomorrow. Eichenberg, Cosmi, Dickerson, Mayfield, Humphrey, Little and probably Radunz all before we pick. There’s a ton of value there.

A ton of value at Corner too that will come off the board

AussieChiefsFan 04-29-2021 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15652612)
The Chiefs aren't just a contender, they're the favorite to win it all. There's no reason to take that kind of gamble. The upside isn't great enough because the team is already so good and the downside is literally not getting a damn thing out of a 2nd round pick.

I get that everybody gets all nostalgic thinking back to 2003 but that's a fantasy. We have a real QB now. We already traded picks for a LT and signed the best LG in the game. This team has other needs that need to be addressed. If the BPA is IOL, so be it but Dickerson will never be BPA because of the injuries.

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 15652617)
Would you take Meinerz over Dickerson? Not saying either answer is right or wrong. Just interesting you'd rather gamble on a possible unknown of a DIII player (although he looks like a monster) over the Remington award winner in Dickerson (with the checkered medical history).

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15652618)
Yes. Yes I would.

So what are our top 3 preferred OL and WR?

staylor26 04-29-2021 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15652616)
All I know is that there should be some good players still left at both of our picks.

Absolutely.

We’re golden.

And our 1st round pick is Orlando ****ing Brown.

staylor26 04-29-2021 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15652619)
I think you’re going to see a big run on OL tomorrow. Eichenberg, Cosmi, Dickerson, Mayfield, Humphrey, Little and probably Radunz all before we pick. There’s a ton of value there.

A ton of value at Corner too that will come off the board

Veach has consistently listed OL and CB as positions with great depth in this draft.

We’ll probably take 1 of each barring an edge rusher falling to us.

Mecca 04-29-2021 10:52 PM

I actually think Freirmuth would be a nice pick.

htismaqe 04-29-2021 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15652616)
All I know is that there should be some good players still left at both of our picks.

Hell yeah there will be. I think we already knew that, it was just a question of which positions it would be.

Two things I didn't expect tonight:

1. The lack of offensive tackles getting picked. I thought for sure Jenkins would go in the 1st round. Obviously still ecstatic we got Brown but if the Chiefs did like some of these OT's, they could have gotten one without trading up most likely. It also means that one of them might be available at the end of the 2nd and while that would have been awesome before the Brown trade, I'm of the mind that I'd rather have another position now even if one of those guys falls.

2. The quick run on edge rushers at the end of the round. That really thins the talent pool for the Chiefs. Of the guys left, I really only like Basham and Perkins. Ojulari really isn't a scheme fit and I'm afraid that the lack of depth pushes a guy like Elerson Smith up to where it's just too high to take him.

The Franchise 04-29-2021 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15652625)
I actually think Freirmuth would be a nice pick.

JOK and Tremble and I’ll never lose my erection.

Mecca 04-29-2021 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15652627)
Hell yeah there will be. I think we already knew that, it was just a question of which positions it would be.

Two things I didn't expect tonight:

1. The lack of offensive tackles getting picked. I thought for sure Jenkins would go in the 1st round. Obviously still ecstatic we got Brown but if the Chiefs did like some of these OT's, they could have gotten one without trading up most likely. It also means that one of them might be available at the end of the 2nd and while that would have been awesome before the Brown trade, I'm of the mind that I'd rather have another position now even if one of those guys falls.

2. The quick run on edge rushers at the end of the round. That really thins the talent pool for the Chiefs. Of the guys left, I really only like Basham and Perkins. Ojulari really isn't a scheme fit and I'm afraid that the lack of depth pushes a guy like Elerson Smith up to where it's just too high to take him.

I guess Chris Simms saying alot of these guys would end up as starting guards had some merit.

htismaqe 04-29-2021 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 15652617)
Would you take Meinerz over Dickerson? Not saying either answer is right or wrong. Just interesting you'd rather gamble on a possible unknown of a DIII player (although he looks like a monster) over the Remington award winner in Dickerson (with the checkered medical history). Agreed Humphrey would be ideal but likely gone early in the 2nd.

Absolutely I would. There's no expectation of them playing this year with Blythe already being in house.

Meinerz' upside at both center and guard is tremendous.

And for me, the injury history is just a non-starter. I know there's people that don't agree but Landon Dickerson wouldn't even be on my board. I'm not taking a guy that's had that many problems especially when he's an IOL and it's his legs.

RunKC 04-29-2021 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15652624)
Veach has consistently listed OL and CB as positions with great depth in this draft.

We’ll probably take 1 of each barring an edge rusher falling to us.

Yeah there will be some guys there for us. Just saying I think a big run is coming at those positions bc of the value.

Everyone knows this OL and corner class is deep

htismaqe 04-29-2021 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15652630)
I guess Chris Simms saying alot of these guys would end up as starting guards had some merit.

Yep. And apparently the Chiefs saw it that way as well.

I'm really glad because I think they ended up making the right decision.


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