I watch a lot of their games, as my wife is an alum. They can’t score for shit, and their conference is a joke compared to big12.

But yes they do play good d for sure


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That was pretty much my thought as well

Yeah, the metrics suggest their offense is trash too. Slow defensive teams like SDSU always give me a bit of worry though ever since that UNI game in 2010. We’ve had some pretty good practice at that this year though with UT and Tech.

He believes in them until they get down 6 to anyone. No big deal there.

We should beat SDSU easily but ya they arent someone you really wanna play in the 8/9 game. No complaints with the bracket otherwise.

Iowa is by far the best 5 seed, particularly the last 15 games. They are #13 in Kenpom.

Yeah but they play fast, cant defend, have no rim protector. Not a team that really gives us problems.

LMAO

Great now SDSU is the best rd32 team ever.

That didn’t take long.

Just for you.

I have them in the F4 against either TN or Nova.

Can’t decide on that one yet.

If they can’t beat that team, there ain’t a chance in hell of making the final 4 this year, little own a championship.

We will have to beat at least 2 legitimate teams on neutral courts to get there. An under talented but scrappy team had better not give us any issues this year. We have played a lot of scrappy defensive teams this year with way more talent than that team.

Easy bracket for KU going to the final 4

ROFL

Nothing is ever easy

I mean that’s not really the way this works. The 2010 team was by far the best team in the country but caught a bad draw in R2 with an exceedingly slow defensive team and played an even worse game and they were out. It happens in single elimination format to even the best of them. And it could easily happen to this version of KU too (which is far worse than 2010).

KU is going to beat SDSU about 7 or 8 times out of 10 but next weekend might not be one of this times. Anyway, we are getting ahead of ourselves. No guarantee KU or SDSU make it there.

Ok... LMAO. Who knows, I hope if we do play the Kansaa players are overlooking Iowa as well. Iowa has given everyone problems the last 2 months as they have figured it out offensively and defensively against multiple styles. Kansas obviously would be the favorite, but Iowa by far is the best 5 seed in any of the brackets.

Agreed. If they don’t make the FF then I’m becoming a Nebrasketball fan

We're the late night game on Thursday (latest as possible actually at 9:57ET). Works for me as I can't take any days off this week.

Remember 2012? We played in the last possible time slot in every single round all the way to the title game. It was a very sleepy few weeks at work.

I know it’s a single elimination game. Any given Sunday applies to all sports and especially in this tourney. Teams overlook others. Have bad days and you’re going home. But, that wasn’t my point.

I don’t remember playing this many scrappy in your face physical defensive teams in one year. I think this team, this year can handle that upset minded team better than previous years. Also if Harris/Braun/Wilson are having a bad shooting game, Remy can come in and spark them.

Where did you read that?

Apparently everyone on earth has Iowa going to the E8

I'd be curious to know if any team that's lost to Rutgers has ever gone to the E8... much less 48-46.

Life is too short to wake up before 10 or 11am.

That was such an excruciating run, yet satisfying in that it was relatively unexpected... those games against Purdue and NC State and OSU probably took years off my life, then there was such a great win against UNC.

By the time they got to the NC game against a team who's bench probably would have come in 2nd in the SEC behind their starters, all I could do was crack open a bomber of Boulevard Bourbon Barrel Quad and hope for a miracle.

Yeah that team was loaded. I remember how Thomas Robinson and Jeff Withey could barely even get minutes behind the Morris Twins and Aldrich. Absolutely stacked front court.

Read what? That's what that team was. Had 8 NBA players on it.

I dont think Withey was on the 2010 team, if he was he was sitting out the year after transferring but think that was 2011.

I was in Mexico on vacation for a lot of that, so it worked for me. Not gonna work for me this time around.

He was. He played in 15 games that year.

Yeah it's great you don't have to worry about basketball interfering with any of your plans

Ah, it’s from your scouting reports you drew up back when. Got it.


