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duncan_idaho 05-06-2014 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 10605480)
uh...

Was posting on mobile and fat fingered. Meant to say 8 and just didn't see it.

I was with Al... considering what he inherited, it was going to take a long time to rebuild correctly.

Problem is, he brought some dinosaurs with him from the Braves organization to run things, and they ran them poorly.

Minor league pitching development was pretty awful at the high minors. One noted issue is that all pitchers were forced into a fastball, changeup, curveball development schedule, even if they were better suited to throw a slider, unless they were college pitchers with an established arsenal. This was Bill Fischer's regime, and it failed.

I hear better things about development under Mark Davis. Much more individual approach and much more open. I don't know that Ventura develops the same way if he spends 11, 12 and 13 working under Fischer's tent.

And the hitting approach... has been coordinated by Jack Maloof from 2008-until last year, when he had that ill-fated stint as Royals hitting coach.

Maloof is best known for his work with Tony Gwynn and is noted for contact and average work. I'd imagine that organizational philosophy is why so many Royals hitters have a hard time handling inside pitches and hitting for power. But just a guess, there.

Thankfully, Maloof is no longer the hitting coordinator (as far as I can tell).

Strongside 05-06-2014 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10605496)
You're more than welcome to start rooting for the Cardinals and posting in the Cards thread. Passionate baseball fans are always appreciated.

I'll come in, take a fat nasty, and leave. Thanks for the hospitality, though.

Strongside 05-06-2014 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10605544)
The National League isn't real baseball.

Neither is Royals baseball, so it's convenient.

Pablo 05-06-2014 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 10605553)
I'll come in, take a fat nasty, and leave. Thanks for the hospitality, though.

It's impossible to root for the Cards if you've ever called the Royals your team.

Too much bound up resentment and jealousy to ever make that switch.

Pablo 05-06-2014 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 10605555)
Neither is Royals baseball, so it's convenient.

This is also true.

WilliamTheIrish 05-06-2014 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 10605687)
It's impossible to root for the Cards if you've ever called the Royals your team.

Too much bound up resentment and jealousy to ever make that switch.

You know, it wasn't hard for me prior to 1985. My mom and family had close StL ties. Went to a lot of games in old Busch Stadium. KMOX radio could be picked up in Topeka on the right night and WREN radio was a broadcast affiliate in Topeka for many years.
My mom worked at Sportsmans Park as a teen. But that series turned me off StL forever.

Right now, I'm not sure if I dislike the Royals or the Cards more. I think I hate the Royals more.

stonedstooge 05-06-2014 05:28 PM

Cool, we're the underdogs again. Great position to sneak in and win the division

Three7s 05-06-2014 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10605499)
I have a question about the Royals' hitting approach:

What is their organizational philosophy? Do they want their hitter to be patient or attack the first hittable pitch? Also, do they want their hitters to pull the ball if it's in the middle or further in, or do they want their hitters to wait until the ball is deep into the zone to drive it the other way?

Thanks.

As of right now? I'd say it's look for the first hittable pitch and hit it. They don't really show any patience unless it's an obvious part of the game-plan, and there's little to no pitch recognition by any of the players in the lineup with the exception of Infante.

Deberg_1990 05-06-2014 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10605083)
I'm just tired of Glass and Dayton remaining so silent. I mean, how can they find this crap acceptable? put some ultimatums on your team.

It would be different if this was only the 2nd or 3rd year of a rebuild. expectations were to make the playoffs, not just be happy your at the MLB level.
Posted via Mobile Device

I was wrong. Dayton spoke today! Hooray! Same old song and dance.

NO need to panic Royals Fans. Patience....

:facepalm:




SAN DIEGO — Fresh off a crushing extra-innings defeat on Monday night, Royals manager Dayton Moore preached the necessity of accountability with his wayward club.



But do not expect sweeping changes in the wake of a five-game losing streak.

Instead, Moore stressed in a telephone conversation Tuesday afternoon, the team remains committed to their current crop of players and coaching staff.

Moore has placed his faith – and staked his reputation – on the ability of the on-field personnel to adjust their approach in the face of adversity.

“As a team, our players, our coaching staff and our front office have all shared a level of frustration with a 14-17 start,” Moore said. “We know we’re capable of being much better. We understand where our deficiencies are. And we’re working through them.”

