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Sweet Daddy Hate 02-04-2009 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5459187)
eat a bag of shit

no wait

eat a bag of Mark Sanchez's shit

no wait

eat a bag of Mark Sanchez's shit and wash it down with some antifreeze

no wait

eat a bag of Mark Sanchez's shit and wash it down with some antifreeze as you jump and die in a fire.

At least it would be a QUALITY bag of shit that prior to death could impart more football knowledge to my brain in my last moments of consciousness than YOU could in 20 years, yes?

Quite so.

-King- 02-04-2009 09:12 PM

For the ones that are against it, they just dont see someone worth the #3 pick. Stafford will likely be gone and Sanchez could have just been a one year wonder. He played in a USC offense that is great year in and year out. The only successful qbs from USC right now are either injured or used to be a backup in college. This is a weak year for qbs.

I'm on the fence on this. I'd really like a franchise qb but to me, Stafford is the only one worthy of our pick. He's been a longer starter and is more consistent. And seeing as how the last few USC draft picks have turned out for the worse, I'm weary on Sanchez. For some reason unknown to us, these players thrive at USC but then turn average once they get to the NFL. The best one is Reggie Bush and he's not even an every down back. The back ups have done better than the starters so far(Cassel and L. White)

I'll be totally for getting Sanchez if Pioli and the new HC thinks he's worthy of the pick, but if he isn't picked, I wont be mad at all.

Mizzou_8541 02-04-2009 09:13 PM

Who is Steve Fuller?

Fritz88 02-04-2009 09:15 PM

Shouldn't we invest in fixing our miserable D?

Let's look at why we lost games last year. When we finally turned things around in offense, it was our D that did not protect our lead. It was not able to get us the ball when we needed it. Tyler did a decent job and he should be given a chance to continue proving himself.

He runs, he takes hits and we have seen him improve substantially. His mistakes were those of rookie's mistakes. He will get over them and he has nothing but to improve.

Another reason why everyone in here is raving about getting a QB is that many of the guys in here were impressed by how Flacco and Ryan did this year and they want a similar case which is very unreasonable because Flacco had a good D (he is an average QB at best, another Trent Diffler) and Ryan who is actually a good QB (note that he is a senior when he entered the NFL) and no one in the current draft is nearly as good as him.

The one I like is Sanchez and his coach came against him and said that he is not read. No one knows him better than his coach and he said that Sanchez should stay.

Flame me.

OnTheWarpath15 02-04-2009 09:25 PM

Part of it is people have no ****ing clue how important having a franchise QB is, and part of it is that people don't understand positional value when it comes to the draft.

Marcellus 02-04-2009 09:27 PM

Why is it so hard for some Chiefs fans to realize that not all Chiefs fans believe this years crop of 1st round QB choices is not that appealing to other Chiefs fans?

Just because I am not sold on drafting a QB at #3 this year because I don't believe either QB is worthy of that pick doesn't mean I am against a 1st round QB. I would have taken Brady Quinn 2 years ago in a heart beat even if we had to trade up.

Why do some Chiefs fans beleiev you have to take a QB at #3 no matter who it is? That's insane.

I will take whatever Pioli chooses and deal with it. I trust he knows better than this board and if he takes a QB at #3 I will say I was was wrong.

chiefzilla1501 02-04-2009 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5459205)
For the ones that are against it, they just dont see someone worth the #3 pick. Stafford will likely be gone and Sanchez could have just been a one year wonder. He played in a USC offense that is great year in and year out. The only successful qbs from USC right now are either injured or used to be a backup in college. This is a weak year for qbs.

I'm on the fence on this. I'd really like a franchise qb but to me, Stafford is the only one worthy of our pick. He's been a longer starter and is more consistent. And seeing as how the last few USC draft picks have turned out for the worse, I'm weary on Sanchez. For some reason unknown to us, these players thrive at USC but then turn average once they get to the NFL. The best one is Reggie Bush and he's not even an every down back. The back ups have done better than the starters so far(Cassel and L. White)

I'll be totally for getting Sanchez if Pioli and the new HC thinks he's worthy of the pick, but if he isn't picked, I wont be mad at all.

