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Pasta Little Brioni 09-11-2024 05:28 AM

Imagine having to resort to designed QB runs to beat the Cardinals. I get Lamar going all out on KC but to need every ounce of it to beat one of the 3 worst teams in the league? Allen injured running around like an idiot after 1 game? Uh oh

Meanwhile KC will take it slow all season and have juice left for a 3 peat...

RaidersOftheCellar 09-11-2024 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by KingDiqLix (Post 17672312)
If ifs and butts were candy and nuts.

Bills beat KC in 13 seconds if Butker misses the field goal.

Chiefs lose the Super Bowl last season is Shanahan didn’t go full reread

I think the point was that "the best Bills team ever" shouldn't have struggled with the weak Cardinals at home.

ToxSocks 09-11-2024 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 17673972)
You’re my boy, blue. But Alex won a playoff game in KC. We blew out the Texans 30-0. Where were you at?

Bah i forgot all about it.

RaidersOftheCellar 09-11-2024 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17672442)
Really hope diqlix sticks around long enough for some more crazy antics.

The old guy with the notebook of CP names was my favorite

You just made the list, pal...

RaidersOftheCellar 09-11-2024 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by KingDiqLix (Post 17672586)
We literally existed before you.

At least the non Dallas version of you.

If this was a chicken and egg situation, you’d be the egg. Or maybe it’s the chicken. I don’t recall but you get the point.

As cool as the moaning arm chant is, it doesn’t top Bills Mafia. But I will give you a close 2nd (which is a good thing).

Playing in Arrowhead is intimidating. Playing in Orchard Park feels like just another game.

When Chiefs fans want change, they make it happen (banners, blackouts). Bills Mafia just sobs and continues forking over their paychecks.

17 years without a playoff appearance? A fanbase that accepts mediocrity deserves mediocrity.

RaidersOftheCellar 09-11-2024 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KingDiqLix (Post 17673389)
Yes, as you noticed, there are not-insignificant number of people who feel this way.

Personally, I would not use the word “better” - I would use equal.

If Allen was drafted by KC, he has all the rings that Mahomes has. Thats not to say that Mahomes isn’t great - he is. But he was drafted into the BEST possible situation imaginable:

Mahomes was drafted to a team with:

1) A hall-of-fame offensive coach
2) A team with a hall-of-fame pass catching tight end
3) A team with a hall-of-fame wide receiver talent
4) A team that had made 5 of the last 6 playoffs
5) A team that had PLAYOFF wins with Alex freaking Smith

He was drafted to a DREAM scenario.

Allen on the other hand was drafted to a team with:

1) A rookie defensive head coach
2) A team with zero hall-of-famers
3) A team whose best receiver was Kelvin Benjamin
4) A team who missed 18 of the previous 19 playoffs

Allen was drafted into one of the absolute WORST situations.

If Allen & Mahomes switched draft places, Allen would have the rings and Mahomes would be seen as the 2nd best QB in the NFL. Just the way it is.

So yeah, Mahomes is no better than Allen. They’re equals, but Mahomes was lucky enough to be drafted into an elite situation.

Fact-check:

Who cares about what they inherited? That was 7 years ago. Allen's teams have been just as talented or more so the last few years. Nothing but early exits for Allen and two SBs in that span for Mahomes.

Unbiased sources rated several of Allen's rosters as comparable or better to several of KC's. Sure, Mahomes had a loaded offense his first few years, but Allen sucked at that point anyway and couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.

Allen's defenses have always been far better than Mahomes' until last season. And last season Allen's offensive talent was better.

You claim that Allen inherited one of the worst situations eVEr, and yet that roster went to the playoffs the year before, with TYROD TAYLOR.

In Mahomes' first season, he doubled Alex Smith's numbers (after Smith had by far his best stats ever). Allen's numbers were far WORSE than Tyrod Taylor's the year before.

As mentioned, nobody considered Reid a genius or a massive advantage before Mahomes arrived. He was considered a solid offensive mind who was very flawed in other areas, and a postseason choker. Oh, and there's that little detail that he was fired by Philadelphia. Usually you don't fire HOF coaches that give you a massive advantage over other teams. Last I checked anyway.