From his seat, Moore believes their chief deficiency is obvious. He cited a lack of production and a spate of over-aggression when batting with runners in scoring position. Night after night, the players struggle to capitalize in these spots, he said.

“The truth of the matter is we are where we are because we have failed to have quality at-bats in RBI situations,” Moore said.

The Royals rank 24th in the majors with a .648 on-base plus slugging percentage with runners in scoring position. They are also one of baseball’s least effective clubs at putting runners there. The team ranks 22nd in on-base percentage (.307) and 25th in slugging percentage (.364).

The lack of offensive production is a chronic, continual issue for this club. It was also the source of their decline in 2013, when an 8-20 record in May sunk the team’s playoff hopes. The Royals are now 0-5 this May.

Moore indicated he had no intention of making changes to the coaching staff, and stressed his confidence in manager Ned Yost and hitting coach Pedro Grifol.

Yost received a two-year extension after 2013. Moore also said there was no plan to expand the role of George Brett, who joined the staff as a temporary hitting coach last May and still serves as an advisor.

“George is involved,” Moore said. “He may not be in the dugout or on the field, but George is in constant communication with Pedro, myself, whoever. When George is at the game, we sit up there and we look at video and we talk about hitters. He’s back and forth with Pedro.”

The changes are expected to be more subtle. Moore seeks more patience from his hitters. He expects the team’s core of Eric Hosmer, Billy Butler and Alex Gordon to produce in RBI situations. He is frustrated with their lack of results when swinging at 3-0 pitches, but does not want the organization to place restrictions on players.

“You don’t want to have your hitters go up there and have everything scripted out on what they can and can’t do,” Moore said. “They’re major-league hitters. They have to have a certain level of freedom and ownership of their at-bat. It’s their at-bat. It belongs to them. And they’re accountable to the team.”

He added, “I know how Ned manages. He’s given guys a little more freedom right now. If it doesn’t turn around . . .”

There are few tweaks available to the roster. The farm system is bereft of top-flight talent at the upper levels. The Royals lack the funds necessary to pursue the two premier remaining free agents, infielder Stephen Drew and first baseman Kendrys Morales, according to people familiar with the situation. And it is too early in the season for serious trade discussions.

Thus, for the immediate future, the composition of the 2014 Royals will not change.

“We believed in this team in November of 2013,” Moore said. “We made some adjustments to this baseball team, we made some additions that we felt good about prior to spring training. When we left spring training, we felt positive about this team. And after 31 games, there’s no reason not to remain very positive about the 2014 season.”

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2014/05/06...#storylink=cpy

Three7s 05-06-2014 06:36 PM

:LOL:

Al Bundy 05-06-2014 06:44 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Kyle Zimmer had some mild soreness &amp; his first XST start of the year now pushed to next week. <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals">@Royals</a> hope to have in peak form in Aug/Sept.</p>&mdash; Jim Callis (@jimcallisMLB) <a href="https://twitter.com/jimcallisMLB/statuses/463832310471614465">May 7, 2014</a></blockquote>
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gblowfish 05-06-2014 08:05 PM

I'm sure George is thrilled at having his name dragged into this shitfest again this year...

lewdog 05-06-2014 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 10605958)
I'm sure George is thrilled at having his name dragged into this shitfest again this year...

If George can be drunk and be an asshole to everyone, he doesn't give a flying **** how this team performs.

Prison Bitch 05-06-2014 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 10605742)
You know, it wasn't hard for me prior to 1985. My mom and family had close StL ties. Went to a lot of games in old Busch Stadium. KMOX radio could be picked up in Topeka on the right night and WREN radio was a broadcast affiliate in Topeka for many years.
My mom worked at Sportsmans Park as a teen. But that series turned me off StL forever.

Right now, I'm not sure if I dislike the Royals or the Cards more. I think I hate the Royals more.

Oh rubbish. My mom grew up outside stl and her and her siblings listened to that old hack Jack Buck in the day. All her kids are big Royals fans growing up here. I'd poke my eyes out with hot needles before I ever rooted for those shitheads out east.

WilliamTheIrish 05-06-2014 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10605976)
Oh rubbish. My mom grew up outside stl and her and her siblings listened to that old hack Jack Buck in the day. All her kids are big Royals fans growing up here. I'd poke my eyes out with hot needles before I ever rooted for those shitheads out east.

By all means, go all Louis Braille on yourself.


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