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Broncos, Raiders, Chargers. Better than we thought they were? (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=326533)

ToxSocks

11-07-2019 05:30 PM

Prior to this Packers game, sorry-ass Melvin Gordon was on the mic talking about "Nobody cares about us anyway" (a reference for their complete lack of fan support).

This team was in the dumps (Have i expressed that enough?) and i just dont think the Packers took them seriously enough.

And Melvin Gordon LMAO LMAO LMAO

I'm not sure there's a bigger idiot in the league right now. He's not a bad guy...but his history in this league tells me he's not very bright.

It took him 3 seasons to learn the playbook. He had one very average season, then he holds out wanting to get paid like a top 2 back (even though he needed at least one more season accrued to become a F/A, so he was ALWAYS going to play) then he comes back and has, so far, had one of his worst seasons as a pro.

He told the Chargers to take their 11-12M Per year and shove it up their ass and now he's likely looking at a 1-yr prove it deal this offseason.

Megatron96

11-07-2019 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14580189)

I thought the Chargers were a winning team until about week 2, then i figured they were a 7 win team. The win vs the Packers doesn't change that.

There's no comparing rosters, or schemes or any of that. To me it's pretty damn simple: The Chargers were desperate and played desperate, the Packers just rolled into town after a big primetime win thinking all they had to do was show up and they looked flat and out of rhythm. It happens.

If that were a best of 7 series, the Packers take it in 5.

Again, the Chargers were 1-week removed from absolute catastrophe. They barely hung on to beat a bad Bears team and the fans i know, to them it felt like a loss. Hell, prior to the trade deadline fans wondered if Rivers would get moved.

The team, fans and organization were in disarray even after the Bears win, because for the most part, even the lowly Bears outplayed them.

They had just gotten curb stomped and humiliated a week prior to the Steelers.

They just fired their freakin' OC mid season.

That team was on the ropes. And i didn't see anything in that Packers game that changed my mind about them.

It's an anomaly until proven otherwise.

Still kind of smacks a little of 'they got lucky' but at least a logic-based answer (including your part II post). Thanks for playing.:thumb:

Chief Northman

11-07-2019 05:34 PM

Raiders are on the right track and improving. They need another draft and a couple free agent signings to be knocking on the playoff door.

Chargers are worse than last year, but may be trending up with Whisenhunt getting shown the door.

Broncos are also-rans until they improve the depth at every offensive position.

ToxSocks

11-07-2019 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 14580210)

Still kind of smacks a little of 'they got lucky'

Not lucky, just un-inspired play by the Packers. There were no Rodgers-esque throws into the end zone like there was against us.

I see that game as more of, "What did the Packers do to lose" rather than "What did the Chargers do to win".

Megatron96

11-07-2019 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14580216)

So you're saying the Pack had a mental let-down after beating us? That might have a basis in reality. Every team this year has been treating their game against us as if it were their Super Bowl. Maybe the Packers invested so much into defeating the Chiefs that they were a little washed out going into LA.

I originally felt that the answer was probably in the numbers, the stats. But maybe it's really more in the 'invisible' factors.

Does that mean the Ravens are likely to have a similar let-down in their next game?

JohnnyHammersticks

11-07-2019 05:51 PM

Negatory batman

King_Chief_Fan

11-07-2019 05:58 PM

Denver is the same old suck fest and will continue several more years...the bottom feeders for sure.

Chargers are 2nd best team in AFCW with the Raiders 3rd.

ThyKingdomCome15

11-07-2019 06:01 PM

Chargers have underperformed. Raiders are playing a little better than I thought. Denver is underperforming mightily.

chiefforlife

11-07-2019 06:33 PM

****ing Jets beat the cowboys. Yeah, shit happens.

Easy 6

11-07-2019 06:41 PM

I don’t really think so, but do feel Oakland is actually making progress in spite of the extremely rocky start

Chargers not so much, they beat the Packers so what... they win a couple games like that every single season, then invariably melt down in spectacular fashion

Buehler445

11-07-2019 06:46 PM

May they all burn.

In fact the wins might be beneficial after we destroy these fools to keep their draft picks higher.

**** them. Die.

Megatron96

11-07-2019 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 14580342)

Generally speaking, I agree.

The Raiders are going to be a good team sooner rather than later. I won't be surprised at all if they get to 8-8 this year, which would be a real progression by any standard over last year. Next year I won't be surprised if they get to 10-6. Gruden is shepherding that team in the right direction and they have some good young talent on that team. They just need more depth, another real WR, and some pass rushers. At that point I think what will hold them back is Carr. He either takes the next step or he doesn't He's been in the league long enough that I think he doesn't. But I could be wrong about that.

The Chargers are on the brink of real regression as Rivers' abilities decline. As that happens a lot of good young talent may wither as he drags that out. And they have a lot of talent or they couldn't have beaten the Packers.

Frazod

11-07-2019 06:55 PM

The only reason we've lost to anybody is because of that horrific spate of key injuries. At full strength, none of them can touch us. **** 'em.

Chiefshrink

11-07-2019 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14580208)

Prior to this Packers game, sorry-ass Melvin Gordon was on the mic talking about "Nobody cares about us anyway" (a reference for their complete lack of fan support).

This team was in the dumps (Have i expressed that enough?) and i just dont think the Packers took them seriously enough.

And Melvin Gordon LMAO LMAO LMAO

I'm not sure there's a bigger idiot in the league right now. He's not a bad guy...but his history in this league tells me he's not very bright.

It took him 3 seasons to learn the playbook. He had one very average season, then he holds out wanting to get paid like a top 2 back (even though he needed at least one more season accrued to become a F/A, so he was ALWAYS going to play) then he comes back and has, so far, had one of his worst seasons as a pro.

He told the Chargers to take their 11-12M Per year and shove it up their ass and now he's likely looking at a 1-yr prove it deal this offseason.

This !!! And especially the bolded. Had a friend who lives out in SD and he said the Packers were partying like it was 1999 the night before the game FWIW.

JakeF

11-07-2019 07:23 PM

Gruden deserves credit. I expected him to implode and the Raiders have improved. Maybe Khalil Mack was bad for team chemistry. Getting rid of Brown seems to help them too.

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