Verdict: EPIC FAIL

DrunkBassGuitar 09-11-2024 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 17676153)
Fact-check:

Who cares about what they inherited? That was 7 years ago. Allen's teams have been just as talented or more so the last few years. Nothing but early exits for Allen and two SBs in that span for Mahomes.

Unbiased sources rated several of Allen's rosters as comparable or better to several of KC's. Sure, Mahomes had a loaded offense his first few years, but Allen sucked at that point anyway and couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.

Allen's defenses have always been far better than Mahomes' until last season. And last season Allen's offensive talent was better.

You claim that Allen inherited one of the worst situations eVEr, and yet that roster went to the playoffs the year before, with TYROD TAYLOR.

In Mahomes' first season, he doubled Alex Smith's numbers (after Smith had by far his best stats ever). Allen's numbers were far WORSE than Tyrod Taylor's the year before.

As mentioned, nobody considered Reid a genius or a massive advantage before Mahomes arrived. He was considered a solid offensive mind who was very flawed in other areas, and a postseason choker. Oh, and there's that little detail that he was fired by Philadelphia. Usually you don't fire HOF coaches that give you a massive advantage over other teams. Last I checked anyway.

Verdict: EPIC FAIL

I remember when the worry was that Reid was going to cause Mahomes to be the next Dan Marino

MahomesMagic 09-11-2024 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 17675396)
I think the point was that "the best Bills team ever" shouldn't have struggled with the weak Cardinals at home.

Dick Lix said last year's Buffalo team was "historically great" as well.


;)

Rainbarrel 09-11-2024 03:06 PM

One of his leaps is going to meet an upward thrust of an arm or hand. One too many times

MahomesMagic 09-11-2024 03:28 PM

Imagine living during the time of an actual NFL dynasty in the Kansas City Chiefs and you have to pretend the shitty Bills are good.

Reerun_KC 09-11-2024 03:37 PM

So who wins tomorrow night?

Should be a great game.

O.city 09-11-2024 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingDiqLix (Post 17673389)
Yes, as you noticed, there are not-insignificant number of people who feel this way.

Personally, I would not use the word “better” - I would use equal.

If Allen was drafted by KC, he has all the rings that Mahomes has. Thats not to say that Mahomes isn’t great - he is. But he was drafted into the BEST possible situation imaginable:

Mahomes was drafted to a team with:

1) A hall-of-fame offensive coach
2) A team with a hall-of-fame pass catching tight end
3) A team with a hall-of-fame wide receiver talent
4) A team that had made 5 of the last 6 playoffs
5) A team that had PLAYOFF wins with Alex freaking Smith

He was drafted to a DREAM scenario.

Allen on the other hand was drafted to a team with:

1) A rookie defensive head coach
2) A team with zero hall-of-famers
3) A team whose best receiver was Kelvin Benjamin
4) A team who missed 18 of the previous 19 playoffs

Allen was drafted into one of the absolute WORST situations.

If Allen & Mahomes switched draft places, Allen would have the rings and Mahomes would be seen as the 2nd best QB in the NFL. Just the way it is.

So yeah, Mahomes is no better than Allen. They’re equals, but Mahomes was lucky enough to be drafted into an elite situation.

Ah, ok, yeah about what I figured. This is hilarious.

notorious 09-11-2024 04:39 PM

I find it amusing that Buffalo fan will take a massive shit on their team while defending Josh Allen.

"Josh Allen would have XXX titles if the Chiefs drafted him"

Well, yeah. Thanks for admitting our team is better, and has been the whole time.

MahomesMagic 09-11-2024 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17676360)
I find it amusing that Buffalo fan will take a massive shit on their team while defending Josh Allen.

"Josh Allen would have XXX titles if the Chiefs drafted him"

Well, yeah. Thanks for admitting our team is better, and has been the whole time.


They know they aren't winning shit so they are now Josh super fans and are creating their own storylines about how he is better than Mahomes, just needs better coaching, players, defense, etc


Of course if he really was even equal to Mahomes they should have zero excuses. Mahomes has won with weapons and without. With no defense and last year with defense.

Josh Allen normally chokes.

Pasta Little Brioni 09-11-2024 05:36 PM

Buffalo has declined so much it took running like an idiot getting himself hurt hero ball for Joshy to beat Kyler and the worst roster in football at home...wow


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