Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10470687)

Everybody is offering the overall value of last year's draft as an excuse for drafting Fisher when he showed on the field he wasn't BPA and didn't fill a position of need.

So is it too early or not?

Got some flawed logic going on up in here.

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10470730)

He is most certainly filling a position of need now. Which Dorsey may have foreseen.

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10470730)

No way to know who the best player in a draft was by their rookie season.

Seems people only use this common knowledge when it doesn't apply to our picks.

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10470730)

That's flawed logic, IMO. Fisher may well turn out to be one of the top 5 players from that class, and is filling a huge position of need for us.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10470711)

The article talks specifically, as do several people in this thread, about Dorsey's school of thought on the draft.

The article contends that he uses a BPA scheme, weighted by position of need.

Fisher doesn't fit either of those. His play on the field bears out that he wasn't the BPA, and the fact that he couldn't even secure a starting spot full time says he didn't fill a position of need.

It was a panic pick because the draft sucked, nothing more, nothing less. Dorsey isn't infallible, and his "draft strategy" isn't revolutionary.

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10470753)

I don't how you can ignore the fact that Dorsey may have known he wasn't going to sign Albert, or be able to afford to.
Also taking into account that he Fisher may have had a learning curve coming from a small school so may have not been able fill that void until after Albert was gone.
Seems to me like he's looking further than just the end of his nose.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10470745)

Really? Is that why the impending vacancy at left tackle is, according to the Chiefs, going to be filled by someone other than Eric Fisher?

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10470745)

Of course. If you don't like the Fisher pick, you're just a hater that doesn't like anything the Chiefs do. :roll eyes:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10470745)

If he's a right tackle, it's a terrible pick. Plain and simple.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10470760)

ERIC FISHER ISN'T REPLACING ALBERT.

Dorsey, out of his own mouth, said Eric Fisher is a RIGHT TACKLE.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10470760)

ERIC FISHER ISN'T REPLACING ALBERT.

Dorsey, out of his own mouth, said Eric Fisher is a RIGHT TACKLE.

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10470788)

Can't believe people would just write fisher off as an average RT after an injury riddled rookie season after coming from Central Michigan.

He will no doubt get a shot to win the LT job in camp, and if he can't win it in his second season, after an off season in the strength program, it was a shitty pick.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10470778)

Look, I'm not down on Dorsey. I think he's shown a lot of promise already. Obviously, he's new to the role and needs to grow.

I just think all of this talk about him somehow being "special" (there was a reference to Sabermetrics in another thread) is silly.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10470793)

I haven't written off Fisher at all.

I never wrote off Tyson Jackson. In fact, I'm one of the few here that think, given the right financial terms, we should re-sign him.

It doesn't make taking him at #3 any better of a draft pick.

After all, Fisher is just a piece of evidence. This discussion isn't about Fisher, it's about Dorsey.

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10470799)

I don't see how he has proven a damn thing thus far. Too early to tell.
He did well in FAs, but also made some shitty signings like Dunce-a.

Until we see what Fisher, Kelce, Nico, and Cummings actually are, we won't know anything about this past draft either.

All I'm saying is that it's impossible to tell at this juncture.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10470745)

Really? Is that why the impending vacancy at left tackle is, according to the Chiefs, going to be filled by someone other than Eric Fisher?



Of course. If you don't like the Fisher pick, you're just a hater that doesn't like anything the Chiefs do. :roll eyes:

Dorsey was pure ****ing GOLD in free agency last year. A good portion of the draft was very good, too. The Eric Fisher pick just wasn't. Sorry.



If he's a right tackle, it's a terrible pick. Plain and simple.

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10470807)

I think we have good reason to think positive but he get's a C+ for last year despite the huge turnaround...