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crazycoffey 10-17-2010 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 7097675)
The whole team fell apart in the fourth quarter. You can't kick field goals against a team like Houston; you need TDs, and you need them every time you're in the red zone. You can't give a team like the Texans a short field repeatedly following kickoffs, either. You can't give a team with a QB like Schaub and a receiver like Johnson unlimited time to pick your secondary apart. And if you get the ball with 3:30 to go, with the lead, on a day where you have over 400 yards of offense, you damn well ought to be able to run the ****ing clock out. That was just inexcusable. I don't care who makes the play, the QB (who missed the open receiver), or one of the runningbacks who's been prison-raping their defense all afternoon, SOMEBODY has to make a goddamn play. And the same goes for the defense at the end. Sack the QB, force a fumble, intercept a pass. DO SOMETHING.

Everybody was to blame. Coaches and players in all three phases.

In all seriousness, this is a very good take on the blame game.

I was yelling at the TV (in the 3rd quarter I think), when we ran the ball down Houston's throats some 60-70 yards have 1st and goal and throw 3 passes. I couldn't ****ing believe it.

I still hate cassel now though....

Rasputin 10-17-2010 04:03 PM
I was holding my heart throughout this game like Red Fox. Geeze I want to blame the refs for that BS call but too many bad plays on defense side to let one play break us. Cassel wtf, best game so far as a Chief but he still has a ways to go.


Ya know what Jamaal and Jones played outstanding they were fighting for every yard they deserve a game ball if we would have won. D Bowe played his best game this year too. I just say our defense let us down and leave it at that.

Lzen 10-17-2010 04:04 PM
There should be an option for all of the above. I believe that all were equal parts in this loss.

Extra Point 10-17-2010 04:04 PM
Can't change my vote from 4 to a 2. #2 was the turd on the menu.

Weis did a great job. Just picked the wrong play. A RG-C left-RG pull right-trap off Waters' left hip would have done the trick, with Jones carrying the ball, even if they had to go for it on 4th down. PRN, all the rest of the game.

Jones transitioned from disbelief to disgruntlement when the camera got him.

The interference call was pathetic, but that's how it goes. Flowers did a great job, and showed a lot of heart. The defense did as good a job as I could expect.

Dartgod 10-17-2010 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 7097735)
There should be an option for all of the above. I believe that all were equal parts in this loss.
Maybe not equal, but 50% defense, 20% Weis, 20 Cassel (last 2 posessions) and 10% refs.

BigMeatballDave 10-17-2010 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 7097687)
Anyone who blames Cassel for this loss is and idiot.
Why? We needed him to make a play and failed. Sure, the D shit the bed. But, in a game like this, he's got to make a play to seal the game there. He failed. Everyone failed today.

Fish 10-17-2010 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 7097675)
The whole team fell apart in the fourth quarter. You can't kick field goals against a team like Houston; you need TDs, and you need them every time you're in the red zone. You can't give a team like the Texans a short field repeatedly following kickoffs, either. You can't give a team with a QB like Schaub and a receiver like Johnson unlimited time to pick your secondary apart. And if you get the ball with 3:30 to go, with the lead, on a day where you have over 400 yards of offense, you damn well ought to be able to run the ****ing clock out. That was just inexcusable. I don't care who makes the play, the QB (who missed the open receiver), or one of the runningbacks who's been prison-raping their defense all afternoon, SOMEBODY has to make a goddamn play. And the same goes for the defense at the end. Sack the QB, force a fumble, intercept a pass. DO SOMETHING.

Everybody was to blame. Coaches and players in all three phases.
This. ****ing this.

Ming the Merciless 10-17-2010 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BCD (Post 7097751)
Why? We needed him to make a play and failed. Sure, the D shit the bed. But, in a game like this, he's got to make a play to seal the game there. He failed. Everyone failed today.
I dont agree. You dont go from having a big lead late in the game and scoring 30+ points, then give up TD's in the last 4 possessions and somehow blame the QB for one play.

The QB was not the problem today.

Dartgod 10-17-2010 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BCD (Post 7097751)
Why? We needed him to make a play and failed. Sure, the D shit the bed. But, in a game like this, he's got to make a play to seal the game there. He failed. Everyone failed today.
He made the plays we needed him to make to win the game. The defense gave up 4 consecutive TD drives to end the game.

Yeah, it would have been nice to have completed that 3rd down pass to seal the game, but one bad pass in no way makes him the goat. In fact, I'd blame the play call before I layed it on Cassel.

Chiefs Rool 10-17-2010 04:13 PM
It's gotta be the defense, but some coaching definitely played a big role in the loss. Most of all the 3rd and 2 call. The refs certainly screwed us a bit too, the bad spot on the 3rd down run, the flowers thing, a good amount of no-calls that we should have got. I don't watch enough of other teams to make a comparison if other teams get fucked by refs at the same rate that we do.

BigMeatballDave 10-17-2010 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 7097765)
He made the plays we needed him to make to win the game. The defense gave up 4 consecutive TD drives to end the game.

Yeah, it would have been nice to have completed that 3rd down pass to seal the game, but one bad pass in no way makes him the goat. In fact, I'd blame the play call before I layed it on Cassel.
They all failed. He did play well, though. He's not the answer. A good QB would have executed.

Reerun_KC 10-17-2010 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 7097762)
I dont agree. You dont go from having a big lead late in the game and scoring 30+ points, then give up TD's in the last 4 possessions and somehow blame the QB for one play.

The QB was not the problem today.
I take you you're still very new here? I dont think you fully understand the culture of CP just yet...

Reerun_KC 10-17-2010 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BCD (Post 7097779)
They all failed. He did play well, though. He's not the answer. A good QB would have executed.
I think you can insert just about any position into this and have the same meaning after todays game.

BigMeatballDave 10-17-2010 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 7097782)
I think you can insert just about any position into this and have the same meaning after todays game.
Probably. However, the QB is the most important position on the field.

Dartgod 10-17-2010 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BCD (Post 7097779)
They all failed. He did play well, though. He's not the answer. A good QB would have executed.
I'm no fan of Cassel, but the defense deserves the biggest share of the blame for today. Cassel played his best game this season. If the defense makes ONE STOP on the Texan's last four possessions, we win. End of story.

I think peoples hatred of Cassel is clouding their judgment for the most part.


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