I think at this point only one person is disappointed in him. I also think at this point he is trolling and purposely being obtuse. This kid has been impressive this year and has only gotten better as the season has progressed. This is even more impressive because most rookies hit a wall because of the longer schedule vs college. He hasn’t and is getting better by the week.

I think water polo probably requires a lot of stamina so it makes sense

I'm not disappointed, but a lot of people seem to be suggesting he's exceeded their expectations (might be misreading them) and I don't really see that at all.

He's exceeded expectations for the overwhelming majority of rookie DEs

To see how he stacks up with Watts rookie year was a serious eye opener, but if anyone expected him to come in here as a 10-15 sack, game wrecking tour de force as a rookie... they were fools

Swimmers tend to have very good stamina and great core strength, especially water polo players because of all the endless treading water with pretty much just their legs. One of the reasons I thought he could do well, just because he wouldn't get tired as quickly as a typical football player.

The craziest part about this whole post is that apparently the Texans played in 2 playoff games in the same season. Insane.

I told yall,

I've been in Houston since 97' so I had him on my screen alot. (2010/11) Now he doesn't have the body of JJ, but he is strong already in his own right.

George's late season surge reminded me of JJ Watt's. Now if he goes into the playoffs and has a pick six and 2 sacks first game... I will cum my pants.

Once BV puts another badass on the other edge, this defense is going to make this team unstoppable.

Speed rusher preferably.

Love the youth in the back end of the defense: Gay, Bolton, Sneed, McDuffie, Cook, Watson, Williams…a lot to be excited about. All drafted by the Chiefs too.

I’m all for extending Jones at the right price. Karlaftis appears to be another really nice piece.

Anyone upset with GK at this point in the season is just a hater.

The last half of the season he has really been a force for the defense.

And it's exciting to think about how good he will be next year.

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Oh I completely agree re those expectations, but there's no way there's not plenty of people who weren't expecting more than 5.5 sacks at this point, and fewer missed tackles. There was a better way to write that sentence but you get my point!

If Karlaftis disappears in the playoffs like he did against the Bills and Bengals, and goes back to JAG play then yeah that's where he'll stay as an average player because if he has any juice he'll overachieve in the postseason

I feel like some in this thread would get hard if he flops in the playoffs. Not many, but a few would/wood.

I want to be proven wrong, but there has been alot of caveats and different interpretations of how he's played outside of the Pre-Season and Seattle game which were indisputably good.

YOU JUST GUARANTEED HE WINS SUPER BOWL MVP THANKS YOU ****ING DIPSHIT

Are you sure about that or have you sealed his doom for overselling him.

Sam Williams has zero sacks and 2 QB hits since November 13th

He was in a car accident and hasn't played. Hopefully it isn't a Percy Snow situation.

BTW, you said that the passrush was ass during the Broncos GDT.

Absolutely. There's a group here that jerks off to misery.

Good thing we didn't draft him then. Meanwhile, George has been balling.

Lolwut? Williams only missed a week. He's already been back and playing.

karlaftis doubters in shambles

Fantastic draft pick

That sack was all McDuffie ;-)

Come take your L Tribal Warfare

Lol wut?

He's only missed week 16 recently.

It’s weird. It’s almost like it doesn’t make sense to write off a player after half his rookie season.

LMAO What a douche

Damn it, Karl????????

He wrote him off before he even played a down.

It's great that he's finally getting the sacks instead of the hurries, but even more than that the kid is actually a playmaker. Leads the NFL in batted balls if I'm remembering right and he usually is in the right place to pounce on an offensive miscue

He’s trolling at this point. It’s why he’s doubling down on his nonsense. George is clowning the guy he wanted.

Doesn't he have 2 fumbles recoveries now too?

He made two nice plays, but several missed tackles and was just outran by Stidham a backup who's imploding.

Yeah, that's why I had the end note there as well. He hasn't caused any yet from what I remember but he's pretty damn good at securing them.

People kept saying that his pressures would eventually turn into sacks and we are all starting to see the fruits of that. Love the progress he has shown.

Six sacks in 7 games. Plus he has a FR today. Either you are trolling like I said or you are allowing your bias to cloud your faulty judgment.

"I'll be happy to be wrong"

You've proven that was horseshit, because you'll never even admit that you were wrong unless he's in the HOF.

Chris Jones, you are not factoring in who he's lining up with. Karlaftis has had a ok game against the Raiders but don't get it confused he has had more negative plays to make this game "nuanced" or subjective.

Mahomes outran Crosby and he has been mostly absent this game and this is against two of the worst tackles in the league. Is he trash as well?

His first 8 games versus his last 8 games are like night and day. His switch flipped and he hasn’t looked back. Guy is going to be a stud.

You answered your question, it's against Mahomes

I did? I am curious your answer. Commit to an answer. Is Crosby trash?

Bro, he's 21 years old. He's playing like this on the back half of his rookie year with TONS of room to grow, and you're not the slightest bit excited? Hell, you're not even ****ing encouraged by the improvement he's shown over the year.

There's no helping you. You're stuck in the mire of your own dumbassery until you decide to crawl out and go, "Ooops looks like Karlaftis is a good player. Can't win'em all lol!" And when you do, don't expect that people will just instantly forget how big of an idiot you were.

LOL, we can go back to anyone's takes about certain players like yours with Lucas Niang being a possible Future Franchise LT.

