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the Talking Can 12-19-2008 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 5311000)
I hope he doesn't get the chance.

me too...but i'm preparing to be disappointed

TRR 12-19-2008 12:43 PM

I have no clue as to why some posters on here say that Herm will be gone. He has the backing of Clark Hunt, and has done a good job collecting young talent. I am of the opinion that Herm was in a no-win situation with the shit he took over, and is finally starting to get his own players in the mix. Why change now? I think it sets us back, especially when a new coach isn't going to want to stay with Gailey.

HemiEd 12-19-2008 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5310955)
Herm has never been a DC, so where you're getting the idea that he'd be good at it is a mystery.

He is bound to be good at something, that might be it.

Skip Towne 12-19-2008 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 5311079)
He is bound to be good at something, that might be it.

He's good at under bus throwing.

HemiEd 12-19-2008 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by smittysbar (Post 5310998)
If Herm goes into next year as a lame duck coach, no one worth a shit will want to come work for a year and done. If Herm comes back, I bet it with all the same coaches. I don't see any way Herm is here though.

This is exactly the reason I think Herm is gone, it just wouldn't make sense with the rest of the pieces of the puzzle to keep him.

Hammock Parties 12-19-2008 12:54 PM

Haven't you heard? Gun is a legend. A Kansas City Icon.

THE GUN!!!!!!111one

Extra Point 12-19-2008 12:58 PM

Fire the Gunn. Hire the DC from Texas U, LSU, or USC. After the new GM fires Herm, he'll hire Cowher, and Cowher gets to spend 4 months to teach his defense. The only guy worth keeping is Gailey.

RustShack 12-19-2008 01:00 PM

Its pretty hard to tell who the DC will be before you know who the GM and HC is.

HemiEd 12-19-2008 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 5311084)
He's good at under bus throwing.

Yeah, that tune is starting to get old, probably to even the most casual observer.

BigChiefFan 12-19-2008 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR (Post 5311058)
I have no clue as to why some posters on here say that Herm will be gone. He has the backing of Clark Hunt, and has done a good job collecting young talent. I am of the opinion that Herm was in a no-win situation with the shit he took over, and is finally starting to get his own players in the mix. Why change now? I think it sets us back, especially when a new coach isn't going to want to stay with Gailey.

He has a TOTAL of 15 wins in THREE SEASONS. He has the 32nd ranked defense. His clock management is pathetic. A competent GM will never hitch their wagon to that type of coaching. What can you dispute out of that?

CoMoChief 12-19-2008 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by royr17 (Post 5311039)
Me I wouldnt mind having Romeo Crennel for DC. He's a good DC better than Gun.

he runs a 3-4 dont count on it.

CoMoChief 12-19-2008 01:06 PM

Gunther is Chiefs football.

crazycoffey 12-19-2008 01:07 PM

can we lock the freakin thread?

TRR 12-19-2008 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 5311106)
He has a TOTAL of 15 wins in THREE SEASONS. He has the 32nd ranked defense. His clock management is pathetic. A competent GM will never hitch their wagon to that type of coaching. What can you dispute out of that?

He made the playoffs his first season. By all accounts, Herm wanted to dismantle the team the following year, but Carl Peterson over-ruled him, and wanted to scotch tape the team together for one more run. (which failed). This year was a rebuilding year. Nobody including Clark Hunt thought KC was going to be a contender.

Now I'm not saying that Herm Edwards is the second coming, but let's give the guy a shot to win with his players, his way. Either that, or let's be like the Washington Redskins, and hire a new coach every 2-3 years, and never get anywhere.

Your looking for the quick fix, and there isn't one.

BigChiefFan 12-19-2008 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR (Post 5311156)
He made the playoffs his first season. By all accounts, Herm wanted to dismantle the team the following year, but Carl Peterson over-ruled him, and wanted to scotch tape the team together for one more run. (which failed). This year was a rebuilding year. Nobody including Clark Hunt thought KC was going to be a contender.

Now I'm not saying that Herm Edwards is the second coming, but let's give the guy a shot to win with his players, his way. Either that, or let's be like the Washington Redskins, and hire a new coach every 2-3 years, and never get anywhere.

Your looking for the quick fix, and there isn't one.

He's been GIVEN three years. His defense has REGRESSED. We gave up a draft pick, so he could FIX the defense and he hasn't. He firmly hitched his wagon to Mr. Bust, himself, Croyle. His FIX for the O-line has consisted of Damion McIntosh and Kyle Turley as the SOLUTIONS. His epic scouting consists of players like Jeff Webb throughout our entire roster. How exactly is the team getting BETTER under his watch? More youth doesn't equate to more progress. Herm is a bust in Kansas City. Failure after failure, after failure with that man.


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