Bingo, bango. Few have actually said the Chiefs shouldn't draft a QB. The prevailing point is that if you spend a #3 pick on a QB, he better be graded as a top 5 QB. You don't walk into a pick with tunnelvision.

Marcellus 02-04-2009 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 5459261)
Bingo, bango. Few have actually said the Chiefs shouldn't draft a QB. The prevailing point is that if you spend a #3 pick on a QB, he better be graded as a top 5 QB. You don't walk into a pick with tunnelvision.

This. The real question is why do some Chiefs fans believe that Stafford (who will be gone) or Sanchez are the franchise QB?

ChiefsCountry 02-04-2009 09:32 PM

This reminds me so much of the 2007 Draft debate. WR or LT. It was a great year for WR's, but we had the people jumping up and down for Joe Freakin Staley. We told people then that LT had a bumper crop in 2008 and WR would be down. And behold look what happened in 2008 Draft. Ton of good LT's and not a single WR was took in the first. Now in 2009, we have a shot a legit franchise QB in Stafford or Sanchez. Defense players arent that highly regarded, but the 2010 draft is loaded across the board with defense playmakers and the QB's are of the spread variety. This isnt a one year lets get back to the playoffs rebuild, this for the next decade to be Super Bowl champs.

Adept Havelock 02-04-2009 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5459147)

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kcxiv 02-04-2009 09:35 PM

I dont care who they draft. Pick whoever they think will help this team win. I just hope whoever it is they draft they nail it.

Mr. Laz 02-04-2009 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Adept Havelock (Post 5459267)

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Sweet Daddy Hate 02-04-2009 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5459254)
Part of it is people have no ****ing clue how important having a franchise QB is, and part of it is that people don't understand positional value when it comes to the draft.

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5459264)
This reminds me so much of the 2007 Draft debate. WR or LT. It was a great year for WR's, but we had the people jumping up and down for Joe Freakin Staley. We told people then that LT had a bumper crop in 2008 and WR would be down. And behold look what happened in 2008 Draft. Ton of good LT's and not a single WR was took in the first. Now in 2009, we have a shot a legit franchise QB in Stafford or Sanchez. Defense players arent that highly regarded, but the 2010 draft is loaded across the board with defense playmakers and the QB's are of the spread variety. This isnt a one year lets get back to the playoffs rebuild, this for the next decade to be Super Bowl champs.

BEWARE THE DREADED MIRROR!!!:whackit:

PastorMikH 02-04-2009 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 5459219)
Shouldn't we invest in fixing our miserable D?



We got rid of Gunther, that should help a lot.

Mr. Laz 02-04-2009 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 5459260)
Why is it so hard for some Chiefs fans to realize that not all Chiefs fans believe this years crop of 1st round QB choices is not that appealing to other Chiefs fans?

Just because I am not sold on drafting a QB at #3 this year because I don't believe either QB is worthy of that pick doesn't mean I am against a 1st round QB. I would have taken Brady Quinn 2 years ago in a heart beat even if we had to trade up.

Why do some Chiefs fans beleiev you have to take a QB at #3 no matter who it is? That's insane.

I will take whatever Pioli chooses and deal with it. I trust he knows better than this board and if he takes a QB at #3 I will say I was was wrong.

it's because they are so freakin sure that they are smarter than everyone else that their judgement of this year's QB crop is correct ..... everyone else must be an idiot.

they say it about every other post

"you're stupid"
"you're an idiot"
"nobody else is smart enough to know how important a QB is"
"i'm smart, everyone else is just 'scared' "
"you can't fix stupid.."

blah,blah,blah

i'm not necessarily against drafting a QB ... if pioli thinks he wants Stafford etc, i'm fine....

but i sure am sick of this group of arrogant muther fuggers running around dog piling on anyone that doesn't spout their "approved message"


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