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kstater 12-11-2007 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Orange Cameltoe

My boy was the best offensive lineman in the finest football conference in the country. If that doesn't qualify as an All-American, I don't what does.
Yet he wasn't the best or the 2nd or the 3rd best offensive lineman in the country. Again, this isn't an SEC award, it's a NATIONAL award.

Orange Cameltoe 12-11-2007 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by |Zach|
Being on the list in the thread topic.

This shouldn't be that hard.
Give me a reason why so-and-so should be on the All-American list instead of Andre Smith? Tell me why Andre wasn't good enough to be an All-American.

Your smartass, convenient replies don't accomplish anything.

Orange Cameltoe 12-11-2007 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by kstater
Yet he wasn't the best or the 2nd or the 3rd best offensive lineman in the country. Again, this isn't an SEC award, it's a NATIONAL award.
I am telling you Andre's game-film and play speak for itself. He should be recognized nationally, but offensive line is the toughest place for an underclassman to garner attention. The offensive line All-Americans are predetermined during the preseason and it's hard for a young guy to break into a group of seniors and juniors that typically have 40 starts under their belt.

kstater 12-11-2007 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Orange Cameltoe
Give me a reason why so-and-so should be on the All-American list instead of Andre Smith? Tell me why Andre wasn't good enough to be an All-American.

Your smartass, convenient replies don't accomplish anything.

Ooooh I can play this game too. Give me a reason why Andre Smith should be an All-American over the players selected. Tell me why these guys are not better than Andre Smith.

Orange Cameltoe 12-11-2007 03:59 PM
All-American

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AggressiveNapkin 12-11-2007 04:00 PM
I was kinda surprised Collins made that list. Speaks volumes as to the kind of publicity KU had been getting because I figured most didn't know about him

Dude was a beast though..played the last few games injured and still rarely got beat

WilliamTheIrish 12-11-2007 04:01 PM
Stater is owning the 'Toe like plantation slave.

Continue 'Toe. It's rather funny to watch.

|Zach| 12-11-2007 04:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Orange Cameltoe
Give me a reason why so-and-so should be on the All-American list instead of Andre Smith? Tell me why Andre wasn't good enough to be an All-American.

Your smartass, convenient replies don't accomplish anything.
A reason why?

I would say it is because he isn't as good as Anthony Collins, Jake Long, Kirk Barton ,Ryan Stanchek, Ryan Clady, or Sam Baker.

Pitt Gorilla 12-11-2007 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Orange Cameltoe
I am not going to back down because a deserving player got snubbed. Andre Smith is an All-American. The flawed system doesn't reward underclassmen. It took 75 years for the voters to finally recognize a deserving sophomore for the Heisman.

Andre Smith shared the Jacobs Trophy with Jonathan Luigs, who just so happened to win the Rimington Award, which goes to the best center in the country. Luigs is a consensus All-American. You don't think a sophomore is deserving who shares the "Best offensive lineman honor" with a player of that caliber then you're just a closed minded fool.

EAT IT PUNK!

http://blog.al.com/bamabeat/2007/12/...lineman_h.html
You mean the same flawed system that rewarded freshman Jeremy Maclin doesn't reward underclassmen?

Pitt Gorilla 12-11-2007 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by AggressiveNapkin
I was kinda surprised Collins made that list. Speaks volumes as to the kind of publicity KU had been getting because I figured most didn't know about him

Dude was a beast though..played the last few games injured and still rarely got beat
Collins is very good and should be good at the next level. However, when he played hurt against MU, Sulak spent quite a bit of time in KU's backfield and Collins was often the responsible party.

thebrad84 12-11-2007 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Orange Cameltoe
Give me a reason why so-and-so should be on the All-American list instead of Andre Smith? Tell me why Andre wasn't good enough to be an All-American.

Your smartass, convenient replies don't accomplish anything.
What I'm really having a tough time understanding is why you are so desperately trying to convince Planet members that your "boy" is so great and deserves to be All-American? What in the world compels you to join a CHIEFS message board and post nothing but post after post of blabble that is nothing more than a man crush you have on this Andre Smith guy. And at 6-4, 348, that's a BIG crush. NTTATWWT.

Orange Cameltoe 12-11-2007 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by kstater
Ooooh I can play this game too. Give me a reason why Andre Smith should be an All-American over the players selected. Tell me why these guys are not better than Andre Smith.
I have nothing against Long, Collins, Baker, Clady or Stanchek, but Smith should be there over Ryan Clady. Clady is a good techician and a fine run blocker, but he's not an exceptional pass blocker. He's average against speed rushers around the edge.

Andre Smith was a lot more impressive in all facets of blocking against tougher competition.

kstater 12-11-2007 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Orange Cameltoe
I have nothing against Long, Collins, Baker, Clady or Stanchek, but Smith should be there over Ryan Clady. Clady is a good techician and a fine run blocker, but he's not an exceptional pass blocker. He's average against speed rushers around the edge.

Andre Smith was a lot more impressive in all facets of blocking against tougher competition.

Can I see some cherry-picked film of Clady that proves this?

Orange Cameltoe 12-11-2007 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by thebrad84
What I'm really having a tough time understanding is why you are so desperately trying to convince Planet members that your "boy" is so great and deserves to be All-American? What in the world compels you to join a CHIEFS message board and post nothing but post after post of blabble that is nothing more than a man crush you have on this Andre Smith guy. And at 6-4, 348, that's a BIG crush. NTTATWWT.
I just made a simple statement Andre Smith got snubbed and kskater took a smart ass jab at me. Blame him for this tirade.

Ari ümlaüt 12-11-2007 04:18 PM
örange cameltöe is an ALL AMERICAN speller.


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