Everybody has had dumbass takes, but truly hyperbolic posters hides and projects.

Dude shut up. He’s a 21 year old with 6.5 sacks, most batted passes in the league and is also a good run defender.

He’s absolutely met expectations of every reasonable fan except for you who apparently wants him to be DT

Well,i for one am very excited the KC Chiefs selected George K. Especially since they are my favorite football team to root for.

This isn't a dumbass take like, "I think unproven rookie has potential to be a good starter." This is you looking at the evidence in the face and being a squirrely dipshit about it.

Evidence like it's the Raiders tapping out with a backup QB and not allowing Carr to finish the season.

Take your L. You look very pathetic.

You have a point to a degree; I thought Tanoh could be an elite pass rusher...

but, YOU...

Just hate this kid for reasons that are beyond me

I keep coming back to this thread to see if Tribal has finally STFU about this.

I never said I hated or believe he's horrible, just don't make more than he is

Sacks only count if the QB is Josh Allen and he’s protected by Anthony Munoz.

Correct. George is exactly Reggie White. No more. No less.

Let’s be realistic guys.

You're consistently posting your disappointment with him in a thread dedicated to him; how else would you qualify that?

Evidence like... oh, I don't know... comparing where he was at the beginning of the year to now? You know... improvement? Considering that he's undergone this improvement as a 21 year old? In particular how much he's improved upon the red flags coming out of college? Then taking into consideration the maturation process for DEs as a position across the league and how it often takes a little longer for them to arrive as great players?

Literally the only thing you've got is "But t3h mistakez!!!!" as if Maxx Crosby didn't just have a bunch of bad missed tackles in this very game taking place right now. That's kind of what happens to most of even the very good DL guys.

If you didn't have this stupid emotional investment in being right, you could have just ignored this thread at the midseason point, and nobody would have said, "Hey wait a minute! TW was critical of Karlaftis!!! Let's get him!" When I'm wrong about a player, I typically don't double down when they prove me wrong, especially if they play for the Chiefs because I see every game they play. That's what you're not doing.

Above all, don't compare me saying, "Niang has a chance to be our starting LT" in his first season after he opted out to you pooh-poohing every ****ing play that Karlaftis makes.

If I hated the kid I'd post 1st in this thread when he disappears.

Posters who call him Justin Smith or Tamba Hali 2.0 are the individuals you should galvanize.

That's a bitchfit boys & girls

Just take the L. I'll even throw in the towel for you

That's a tapout, boys and girls

What?

I'm not trying to galvanize anyone (odd choice of verbiage)

I'm just happier when the Chiefs are good as opposed to when the Chiefs are bad.

OK BYE

I got to thinking about his water polo studliness. I swam competitively and water polo would kick my ass!

Someone earlier spoke about water polo and builds leg strength and core. I am thinking it also helps in batted balls. Similar skill set.

I was of the opinion for linemen to have a background in wrestling/judo. I might be thinking a state champ in wrestling that has a black belt in judo that is on a water polo team:)

George had a pretty good game. Maybe his best one of the season. Whatever the case might be, he showed up today in splashy fashion from start to finish. I believe he'll have himself a great playoff run.

Where the idiots who called this dude a bust?

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The injury to La'el Collins could decide the AFC.

Tribal acting like he's some draft guru and throwing a fit that the Chiefs didn't draft the guy he wanted them to, so he's going to exaggerate the success of the guy he wanted and downplay the guy the Chiefs actually took.

Lol you're just some fat **** know nothing on a message board. The fact that you are holding a grudge just makes you really pathetic. Sad life man.

Players that had around 7 sacks in their rookie season.

Tj Watt
Myles Garrett
Brian Burns
Chandler Jones
Chase Young

Cam Jordan had one sack in his rookie year, Khalil Mack got four, Trey Hendrickson got two, Matthew Judon got four, Alex Highsmith two etc etc. So George is really on track with a lot of the elite edge rushers we see today. And the great thing is he's a young guy still at just 21 years old.

Hey, I just noticed while watching the game highlights. Watch George's hand-fighting. I think he's significantly quicker, more precise, and more violent than the beginning of the season. That rush he had that he ended up picking up the fumble, he karate chops the LT's hands out of the way.

George had a great game today, and has six sacks in seven games. He is getting better at the right time of the season, and it is great to see.

Won’t happen. He’s borderline woman like in his insistence on standing his ground and refusing to admit he is wrong.

He has really turned it on.

The way he's been playing, I can't wait for Cinci to try to keep a double on Chris Jones the way they usually do

He's definitely turning it on at the right time of the season. Add another DE on the other side for next season, and it's game on. It's already pretty damn good. :rockon:

He’s playing the run fantastically as well. Had a TFL and sets the edge great. I’m getting more and more excited about his future.

*gets caught up on thread*

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Karlaftis is the ideal 2nd year breakout player. He’s only 21 years old and didn’t really start in an NFL caliber environment until training camp.

I think he can now use the entire off-season to work with guys like Chris Jones, Tamba Hali, etc to continue improving his hand usage and technique.

Now he can also work on his strength in an NFL program. I think he is gonna work on increasing his speed physically by cutting some weight and replacing it with muscle.

This guy has is gonna be a double-digit sack player. Can’t wait to see his growth next year.

I accredit all his success to Frank Clark teaching him that hellacious spin move.