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Prison Bitch 05-06-2014 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10604975)
Because I'm not a bandwagon fan who just roots for teams because they're good?

Did you at least go to school there? Or are you another t-shirt fan?

I'm not going to root for a football or baseball team that isn't local. So that leaves Royals and Chiefs (I liked the Cardinals/loved the Royals until spending 8 years living around Cardinals fan at Mizzou/in St. Louis. Still like and respect the team, but hate their t-shirt, front-runner fans. Note: This does not include all fans or passionate fans, with whom I enjoy talking baseball.)

And I'm certainly going to root for my alma mater in college sports. Guys that have "secondary" teams or that root for a team other than their alma mater are front runners. And I'd rather not watch sports than be that (that's what was ingrained in me by my family, my dad included. I'm a 4x legacy graduate of Mizzou).

I'm an alum. And yes, everyone roots for their school obv. My point on that was there are many regional choices on where to attend college or who to root for....but only 1 choice for MLB or NFL. You and I were born into that mess no doubt. It's very frustrating.


The Royals are my favorite team and its my favorite pro sport which makes it worse. For those on the board who marginally follow them it's not that annoying but for me at least, I can't fathom why we suck for decades on end. The laws of probability would make this run of suck hardly do-able.

alnorth 05-06-2014 12:18 PM

College - Kansas, went to school there
MLB - Royals
NFL - Chiefs, used to be the Cowboys. (My dad is a Cowboys fan, so I legitimately could have went that way, but sometime in high school I decided to switch because the Chiefs were local, and once I switched, it was for good, none of this having a favorite NFC team nonsense. I no longer care about Dallas)
NBA - don't care, won't follow it even if KC gets a team
NHL - don't care, won't follow it even if KC gets a team

siberian khatru 05-06-2014 12:21 PM

http://msn.foxsports.com/kansas-city...dressed-050614

'Frustrated' Moore says Royals' poor offensive approach has been addressed


KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Royals general manager Dayton Moore sees the same thing Royals fans are seeing -- a team that is just not producing enough runs to reach its expectation of being a playoff contender.

"I'm as frustrated as anyone," Moore told FOXSportsKansasCity.com by phone. "It's very simple why we're not winning as much as we should be -- we're getting plenty of base runners but just not driving them in.

"(Monday) was another example. What did we have, 19 base runners? That's a game we dominated but couldn't get enough runs home. Our ability to get runs home has to improve. Period."

As the Royals' slide reached five games Monday night, the question becomes: What can Moore do to help the situation?

A trade seems unlikely at this point.

"There's not a lot you can do because there aren't a lot of players available (for a trade) right now," Moore said. "And I still have a lot of faith in the guys we have."


And Moore isn't about to swap out hitting coaches again. After firing Kevin Seitzer after the 2012 season and then reassigning Seitzer's replacements -- Jack Maloof and Andre David -- last May, Moore plans on sticking with hitting coach Pedro Grifol for now.

"It's the players who have to be accountable," Moore said. "And they are and they will be. I know Pedro and Ned (Yost) are working on (the hitters') approach all the time. That approach has to get better, too.

"It's quite simple for us. We need to be having our best at-bats when it matters most, when runners are in scoring position, and that's not happening now."

The Royals are hitting just .241 with runners in scoring position. With two outs and RISP, the number is even more grim -- .211.

"That's the time when, as a group, you have to concentrate and come up with your best at-bat," Moore said. "I get that we want to be aggressive and make things happen. But you also have to be selective and wait for your pitch to do some damage. That's not happening right now."

One area that likely will change immediately is the Royals' penchant for hacking at 3-0 pitches. The Royals now have swung at six 3-0 pitches and have just one hit, a seeing-eye single by Nori Aoki. The five other swings actually have resulted in six outs -- one swing produced a double play.

"The results of that are unacceptable," Moore said firmly. "That (situation) has been addressed. Pedro and Ned understand that."

Another area where Moore wants to see improvement is the team's pattern of swinging at pitches out of the zone. The Royals, according to FanGraphs, swing at an above-average rate (30.4 percent) of pitches outside the zone, which is never a good idea for a team that is last in the league in homers (13) and has a woeful .307 on-base percentage (13th out of 15 AL teams).

"That has been addressed, too," Moore said. "Pedro and Ned are working with the hitters every day on their approach, whether it's being ahead in the count, having two strikes on you, or whatever.

