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Miles 07-31-2014 07:16 PM

Losing Craig stings a bit from what he has done in the past but can't help thinking he might be damaged goods like Freese. Lackey has been pretty solid since TJ surgery and that $500k team option could play out well. Also has a reputation for being a dick but from what I recall much of that was from his time in Boston when he was pitching poorly with a bad elbow.

Mi_chief_fan 07-31-2014 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Miles (Post 10787293)
Losing Craig stings a bit from what he has done in the past but can't help thinking he might be damaged goods like Freese. Lackey has been pretty solid since TJ surgery and that $500k team option could play out well. Also has a reputation for being a dick but from what I recall much of that was from his time in Boston when he was pitching poorly with a bad elbow.

This team was missing some attitude. Just got a triple dose of it. Glad Mo finally kicked a little ass.

Marcellus 07-31-2014 07:36 PM

Mo pretty much just kicked them all in the junk and said wake the **** up.

BigRedChief 07-31-2014 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 10786546)
Wifes are best friends too. Saw a piece on Fox sports Midwest about how close they are.

The clubhouse is just going to have to move on. They have done nothing to warrant a don't touch anyone, we are rolling along great approach.

You have to give it up for Miller. It was his best game in a long time. He made a couple of bad pitches that went year but got it back together. He was moving the ball well all around the zone.:thumb:

Marcellus 07-31-2014 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 10787602)
You have to give it up for Miller. It was his best game in a long time. He made a couple of bad pitches that went year but got it back together. He was moving the ball well all around the zone.:thumb:

I will give him that for sure.

BigRedChief 07-31-2014 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 10787337)
Mo pretty much just kicked them all in the junk and said wake the **** up.

Yep, this team needed to be kicked in the ass. They need to respond like Miller did today. Best buddy gets traded, go out and pitch your best game maybe all year.

Some of Matheny's comments and reactions in the dugout to OT's homer concerns me a little. But they lost a teamate, I'll reserve judgement until they get over the shock and take some inner stock of themselfs. Surely they realize they were heading no where playing like they were. Maybe they will go out and play a hard 9 now.

Pepe Silvia 08-02-2014 06:42 PM

We need this win in the worst way with Pittsburgh getting lucky as frick again. I thought they were a one year wonder but the bastards bounced back.

'Hamas' Jenkins 08-02-2014 06:57 PM

I tune in and of course, they have second and third with no outs and can't bring either one home.

BigRedChief 08-02-2014 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 10790772)
We need this win in the worst way with Pittsburgh getting lucky as frick again. I thought they were a one year wonder but the bastards bounced back.

Offense showed up tonight. This Brewers team doesn't look they are ready to fade at all. Pitt is coming on. STL is the team that seems to be lacking the fire. We win tomorrow we are only a game off the lead but it does seem that we are so damn inconsistent that we are playing worse than we really are.

Pepe Silvia 08-03-2014 05:45 PM

Very solid start by Lackey. Fortunate to pull that one out but he kept us in the game. This offense is concerning.

'Hamas' Jenkins 08-03-2014 05:55 PM

Given that Rosenthal is giving up an astronomical 26% LD rate, the fact that only 2.5% of his flyballs are homers is ridiculously ****ing lucky.

BigRedChief 08-03-2014 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10792594)
Given that Rosenthal is giving up an astronomical 26% LD rate, the fact that only 2.5% of his flyballs are homers is ridiculously ****ing lucky.

I have no clue on the level of where you are at with baseball stats but it seems to me that some stats are misleading.

Rosenthal will miss location sometimes. But his fastball has a lot of movement on it so hitters don't square it up and hit a home run.

WAR stats have so many higher value than the actual worth and vice versa with over inflated WAR.

Sinkerball pitchers with a better defense will obviously have better stats but he will not be a better pitcher than one with a sub par defense.

BigRedChief 08-03-2014 08:37 PM

I know I've vented about this many times but sending Delcaso up there to pinch hit is asine. So ****ing what he is a lefty and its a RH pitching. Especially with runners in scoring position.

It's not that he is just not producing, its that he looks lost at the plate. Swings way late. He has no business on this team. At least let Robinson or Ellis take some pinch hits.

'Hamas' Jenkins 08-03-2014 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 10792958)
I know I've vented about this many times but sending Delcaso up there to pinch hit is asine. So ****ing what he is a lefty and its a RH pitching. Especially with runners in scoring position.

It's not that he is just not producing, its that he looks lost at the plate. Swings way late. He has no business on this team. At least let Robinson or Ellis take some pinch hits.

You could make an argument that he's the worst position player in MLB. Our complete dearth of a bench bat is a sucking chest wound in this roster construction.

BigRedChief 08-04-2014 10:45 AM

I guess all the lame ass grow the **** up pouting Cardinals aren't in St. Louis
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