RaidersOftheCellar |
09-11-2024 02:33 PM |
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Originally Posted by KingDiqLix
(Post 17673389)
Yes, as you noticed, there are not-insignificant number of people who feel this way.
Personally, I would not use the word “better” - I would use equal.
If Allen was drafted by KC, he has all the rings that Mahomes has. Thats not to say that Mahomes isn’t great - he is. But he was drafted into the BEST possible situation imaginable:
Mahomes was drafted to a team with:
1) A hall-of-fame offensive coach
2) A team with a hall-of-fame pass catching tight end
3) A team with a hall-of-fame wide receiver talent
4) A team that had made 5 of the last 6 playoffs
5) A team that had PLAYOFF wins with Alex freaking Smith
He was drafted to a DREAM scenario.
Allen on the other hand was drafted to a team with:
1) A rookie defensive head coach
2) A team with zero hall-of-famers
3) A team whose best receiver was Kelvin Benjamin
4) A team who missed 18 of the previous 19 playoffs
Allen was drafted into one of the absolute WORST situations.
If Allen & Mahomes switched draft places, Allen would have the rings and Mahomes would be seen as the 2nd best QB in the NFL. Just the way it is.
So yeah, Mahomes is no better than Allen. They’re equals, but Mahomes was lucky enough to be drafted into an elite situation.
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Fact-check:
Who cares about what they inherited? That was 7 years ago. Allen's teams have been just as talented or more so the last few years. Nothing but early exits for Allen and two SBs in that span for Mahomes.
Unbiased sources rated several of Allen's rosters as comparable or better to several of KC's. Sure, Mahomes had a loaded offense his first few years, but Allen sucked at that point anyway and couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.
Allen's defenses have always been far better than Mahomes' until last season. And last season Allen's offensive talent was better.
You claim that Allen inherited one of the worst situations eVEr, and yet that roster went to the playoffs the year before, with TYROD TAYLOR.
In Mahomes' first season, he doubled Alex Smith's numbers (after Smith had by far his best stats ever). Allen's numbers were far WORSE than Tyrod Taylor's the year before.
As mentioned, nobody considered Reid a genius or a massive advantage before Mahomes arrived. He was considered a solid offensive mind who was very flawed in other areas, and a postseason choker. Oh, and there's that little detail that he was fired by Philadelphia. Usually you don't fire HOF coaches that give you a massive advantage over other teams. Last I checked anyway.
Verdict: EPIC FAIL
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