Leinart hasn't displayed the motivation or commitment to do much more than hold a clip board and knock back beer bongs. I live in Phoenix, I see and hear the reports. Don't be surprised to see Matty continue to accept the back-up role behind Kurt instead of trying to force a trade so he can play. Matty knows when he has it good.

Him being a hot head isn't the issue, it's a symptom. He's had mental lapses, on and off the field, since high school. I fully understand where you're coming from, but it's not out-of-the-question to wonder if the kid has what it takes upstairs to take his game to the next level. It was plastered all over his scouting reports.

Jake Plummer Part II ??

I see what you mean. We're on opposite sides of the fence here so we see the same thing differently. I feel like you can coach poise in the pocket and progression reads but you can't coach a cross-body 45 yard laser.
We'll see what happens with him. If he stays, losing B-Marsh is not going to help.

So far I think the kid-coach McDaniels has had a great run in the FA market but has pissed me off.
Wanting Cassell is just plain stupid. He only wanted him because he was a Patsy. McKid also cut our long-snapper and locker room leader so he could sign NE long-snapper.
I hate that shit.

You must have missed the part where he said "great arm".

I think he was comparing the general attitude of both players.

Exactly. This is nothing more and the 3rd article in the past week about Kiper slamming into Cutler who has nothing to do with the upcoming draft. Kiper is a sad little man.

You can coach poise and progression to a certain extent, but only to a guy that CAN and WANTS to learn. It remains to be seen if Cutler is that guy or not.

We really don't see it all that differently on the surface. The difference is that you're a Bronco fan so you hope he pans out. I'm a rival so I hope he doesn't. It's that slight emotional color in the argument that causes the difference in viewpoints.

You'd be incorrect about that. Cutler until his vacation started was at Dove Valley everyday pouring over his performance from the prior season. He gets better every year.

That's what I was trying to say but didn't state so clearly.

Just curious: Assuming you like all the changes (upgrades) that KC has made in HC/Front Office personnel: When was the last pre-season year you were as optimistic about the direction of your Chiefs as you are this year?

Plummer didn't have a ROCKET for an arm but he could deliver the ball down field at times. Especially when he played the Chiefs. :cuss:

Pretty much.

I think htismaqe has been dead on with most of his assessment so far IMO.

It seemed to me Plummer had an al dente noodle for an arm compared to Cutler. If he found a gun against KC it was only once a year and if you think that's bad try having your team lose to a team whose HC is Goonther ****ing Cunningham. Christ how embarassing.

The thing is, it's not his job to evaluate talent at the NFL level. I"ts his job to evaluate prospects and teams looking at prospects. He has to try and predict where players will go and when. That's it. And with this, he does a pretty decent job.

Honestly, I can't remember far enough back to be able to answer that.

I think they've done just about everything they could have so far.

But he's inviting the further conversation, and how well his forecasts panned out by bringing the topic up and beating his chest about how right he was, while at the same time ignoring his own errors.