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lewdog 05-11-2014 09:39 PM

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The Royals are considering demoting infielder Mike Moustakas as they open roster space for a reliever, Andy McCullough of the Kansas City Star tweets. It’s been a disappointing season for Moustakas, who’s hitting just .147/.215/.321. The 2007 second-overall pick has struggled since a strong season in 2012 and has been below replacement level in 2014, even though he’s a skilled defensive third baseman.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/0...edium=facebook

TLO 05-11-2014 10:22 PM

So can Gio play 3rd?

-King- 05-11-2014 10:26 PM

Kind of late, but what happened to Omar?

BigCatDaddy 05-11-2014 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 10624903)
So can Gio play 3rd?

Sure can. I'd hope he stays up instead of bringing up a shitty mop up reliever.

TLO 05-11-2014 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10624911)
Sure can. I'd hope he stays up instead of bringing up a shitty mop up reliever.

I'd be fine with it for now. Swapping Gio for Moose will likely hurt us somewhat defensively, but Gio clearly provides better offensive production. (For now)

Prison Bitch 05-11-2014 10:56 PM

If they send Moose down they really have to leave Gio on the roster. They're down to one legit utility guy and Gio fills that role since he can play 2B and 3B. Sucks for platoon splits but Moose wasn't hitting RH either. He's had a long leash as it is, time to wrap that leash around his neck and drag him back to the minors

Why Not? 05-12-2014 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10624941)
If they send Moose down they really have to leave Gio on the roster. They're down to one legit utility guy and Gio fills that role since he can play 2B and 3B. Sucks for platoon splits but Moose wasn't hitting RH either. He's had a long leash as it is, time to wrap that leash around his neck and drag him back to the minors

Yep. The dude is literally an automatic out. Combined with Butters worthlessness this year, it's actual kind of shocking the Royals are even sniffing .500. Maybe Mouse can go pull an Alex Gordon in the minors. I doubt it, but maybe.

Chiefspants 05-12-2014 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 10625016)
Yep. The dude is literally an automatic out. Combined with Butters worthlessness this year, it's actual kind of shocking the Royals are even sniffing .500. Maybe Mouse can go pull an Alex Gordon in the minors. I doubt it, but maybe.

People forget that Alex's output was at least respectable before he was sent down to the Minors (injuries were more of a factor for him than his on the field performance).

Moose is closer to Tony Pena Jr. than he's ever been to Alex.

noa 05-12-2014 08:53 AM

http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/a-l...try-breakfast/
A Less Balanced Country Breakfast
by Chad Young - May 12, 2014

For the past few years, we’ve grown accustomed to a steady diet of high on-base, high-average, moderate power output from Billy Butler. In the early going, 2014 hasn’t been nearly as tasty.

Terrible breakfast puns aside, Butler’s numbers are down across the board, and anyone lining him up in a util slot has got to be concerned. So is Butler a buy low or a guy you should be trying to get rid of?


Let’s start at the surface – a career .297/.362/.454 hitter, good for 15-20 HR (not counting the crazy 2012 season), Butler has kicked off 2014 on pace for 5-6 HR with a .242/.295/.311 line. His .298 BABIP doesn’t scream “bad luck,” but Butler’s career BABIP is .326. His batted ball data shows an increase in line drives and a decrease in fly balls this year, which should lead to a higher, not a lower BABIP, although a big drop in HR/FB rate means that more of those fly balls are staying in play, which definitely hurts.

The thing is, even if we assume a .327 BABIP, that adds three hits. Let’s assume, just to be nice, that they are all doubles. Three more doubles and his line looks like this: .265/.319/.356. So, you know, still really bad.

Part of the problem is that Butler has been striking out far more than normal. His career rate (14.5%) is a bit lower than he has shown the last two years (16.3% in 2012, 15.3% in 2013), but so far this year he is at 20.5%, which dwarfs all his previous numbers. At the same time, his BB% (7.8%) would be his lowest since 2008. I don’t know if anyone has done any research on this, but I’d bet more Ks plus fewer BBs equals less production. Just a hunch.

The problem for Butler seems to be an odd shift in his plate discipline. He is making contact just as well as ever, both in pitches in and out of the zone, but he appears to be swinging at fewer good pitches (59.3%, compared to 62.7% for his career, and on pace to be a career low) and more bad pitches (31.3%, compared to 27.5% for his career, and on pace to be a career high). The result is two-fold.

First, the increased strike out rate is coming despite no meaningful shift in his SwStrk%, which may be partially bad luck, but is also likely due to take pitches for strikes so much more often.

Second, his IFFB% is 9.5%, more than 3x the 3.1% he posted last year, and 50% higher than his career rate of 6.3%. Butler is chasing more pitches and making contact with more bad pitches – bad contact (like, say, infield fly balls) seems like a plausible outcome.

It’s worth noting that the plate discipline numbers I am citing come from Baseball Info Solutions and that that the PitchF/x data for Butler does not show the same discrepancy compared to his career numbers, but the impact is pretty clear.

If you are a Butler owner, or considering getting into the Country Breakfast business, I’d be watching those plate discipline numbers. If Butler keeps chasing, taking strikes, hitting pop ups and striking out, the BABIP regression (and it is coming), won’t be enough to help. If the BIS data isn’t as accurate as PitchF/x, or if Butler starts to show the approach we’ve come to expect, the results should follow.

Personally, I have never felt that Butler’s actual fantasy value matched his perceived fantasy value – util-only bats without much power just aren’t my thing. The troubling approach in the early season would be enough for me to want to sell off any shares I had. I’d push the unexpectedly low BABIP, point out the steady swinging strike rate, and hope to find someone willing to buy on a bounce back.

Butler’s Yahoo Average Draft position was 106.7, near players like Sergio Romo, Brett Lawrie, and Hisashi Iwakuma. If I could turn Butler into one of those players (particularly if I needed a closer, MI if Lawrie qualifies or a SP), I would do it in a heartbeat.
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mr. tegu 05-12-2014 09:18 AM

We cannot continue with just 5 guys for the infield. Esky could use a day off here and there, and clearly so could Infante when he comes back.

Gio needs to stay up regardless if Moose goes down or not. I think he has earned that. On a daily basis we can put one of Valencia, Moose, or Gio at third and then still allow Esky and Infante to have a day off every now and then as well by keeping Gio around.

SPATCH 05-12-2014 09:20 AM

Get Moose the hell away from this team. He has more than played his way off of it.

mr. tegu 05-12-2014 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SPATCH (Post 10625326)
Get Moose the hell away from this team. He has more than played his way off of it.

This isn't inaccurate, but we would need a replacement infielder in my opinion. Five infielders is just not enough. We could really use someone who is comfortable playing first and third base. Imagine Billy at third?

WhawhaWhat 05-12-2014 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 10625340)
This isn't inaccurate, but we would need a replacement infielder in my opinion. Five infielders is just not enough. We could really use someone who is comfortable playing first and third base. Imagine Billy at third?

Alex Gordon has played first before.

SPATCH 05-12-2014 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 10625340)
This isn't inaccurate, but we would need a replacement infielder in my opinion. Five infielders is just not enough. We could really use someone who is comfortable playing first and third base. Imagine Billy at third?

Escobar - SS
Infante - 2B/SS
Valencia - 3B/2B
Gio - 2B/3B
Hosmer - 1B
Butler - 1B

Bowser 05-12-2014 10:00 AM

Time for Christian Colon to get a look if Moose goes down?


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