Trivia Time!!!!! Who is older: Bill Self or “Makers Mark” Few?

So we got a good draw? We getting to the FF or what? anyone confident?

We are the best team in our region. Pretty easy draw. So we probably have a 25% to 30% chance to make the Final Four.

I would have been more confident last year even with the worst draw of all time. We were clearly the best team in college Bb last year.

yeah even if you’re the best team in the region, stuff still has to go your way. The numbers are probably accurate.

So we're confident we could come out on top in a rematch with Kentucky?

Me? No.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...s-predictions/

36% chance of FF per 538.

Kentucky has to get through Baylor and Gonzaga first. Good luck.

Yep. Should be less usually but our region is so favorable. Baylor is virtually as good or better than KU in many predictive metrics and they are only 14% to make the Final Four in part to how hard their region is.

I see you are still confused. There were 8 guys who actually played in the NBA.

I was excited until I saw SDSU in the Rd32. I had KU I My FF until then.

Not sure how much Vegas will favor SDSU by, but it won’t be enough.

Pretty much free money there.

I agree with your main point about KU having experience this year against several tough, physical defensive minded teams. But that No. Iowa team he referenced was also a slow, plodding type of offensive team. Seemed like they just ran down the shot clock every possession and then took a shot. And they made them. :mad: Of course, it didn't help that Sherron Collins had perhaps his worst game as a Jayhawk. You need better than that from your senior leader. You listening, Ochai?

Last year? :spock:

Or did you mean 2020?

Jayhawks were clearly the best team in college basketball last year? Did Jayhawks win the championship last year?

I don’t blame BigRedChief for blocking last year out of his memory entirely

We should, but as the NCAA tourney goes, ya never know! We've had better teams not make it and worst teams that did.

Assuming they beat winner of VT/Purdue, I’m not afraid of anyone our (Kentucky’s) region, including Baylor.

They’d lose to Gonzaga, I think. Holmgren would be a nightmare and Grady, Tyty, and Wheeler would have to have their best 3 shooting game performance on the same day.

If we somehow rematches against Kansas fully healthy, I wouldn’t expect a blowout win, but I don’t see why the result would change in terms of who’d win.

Jayhawk is always talking about clearly being the best, blah blah. Then they lose in the tournament in devastating, soul crushing defeat and within 24 hours they start talking the same nonsense all over again for the following year. KU fan lives a delusional existence.

Awesome! Our resident idiotic Shocker fan is here to bash another man's team and hasn't the ability to prop his own team up for our viewing!

The thing is, as a sports fan of any team, any where there are good knowledge and and the bad unknowledgeable fans. So why don't you run along and continue to pretend you are of the knowledgeable Shocker fans? I know it's difficult to do for you, but here's a hint, do it on Tues,Thurs, & Sat. This allows your brain to rest and recover from the strain you use to use it!


Run along Lil Shockey Boy, we'll police our own!

And the Chiefs should be going for their 4th Super bowl win in a row... This is what successful team's fans do.

IDK guys I think wichita state is poised for a deep run in the NCAA tournament this year and I'm excited to watch

what time is their first game???

Can you believe they took Arizona and Houston to OT?

Of course. We ****ing laid an egg last year. Trying to block 2021-22 out? Garrett as give me the ball I’ll win the game point guard?:mad:

Agreed. Last year didn’t even happen.

It’s going to be really tough to win back to back National Championships.

It’s been almost 100 years since we last did that.

Okay , I deserve that. :LOL:

You've been quiet this year. LMAO

Bahhh we'd exact revenge for sure.

Wait, so the tournament losses are devastating and soul crushing AND we get over it in 24 hours?


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I haven't felt particularly bad about a tourney loss since Michigan in 2013. The others since then we either weren't very good (like with the losses to Stanford, WSU, Auburn, and USC) or were good and just got beat by a better team (like Villanova twice and Oregon).

