Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5028032)

Hey Warpath, now do you see what I was talking about with Thigpen?

HE SUCKS.

In no way does he deserve to start another game.

Originally Posted by luv (Post 5028035)

You don't think that, if we got a different coach, we'd started seeing at least some chnages within 4-5 weeks?

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5028029)

I understand, but here's the problem with that.

People "supposedly" jumped on board with this rebuild in the offseason KNOWING that Herm Edwards would be the coach and that Carl Peterson would be the GM in 2008.

Now, those same people are pitching a bitch because, big surprise, Herm Edwards is the coach and Carl Peterson is the GM.

People expecting heads to roll 2 weeks into the season are exactly the people Gretz is writing about in this piece - it's flat out panic.

I don't like Edwards either, at least as a coach. But it would solve NOTHING to start firing people 2 weeks into the season with 35 new players on a 52 man roster. We'd still witness the same bullshit week in, week out, the difference being who gives the press conferences on Mondays.

REAL change is 15 weeks away. Like it or not.

Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5028032)

Hey Warpath, now do you see what I was talking about with Thigpen?

HE SUCKS.

In no way does he deserve to start another game.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5028054)

You know, I have been pissed with the Chiefs since '93, when they traded for a QB that was coming off a major injury, who had three years left at best.

We had been taking the right path in building this team until that point, and even then I had no confidence in the coach to ever take the team to the SB.

Here we are, 15 years later, and we finally have commited to building through the draft again, but we are in the same damn boat as far as coaching is concerned.
We have a coach that I don't believe can ever take this team to the SB.

I don't expect Herman ****ing Edwards and Carl to be fired before season's end, if even then, but I'm going to complain some about the dumb****s until they're gone.

Hell, maybe even after they're gone.

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 5028066)

Young quarterbacks usually do suck. What better option do they have?

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5028049)

No.

Here's why:

It's damn near unprecedented for an organization to bring in a new coach from OUTSIDE the organization in the middle of a season.

- Good candidates typically aren't available, they are working for other teams in some capacity.

- Even IF a good candidate was available, why would he want a job in which he's basically auditioning for a new GM? No one is going to take a job under those circumstances

If they fire Herm, either Gunther (most likely) or Gailey will be running the show. Nothing will change except the man sending the message.

Originally Posted by luv (Post 5028085)

If it's Chan, and what people are saying about Herm harnessing him is true, he won't have anyone leashing him anymore.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5028029)

I understand, but here's the problem with that.

People "supposedly" jumped on board with this rebuild in the offseason KNOWING that Herm Edwards would be the coach and that Carl Peterson would be the GM in 2008.

Now, those same people are pitching a bitch because, big surprise, Herm Edwards is the coach and Carl Peterson is the GM.People expecting heads to roll 2 weeks into the season are exactly the people Gretz is writing about in this piece - it's flat out panic.

I don't like Edwards either, at least as a coach. But it would solve NOTHING to start firing people 2 weeks into the season with 35 new players on a 52 man roster. We'd still witness the same bullshit week in, week out, the difference being who gives the press conferences on Mondays.

REAL change is 15 weeks away. Like it or not.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5028094)

Your assuming that Carl would make Gailey, who's a relative outside to the organization the HC, versus Gunther, who has a long history with the team.

If Carl's proven anything over the last 19 years, it's that the good 'ole boy network is not to be deviated from.

Originally Posted by luv (Post 5028101)

Gunther was the coach for what, a year? You think that Carl would put him in that position again?

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 5028096)

I was backing the rebuild and I still am but not with Herm. I'm not upset because of "Herm" I'm upset because Herm didn't have his team close to prepared for the Raiders. Doesn't matter who the HC is if his team is that ill prepared for a division apponent then I doubt he can develope a young group of players. As soon as the game started anyone could see that we didn't have a chance and that these guys weren't prepared. I bet alot of people who are in favor of the rebuild feel the same way I do at this point. Herm is proving he's not the guy for the job. I say let Chan be the HC for the interim and then make a play for someone like Jason Garrett when the season's over.

PhilFree:arrow:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5028103)

Two years, and yes, I have no doubt that is exactly what Carl would do.

Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5028110)

Gunther would quit. He would walk if they dumped Herm.

I know that gives some of you a woody.