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AustinChief 11-15-2010 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 7176078)
The only way this team is getting a premier weapon for Cassel is if they tank hard and pick 15 or better.

Dude, you KNOW that isn't true... there will be PLENTY of premier weapons past the top 15 picks... they just might not be the typical "can't miss" highly touted prospects... We will need to get lucky and scout VERY well... but it is possible.

What WRs do you have going in the top 15? Baldwin? AJ Green? Who else? Do you really think Floyd and Jones will both go top 15? Not to mention the countless guys who are still under the radar right now...

Brock 11-15-2010 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 7176117)
It would have made more sense to reach for Sanchez than reach for Tyson Jackson.

well, no argument from me. But you could say that about like 15 players in that draft.

RedThat 11-15-2010 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 7176096)
They're about to enter the scenario several of us discussed when they were using top 5 picks and not taking a QB..now the team has enough talent to compete and win a number of games. This makes us to good to pick high for elite QB prospects yet not good enough to win anything...the position of limbo.

Well, it sounds like you want a quarterback.

And yeah I feel the same way too, but I have a feeling they will stick with Cassel. If thats the case, then Im hoping they just draft well and build the team as a whole.

Seriously, what else could they really do? If they could have another draft like last year, I'd be really pleased. They could improve as many positions possible. I don't care. i just want to see a solid overall draft again, and I'd like to see them for a change draft a player that has the ability to uplift the spirit of the team. Game changing players, impact players, catalysts.. We have none of those on this team.

*And to find one of those guys it doesn't have to always be top 5 as history would suggest or indicate. Just find those type of players somewhere in the draft. Please. Im so sick of this team coming out flat. Especially on the road. There is no excuse for that bullsh*t. It disgusting to see that as a fan.

Mecca 11-15-2010 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7176146)
Even if there was a premier qb on the board, I dont see them taking him if there was a premier weapon there.

16 TD 4 INT

to the flotation device with a bad motor

Cassel is a perfect example of how you can take a scheme and use it to shield and pad a players stats to make it look like he had a good year when in reality he didn't.

chiefzilla1501 11-15-2010 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 7176121)
They're not, and for 2 years they've done things to pad his stats so it's blatantly obvious he's coming back.

I am pretty convinced that the front office isn't that stubborn to admit they made a huge mistake with Cassel. I really hope that I'm right.

jd1020 11-15-2010 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 7176172)
Dude, you KNOW that isn't true... there will be PLENTY of premier weapons past the top 15 picks... they just might not be the typical "can't miss" highly touted prospects... We will need to get lucky and scout VERY well... but it is possible.

What WRs do you have going in the top 15? Baldwin? AJ Green? Who else? Do you really think Floyd and Jones will both go top 15? Not to mention the countless guys who are still under the radar right now...

I wouldnt be shocked at all if Green is the only WR to be top 15.

Mecca 11-15-2010 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 7176172)
Dude, you KNOW that isn't true... there will be PLENTY of premier weapons past the top 15 picks... they just might not be the typical "can't miss" highly touted prospects... We will need to get lucky and scout VERY well... but it is possible.

What WRs do you have going in the top 15? Baldwin? AJ Green? Who else? Do you really think Floyd and Jones will both go top 15? Not to mention the countless guys who are still under the radar right now...

As of today I think Green's a top 5 pick, Baldwins a top 10 guy and Jones will go somewhere in the 10-15 range. Floyd I think could be anywhere from mid 1st to the 2nd but I don't think he's nearly on the level the other 3 are.

RedThat 11-15-2010 10:24 PM

You know what I think the real problem is with the Chiefs? They're not mentally tough enough.

Bewbies 11-15-2010 10:27 PM

I'm hoping for a QB. If we're screwed there one of the elite WR's with our #1. To fix the D we need a NT (Powe?) and an OLB. One guy I like is from UGA, Justin Houston. What's he, probably a 3-5 rounder?

jd1020 11-15-2010 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 7176238)
I'm hoping for a QB. If we're screwed there one of the elite WR's with our #1. To fix the D we need a NT (Powe?) and an OLB. One guy I like is from UGA, Justin Houston. What's he, probably a 3-5 rounder?

What's with all this wanting to draft a QB in the first round? The Chiefs will be drafting in the 15-20 range most likely. What the hell QB are you going to take that earlier? Luck and Locker wont be on the board. Are you seriously going to use that pick on Ponder?

AustinChief 11-15-2010 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 7176212)
As of today I think Green's a top 5 pick, Baldwins a top 10 guy and Jones will go somewhere in the 10-15 range. Floyd I think could be anywhere from mid 1st to the 2nd but I don't think he's nearly on the level the other 3 are.

I seriously doubt this happens AT ALL... I know YOU value WR... but most NFL teams do not (well at least not as much as you)...

Past drafts and 1st round position of WRs taken
2010 - 22,24
2009 - 7,10,19,22,29,30
2008 - none
2007 - 2,9,23,27,30,32
2006 - 25
2005 - 3,7,10,21,22,27

You have to go back to 2005 to find a draft with 3 WRs in the top 15

I expect there to be 3 or 4 great WRs that we know about and 2 of them going in the top 15...

That said... I'd take an elite NT over WR.. but I highly doubt one of those slips out of the top 15...

I also think our OL is a fraud and needs a ton of work... not worth a 1st rounder but we better do some heavy investing in later rounds.

Mecca 11-15-2010 10:35 PM

And this is the best WR draft in awhile, at least for top end talent, that's why I think more are gonna go high.

AustinChief 11-15-2010 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 7176259)
Past drafts and 1st round position of WRs taken
2010 - 22,24
2009 - 7,10,19,22,29,30
2008 - none
2007 - 2,9,23,27,30,32
2006 - 25
2005 - 3,7,10,21,22,27

You have to go back to 2005 to find a draft with 3 WRs in the top 15

..btw, IF it does happen.. this would be the year... look at the CRAZY WR heavy pattern that occurs every OTHER year...

AustinChief 11-15-2010 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 7176269)
And this is the best WR draft in awhile, at least for top end talent, that's why I think more are gonna go high.

I agree but I think that we will see more than 3 top end guys by the time the draft rolls around.. I can see it easily being 5 or 6 guys that go in the first or early second and being studs.

BossChief 11-15-2010 10:39 PM

I dont think I would take Floyd or Julio Jones if they were on the board, no matter where we pick in the first.

Floyd isnt available enough to warrant a very high pick and Julio Jones drops as many passes as Bowe.

No way Green is there when we pick, but I could see Baldwin being there and if he is, he would be a good pick.


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