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Why Not? 09-11-2015 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 11717540)
I'm not throwing stones, I legitimately want to know because I respect your opinion, but where are you at on injuries?

Jamaal Charles, Justin Houston, a myriad of other dudes missing serious time changes the equation significantly. Worst case scenario, Charles goes down, misses 8 games, and the narrative is that Alex didn't have his best weapon. Where does your evaluation of him stand then?

I'm not speaking for DJ'sLN here, but my opinion would be that the narrative on Alex wouldn't change at all. Sure, the win total would, but not his ability to win or lose more games. Since, as far as I know, there's not a stat like WAR for football, let's say Jamaal is worth 4 wins(the Chiefs will win 4 games with him that they lose with Davis or West as the bell cow). So if we're using 11 wins as our base, let's say with JC out(please no, not again), the Chiefs are a 7 win team. I think the point he is making is that Alex will go out and win you those 7 games. He won't win 10, he won't win 5. He'll keep the needle right in the middle.

O.city 09-11-2015 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11717556)
If the winning isn't sustainable, then it's the wrong way to win. 2013 was a great example of that. The defense put up an all-world performance and then stopped doing it. Alex Smith then became a different QB.

The question I keep asking is, why does Alex wait or his defense to suck to step up as a QB? If we're treating this as a "put up or shut up" year for Alex, I don't consider it success if we're winning too many games the wrong way. That is, games where we shit the bed on third downs and in a close game, our offense keeps going 3 and out in the 4th quarter and relies on our defense to make stop after stop. Even if we win games that way, that doesn't make me at all confident that Smith is the right QB.

I dont really care much about winning pretty, but the offense has to be better.

jonzie04 09-11-2015 04:21 PM

I'm guessing 4000, 27, 14 for Alex this season.

He basically went for 3500 the past two seasons if you add in his per game average and account for the 2 games he missed. Thats around 30 more yards per game. I think Maclin, Dat, and Wilson will go a long ways in getting him that simply through YAC. I think Alex is a little more aggressive this year and it leads to a little more touchdowns, but a lot more picks.

BossChief 09-11-2015 04:32 PM

Counting rushing yards, I see him having a 3800-4000 yard season....7.6ypa...68%comp...29tds (combined rushing and passing)...9ints

BigMeatballDave 09-11-2015 04:34 PM

10,000/60/0

Suck it, haters! :D

BigMeatballDave 09-11-2015 04:35 PM

Seriously: 3800/25/8

Mav 09-11-2015 04:43 PM

Mellinger: Alex Smith is out of excuses, and he needs to deliver his best season
 
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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 11717473)
Not sure, though I found this:



http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl...le3450988.html







Tough to say what was "botched," but that definitely seems odd to be out for an entire season due to a shoulder injury.


What makes it botched is Alex was legit hurt. Mike Nolan called him out for not being tough so Alex went back out destroyed his shoulder and missed all of 2008 because mile Nolan is a walking dick wad.

Admittedly I left out the wire in his shoulder. Whoops.

BossChief 09-11-2015 04:43 PM

Also, it's quite nice hearing an extraordinary writer bringing up points that I've been harping about since we signed Maclin.

It's all about trust with Alex.

For him to target you, you need to

1) be trusted to know your job/ where to line up
2) be trusted to run routes effective enough to gain separation
3) be trusted enough to be on the same page with him on route adjustments
4) be trusted enough to make the catch consistently and make the play
5) be trusted that you're not going to hang Alex out to dry after he gets you the ball.

Seriously, it's all about trust for the guy.

That's why Albert Wilson, Jason Avant and Deanthony Thomas had no problem getting targets during the last month of the season. Alex trusted them.

I wish the search function worked so I could look for the thread I was going on about trusting his receivers, there was some gold in that thread/those threads...it seems Sam read them and has agreed with them and has done an amazing job expanding on those thoughts and hit it out of the park with this article.

Chiefs4TheWin 09-11-2015 04:50 PM

Alex Smith is not the greatest QB to walk the earth that's for sure, but I never heard him make an excuse for himself ever. I will give him that.

Sandy Vagina 09-11-2015 05:09 PM

This is as far as I needed to read.

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If Smith does not have the best year of his career, and Jeremy Maclin has not suffered an injury and the offensive line is better than a year ago, then something has gone wrong with Smith.
Yep.

RobBlake 09-11-2015 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs4TheWin (Post 11717596)
Alex Smith is not the greatest QB to walk the earth that's for sure, but I never heard him make an excuse for himself ever. I will give him that.

he played for a franchise that once belittled him, his own coach called him a pussy in front of his peers, messed up his throwing arm, etc and still decided to re-sign with them because he wanted to win. The guy doesn't make excuses.

mdchiefsfan 09-11-2015 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 11717461)
Good article. Mellinger has been putting out some decent pieces lately.

Although, it is pretty obvious he reads the planet ROFL

Exactly what I was thinking: I've read this somewhere before. :hmmm:

temper11 09-11-2015 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RobBlake (Post 11717618)
he played for a franchise that once belittled him, his own coach called him a pussy in front of his peers, messed up his throwing arm, etc and still decided to re-sign with them because he wanted to win. The guy doesn't make excuses.

This. One of the main reason why I continue to follow his career - I want to see him rewarded for being class.

temper11 09-11-2015 05:23 PM

Good luck all this weekend. I hope you are all here celebrating a Chiefs win on Monday.

mdchiefsfan 09-11-2015 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave (Post 11717581)
Seriously: 3800/25/8


I'm thinking around 3,500 yards; I agree with 25/8.


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