"But sure, we know it has to get better. I still believe this group of guys will hit."


Overall, Moore said the team hasn't really come close to playing the type of baseball he anticipated.

"We're just not there right now," he said. "This is not the start we expected. If you look at the whole, we're getting very good starting pitching. (James) Shields and (Jason) Vargas had a couple of rough starts over the weekend, but that's normal regression. It will build back up.

"The bullpen, for the most part, has been good to very good. They've given up runs, but all bullpens give up runs at some points. The bullpen has been strong.

"What has held us back has been the inability to produce runs with runners in scoring position. Once that gets better, we'll get better. It's early May -- a lot of baseball left."

As for the team's rough 0-5 start in May and any comparisons to the 8-20 May from a year ago, Moore said: "We're just not playing well right now. It has nothing to do with the calendar. But we need to start getting some wins right now."

You can follow Jeffrey Flanagan on Twitter at @jflanagankc or email him at jeffreyflanagan6@gmail.com.

siberian khatru 05-06-2014 12:21 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>&quot;It&#39;s very simple why we&#39;re not winning as much as we should be -- we&#39;re getting plenty of base runners but just not driving them in.&quot;</p>&mdash; Rany Jazayerli (@jazayerli) <a href="https://twitter.com/jazayerli/statuses/463735567616733184">May 6, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>The Royals currently rank 13th in the American League in OBP.</p>&mdash; Rany Jazayerli (@jazayerli) <a href="https://twitter.com/jazayerli/statuses/463735707014406144">May 6, 2014</a></blockquote>
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gblowfish 05-06-2014 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10605083)
I'm just tired of Glass and Dayton remaining so silent. I mean, how can they find this crap acceptable? put some ultimatums on your team.

It would be different if this was only the 2nd or 3rd year of a rebuild. expectations were to make the playoffs, not just be happy your at the MLB level.
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How can you not be happy? What exactly do you expect from a Major League Baseball Team?

Ebolapox 05-06-2014 12:24 PM

ROFL @ the rany tweet. fark.

siberian khatru 05-06-2014 12:24 PM

"OBP? What kind of advanced metric is that?" /Dayton Moore

alnorth 05-06-2014 12:27 PM

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"It's quite simple for us. We need to be having our best at-bats when it matters most, when runners are in scoring position, and that's not happening now."

The Royals are hitting just .241 with runners in scoring position. With two outs and RISP, the number is even more grim -- .211.

"That's the time when, as a group, you have to concentrate and come up with your best at-bat," Moore said. "I get that we want to be aggressive and make things happen. But you also have to be selective and wait for your pitch to do some damage. That's not happening right now."
I'm a little more worried after reading that. Some of that stuff might sound good, but I've always believed that your approach at the plate should generally be consistent no matter what the situation is, with some exceptions for strategic purposes (sacrifice bunt/fly, hitting it to the right side to get a guy to 3rd, etc). If you go into an at-bat with a whole different approach just because someone's at second base, you are more likely to screw yourself up.

gblowfish 05-06-2014 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 10605189)
"OBP? What kind of advanced metric is that?" /Dayton Moore

Yikes....that quote is pretty damn scary when you think of it.

DeezNutz 05-06-2014 12:33 PM

Rany has the ability to de-pants DM at a whim. So, so sad that our GM has absolutely no ****ing clue about how to assess the modern game.

Prison Bitch 05-06-2014 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 10605220)
Rany has the ability to de-pants DM at a whim. So, so sad that our GM has absolutely no ****ing clue about how to assess the modern game.

Rany the dude who wanted us to drop 125m on Carl Crawford?

WilliamTheIrish 05-06-2014 12:39 PM

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A trade seems unlikely at this point.
**** you, Dayton Whoore.

DeezNutz 05-06-2014 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10605225)
Rany the dude who wanted us to drop 125m on Carl Crawford?

Oh, noes, are you suggesting that an analyst doesn't get everything right all of the time????

WilliamTheIrish 05-06-2014 12:45 PM

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It's the players who have to be accountable
Why should the players be accountable? You're not. You certainly don't hold that galactic ****wit Ned accountable. It's time to sit some players who are not producing.

Nobody is accountable in this organization.

Prison Bitch 05-06-2014 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 10605247)
Oh, noes, are you suggesting that an analyst doesn't get everything right all of the time????

That wasn't a mistake. It was a major knee slapper. That would've hamstrung our franchise for years financially. It was a terrible idea


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