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ChiTown 05-06-2014 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 10605256)

Nobody is accountable in this organization.
And THAT, right there, is the problem.

WilliamTheIrish 05-06-2014 12:50 PM
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Another area where Moore wants to see improvement is the team's pattern of swinging at pitches out of the zone. The Royals, according to FanGraphs, swing at an above-average rate (30.4 percent) of pitches outside the zone, which is never a good idea for a team that is last in the league in homers (13) and has a woeful .307 on-base percentage (13th out of 15 AL teams).

"That has been addressed, too," Moore said. "Pedro and Ned are working with the hitters every day on their approach, whether it's being ahead in the count, having two strikes on you, or whatever
Oh this is good. Ned is working with the hitters. Let's also put the space program in the hands of Chiefsshrink. God will get us to Mars.

siberian khatru 05-06-2014 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 10605256)
Why should the players be accountable? You're not. You certainly don't hold that galactic ****wit Ned accountable. It's time to sit some players who are not producing.

Nobody is accountable in this organization.
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Moustakas is a good defensive third baseman, but he is an awful big league hitter. The first half of 2012 is the only time he did anything well hitting .268/.327/.490 over 327 plate appearances. Since then he has come to the plate 906 times managing a horrible .218/.274/.349 line.
http://kingsofkauffman.com/2014/05/0...akas-needs-go/

DeezNutz 05-06-2014 12:57 PM
Strike zone awareness cannot be taught at the ML level.

siberian khatru 05-06-2014 12:58 PM
Even Jim Fetterolf thinks Moose should be sent down.

ChiTown 05-06-2014 01:13 PM
PATIENCE!
 
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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 10605310)
Even Jim Fetterolf thinks Moose should be sent down.
...It's a process....

Prison Bitch 05-06-2014 01:15 PM
It is weird that a guy like DM that loves contact hitters so much would play Moose over Gio. It's totally unlike him.

Deberg_1990 05-06-2014 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10605358)
It is weird that a guy like DM that loves contact hitters so much would play Moose over Gio. It's totally unlike him.
Moose was Moores first draft pick right? He's going to get every available opportunity, even if it kills the team.

siberian khatru 05-06-2014 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 10605353)
...It's a process....

Not "a" process but The Process™

duncan_idaho 05-06-2014 01:52 PM
Moose was the first legit Moore pick. Varying levels of belief on how involved he was in selecting Hochevar.

But it belies a bigger problem to focus on Moose: they are too loyal and have too much faith in ALL their guys.

Btw, Bubba Starling scouting reports keep getting worse. BP had something on him this morning in which he was called Drew Stubbs-lite.

Three7s 05-06-2014 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10605410)
Moose was the first legit Moore pick. Varying levels of belief on how involved he was in selecting Hochevar.

But it belies a bigger problem to focus on Moose: they are too loyal and have too much faith in ALL their guys.

Btw, Bubba Starling scouting reports keep getting worse. BP had something on him this morning in which he was called Drew Stubbs-lite.
And it's going to kill them. If they keep up this trend, can you see Moore getting fired and having to rebuild anew?...Again.

Prison Bitch 05-06-2014 02:02 PM
Yes Moose is DMs love child no doubt. But remember, Gio was drafted in the next class (Hosmers) as a second rounder so he's also DMs spawn.

Fansy the Famous Bard 05-06-2014 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10605149)
The farm system was such a barren dumpster fire when DM was hired, that in my view it was basically impossible for the Royals to win in the first 3 years, no matter what.

So, I'm treating this as basically the 3rd year where its fair to judge the GM. That said, the first year we lost, the second year we traded Wil Myers for 2 years of Shields and won 86 games but failed to make the playoffs, and so far this year isn't very encouraging, so I'm not going to bother defending him unless we make the playoffs.

edit: we're in much better shape now, so if Glass were to hypothetically fire DM after this year or in 2015, I'd start judging the new GM's W/L results immediately.
Isn't this Dayton's 9th year with the club?

duncan_idaho 05-06-2014 02:31 PM
He was hired in 2006, but mid-season. 2007, 08, 09, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 is 7 years.

Deberg_1990 05-06-2014 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10605469)
He was hired in 2006, but mid-season. 2007, 08, 09, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 is 7 years.
I could be wrong, but it feels like there is starting to be a pattern under DMs regime.

1 year where they sort of overachieve and set high expectations for the next season, followed by a down year of underachieving. Am i dreaming? Wash, rinse, repeat....


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