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milkman 04-28-2010 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Blick (Post 6717758)
Brian Westrbook caught 426 passes in his career with the Eagles. Andy Reid likes to throw to his RB...that's where McCluster fits...not as a "smaller, slower version of the two WR's they already have".
LeSean McCoy.

Blick 04-28-2010 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6721073)
LeSean McCoy.
More of a pure RB than a multi-purpose receiving threat.

Blick 04-28-2010 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6721071)
So let me see if I understand this.

We addressed needs with UDRAs?

LMAO
Yeah, that's what I said. :rolleyes:

Sheffield was a draft pick.

Studebaker wasn't undrafted.

I said they might have addressed a need at ILB.

We weren't going to address all of our needs in this draft. Hopefully, they get something out of some undrafted guys. That's really all I'm saying.

milkman 04-28-2010 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Blick (Post 6721105)
More of a pure RB than a multi-purpose receiving threat.
McCoy had 40 catches last year.

You know how many catches Westbrook had his rookie season?

9.

His second season he had 37.

So I think you might be just a little off on that assessment.

milkman 04-28-2010 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Blick (Post 6721119)
Yeah, that's what I said. :rolleyes:

Sheffield was a draft pick.

Studebaker wasn't undrafted.

I said they might have addressed a need at ILB.

We weren't going to address all of our needs in this draft. Hopefully, they get something out of some undrafted guys. That's really all I'm saying.
In about 99.999987% of UDFAs, the most you can hope for is a project that sticks.

Suggesting that we addressed needs in UDFA is an unrealistic dream.

Blick 04-28-2010 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6721128)
In about 99.999987% of UDFAs, the most you can hope for is a project that sticks.

Suggesting that we addressed needs in UDFA is an unrealistic dream.
I know. I'm just saying that bringing in a pass rusher and an inside LB as UDFA's is better than not looking at those positions at all since we didn't draft any (outside of Sheffield, who is a project himself).

Blick 04-28-2010 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6721125)
McCoy had 40 catches last year.

You know how many catches Westbrook had his rookie season?

9.

His second season he had 37.

So I think you might be just a little off on that assessment.
Like I said, Reid likes to throw to his RB's.

McCoy only had 65 career receptions in college, yet he had 584 rushing attempts, which is where my pure runner statement came from.

BossChief 04-30-2010 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6715548)
So instead they reached for McCluster because they knew that he was going to go with the next pick. They should have reached and taken Troup at #36.....at least it filled a ****ing need. We could have got our slot receiver at #50 with Golden Tate.
Like I said, I trust Romeo Crennels assessment of a player far beyond anyone here. No offense to anyone here...lets see how it pans out before we go burning peoples houses down, shall we.

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6717526)
To think they need a player who is a smaller, slower version of the two WR's they already have, and gives you nothing the two of them don't give, is pretty ridiculous.

Everybody and their brother knew they wanted one of the top safeties.

To each their own.
Dexter played two years of receiver as well as two years of RB and we are talking about a team that just jettisoned Bryan Westbrook and lost Buckhalter the previous year and has been targeting playmakers like McCluster the last few years. A team that heavily values depth. Sal Pal flat out said he was the Eagles pick.

I GUARANTEE that if we had taken Troup and Dexter McCluster was the Eagles pick that we ALL know what the argument would be right now.

PIOLI DID GOOD

PLAYMAKER

salame 04-30-2010 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 6715502)
I don't disagree with too much of what walter has to say. Berry was obviously the right pick. But a safety in the top 5... Eh. I'd give it a B+...

McCluster**** would be a D in my book. We took a 170 lb roleplayer whose shelf life is likely under five years when there are a number of everydown improvements on the board, including a QB whom your QB expert has worked with extensively and is telling you has the makings of a franchise player?

At 2B, we could have had golden tate or cody... But we go with a midget nickleback/return specialist? What's the point of drafting Berry at five if you don't plan to man him up in nickle situations?

I like the Asamoah pick. Good value at a position of need. Certainly an A.

Then we trade up and take a player who can't stay healthy at a position that isn't even used in our offense.

And we pass on Cam Thomas in the fifth? Wtf...
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/...n/2514179.jpeg
midget cornerback?
you realize he is the same size as brandon flowers right?

BossChief 04-30-2010 02:08 AM
That picture creeps me out.

Willie Lanier 04-30-2010 04:36 PM
I think ego got into his draft assessment quite a bit, but I agree with some of his grades.

Overall we did what teams that are successful do, we used a balanced combination of drafting talent with value.

I love the Berry pick, McCluster will provide a nice level of versatility, Arenas can be our punt returner and hopefully an elite nickel, the people who know O-line love Asomoah, Moeaki was incredibly underrated and might wind up as a more athletic Kevin Boss.

After round three my view is draft the best talent available, and the scouts are defending our picks so I'll agree.

DaneMcCloud 04-30-2010 05:03 PM
Walter's a ****ing idiot.

He's just a guy with a website and he's frequently wrong about absolutely everything. I don't know why anyone would give his opinions any credence, whatsoever.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-30-2010 05:46 PM
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Season Summary:
I think most of us can now confirm that handing out $63 million to noodle-armed quarterbacks doesn't work. Sadly, there are some who will still argue this. But just imagine if the Chiefs just selected Mark Sanchez at No. 3 overall and used their second-round choice on someone like Ziggy Hood (would have to trade up a few spots) or Rey Maualuga. You can say hindsight is 20-20, but several people actually mocked these players to Kansas City back in January.
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Sweet Daddy Hate 04-30-2010 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6728136)
Walter's a ****ing idiot.

He's just a guy with a website and he's frequently wrong about absolutely everything. I don't know why anyone would give his opinions any credence, whatsoever.
Yeah, but the middle section I quoted is dead...balls...accurate. :)

OleMissCub 05-01-2010 04:36 PM
still amazed people are still bitching about McCluster's speed. Maybe if all you ever looked at was that one combine time and never saw a second of his game film it would be understandable..but at this point surely everyone has seen clip after clip of him completely burning guys in the most athletic football conference.

If you want to bitch about his size, durability, whatever, then fine, but stop bitching about his speed. He can flat out fly.


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