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mr. tegu 08-04-2012 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 8790891)
my argument is that .08 really isnt being drunk. At least not from my experience

Just my opinion though

That isn't the point.

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 8790856)
I wasn't dazed at all. A little buzzed but overall I handled the driving very well.

Honestly I'm not trying to troll here, I honestly thingk the legal limit should be raised.

If you disagree I understand

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Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 8790847)
So you knew for a fact that you were over the legal limit and decided it would be a good idea to drive anyway?

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barry_smilez20 08-04-2012 03:46 PM

Might as well play devil's advocate.

Let's get off our high horse, morality police. Are we to say that drinking and driving is definitively more dangerous than sober driving at 75-80 mph on crowded highways? Driving drunk AND driving at high speeds? Yes, of course... but what about driving drunk on 35 mph roads? What then? Especially in regard to fatalities. Which is more dangerous? I know what we are wired to believe, but if we really are trying to protect our fellow American citizens, why not take away the convenience of high speed? Set the max limits at 35-40MPH. I guess it's because we can rationalize one convenience and not the other.

Bwana 08-04-2012 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by barry_smilez20 (Post 8790917)
Might as well play devil's advocate.

Let's get off our high horse, morality police. Are we to say that drinking and driving is definitively more dangerous than sober driving at 75-80 mph on crowded highways? Driving drunk AND driving at high speeds? Yes, of course... but what about driving drunk on 35 mph roads? What then? Especially in regard to fatalities. Which is more dangerous? I know what we are wired to believe, but if we really are trying to protect our fellow American citizens, why not take away the convenience of high speed? Set the max limits at 35-40MPH. I guess it's because we can rationalize one convenience and not the other.

:spock:

What the ****?

mr. tegu 08-04-2012 03:49 PM

You must be quite the idiot. First you thought to yourself, "I am blowing a .10. I know that is above the legal limit, but that is okay I am going to drive anyways."

THEN you come on here and start a thread to raise the legal limit? Did you really think that would go over well? I can't figure out which action was a more stupid decision. :shrug: At least when you were buzzed your judgment was impaired. Not sure what the excuse is for this thread.

Setsuna 08-04-2012 03:50 PM

People tolerate it differently. .08 is about the only compromise available. You may be fine @ .10, but a 98 lb female will be plastered at a .10. You just never know.

mr. tegu 08-04-2012 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by barry_smilez20 (Post 8790917)
Might as well play devil's advocate.

Let's get off our high horse, morality police. Are we to say that drinking and driving is definitively more dangerous than sober driving at 75-80 mph on crowded highways? Driving drunk AND driving at high speeds? Yes, of course... but what about driving drunk on 35 mph roads? What then? Especially in regard to fatalities. Which is more dangerous? I know what we are wired to believe, but if we really are trying to protect our fellow American citizens, why not take away the convenience of high speed? Set the max limits at 35-40MPH. I guess it's because we can rationalize one convenience and not the other.

Worst post ever?

barry_smilez20 08-04-2012 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 8790919)
:spock:

We all shit on drunk drivers and then go out and drive 70-80 MPH without blinking an eye. Wanna pull up some high speed fatality statistics?

Sucky 08-04-2012 03:53 PM

how come I was successfully able to handle a car at .10 then ?

DaFace 08-04-2012 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by barry_smilez20 (Post 8790917)
Might as well play devil's advocate.

Let's get off our high horse, morality police. Are we to say that drinking and driving is definitively more dangerous than sober driving at 75-80 mph on crowded highways? Driving drunk AND driving at high speeds? Yes, of course... but what about driving drunk on 35 mph roads? What then? Especially in regard to fatalities. Which is more dangerous? I know what we are wired to believe, but if we really are trying to protect our fellow American citizens, why not take away the convenience of high speed? Set the max limits at 35-40MPH. I guess it's because we can rationalize one convenience and not the other.

You're not very good at playing devil's advocate. There are thousands upon thousands of people who drive at 75-80mph safely all the time. As a percentage of all drivers, crashes at those speeds are very rare.

Crashes among drunk drivers, on the other hand, are relatively common. Roughly one-fourth of all fatality accidents in the U.S. involve a drunk driver. So unless you're arguing that one-fourth of all drivers are drunk, then it's pretty obvious that speeding isn't as dangerous as driving drunk.

barry_smilez20 08-04-2012 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 8790935)
You're not very good at playing devil's advocate. There are thousands upon thousands of people who drive at 75-80mph safely all the time. As a percentage of all drivers, crashes at those speeds are very rare.

Crashes among drunk drivers, on the other hand, are relatively common. Roughly one-fourth of all fatality accidents in the U.S. involve a drunk driver. So unless you're arguing that one-fourth of all drivers are drunk, then it's pretty obvious that speeding isn't as dangerous as driving drunk.

But how often does speed play into the factor of drunk driving death? If they were drunk and driving 38MPH it may be a different story.

FlaChief58 08-04-2012 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by barry_smilez20 (Post 8790917)
Might as well play devil's advocate.

Let's get off our high horse, morality police. Are we to say that drinking and driving is definitively more dangerous than sober driving at 75-80 mph on crowded highways? Driving drunk AND driving at high speeds? Yes, of course... but what about driving drunk on 35 mph roads? What then? Especially in regard to fatalities. Which is more dangerous? I know what we are wired to believe, but if we really are trying to protect our fellow American citizens, why not take away the convenience of high speed? Set the max limits at 35-40MPH. I guess it's because we can rationalize one convenience and not the other.

STFU numbnuts! Drunk driving is drunk driving. People die or get seriously injured in slow speed crashes all the time. Just ask any EMT.

Bwana 08-04-2012 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by barry_smilez20 (Post 8790933)
We all shit on drunk drivers and then go out and drive 70-80 MPH without blinking an eye. Wanna pull up some high speed fatality statistics?

I live in Montana and drive 80 MPH almost every day and don't have ANY problems. I bet if I drove around liquored up every day, I would have LOTS of problems. You do know the speed limit on the interstate is 75............right?

Bwana 08-04-2012 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 8790934)
how come I was successfully able to handle a car at .10 then ?

99 out of 100 times, you will get away with it. 1 out a 100, you will be floating in shit creek.

DaFace 08-04-2012 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by barry_smilez20 (Post 8790941)
But how often does speed play into the factor of drunk driving death? If they were drunk and driving 38MPH it may be a different story.

So you're suggesting that we lower the speed limit universally so that drunk people can drive? Or am I missing your point?

Bwana 08-04-2012 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by barry_smilez20 (Post 8790941)
But how often does speed play into the factor of drunk driving death? If they were drunk and driving 38MPH it may be a different story.

:facepalm:

Are you drunk, RIGHT NOW?


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