I remember when I told people last year we matched up terribly with USC and they were going to beat us. People called me a bunch of names and that I was a pussy. It's hard for fans to accept the truth.

Kansas and Nova were pretty even in 2016. That was a really close game between two really good teams.

Nova’s free throw shooting in that game was incredible and proved to be the difference. I wasn’t too bothered by the outcome though, because it was just a really good matchup.

Regarding the Stanford loss, I’ll always wonder what could’ve been had Embiid stayed healthy. He had become the worst matchup in college basketball. I’m still surprised he ever managed to overcome his injury issues.

The loss that bothers me the most of the Self era was VCU. The early tourney losses don’t stick with me, because we still would’ve had to win more games to accomplish anything meaningful.

That was an Elite 8 against a team that shouldn’t have even made the tournament. The Final Four was so weak that year too. That was one of the only times I really remember the tournament completely opening up for us, but we couldn’t take advantage.

Oregon > KU in 17

ROFL


Our 2017 team > 2010 team

I think Oregon was just an awkward matchup. Their guards were huge and Mason/Graham weren’t. Jordan Bell punked Lucas all game. Really wish Doke hadn’t gotten hurt.

Arguable. Both teams had 5 NBA players on it (Brooks, Boucher, Bell, Dorsey, and Pritchard versus Graham, Jackson, Svi, Mason, Udoka), so the talent level was quite comparable.

Not even close, both in metrics and overall talent. 2010 team has an argument for being the most talented Self team in his entire era.

Disagree

Give me 2010’s front court with 2017’s back court

I went to the Oregon and Nova games... the Oregon one ticked me off a bit, but given Nova was up like 19-4 by the first whistle and hit a million threes, you get over it pretty quickly. Not that the Oregon game was particularly close, but Kansas at least had a couple of chances to make a run, which can make it even more frustrating when they continue to suck.

Yeah, probably never happened.

How far do you predict Wichita state will go in the NCAA tourney this year?

Oregon 2017 ended up not competitive but that one still haunts me. Having Mason/Graham/Jackson and pretty much only losing because Udoka got hurt at the end of the year (a new KU tradition!) was just awful. Mason was a damn badass in the first half, doing everything he could.

2013 choke job/Michigan miracle 3s hurt. But we weren't seriously going beyond the F4 with the leftovers of 2012.

Those round out a top 5 along with 2002 (Maryland, lord that KU team was loaded), 2003 (Syracuse, free throws), and 2010 (UNI, ugh). EDIT: those are not in order of ranking. 1997 was kinda before my appreciation for hoops.

Any other contenders? 2020 covid cancelation or 2004 loss in E8 OT vs Georgia Tech are biggest that come to mind.

Georgia Tech was a year where every round was 'upset alert'... Pacific as the 12 and UAB was going to run them out of the gym. I remember mostly being happy they had gotten that far.

We had demolished Purdue by 30 and were -5.5 at Sprint Center (!) before getting shit on by a middling team. Dorsey had a huge night and Devonte went like 0-9 from deep. Oregon lost by 1 to UNC by shooting poorly and giving Meeks like 1,000 rebounds, then UNC won it.

That title was ours if we don’t piss down our leg


It’s not even close to 08. And I’d put 2020 (no debate), 2007, 2011, 2017 ahead. You Jack off to all those 2010 dudes who had a cup of coffee in the NBA. But meh. They were punked by a shit MVC team (after struggling round 1).

Don’t forget we were even with Kentucky and Dook all 2010 and they don’t faceplant like the 2010 cowards

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Nah, that Oregon team was stacked with long, athletic, switchable talented NBA players, 3 of which are still contributing with the league. That loss had everything to do with how Oregon they played (and how bad a matchup they were for KU) than anything else.



Talent wise 2010 is almost certainly better than all of them. None of those other teams had 8 NBA players on it (2020 had 3; 2007 had 7; 2008 had 7; 2011 had 6--not sure by the way how 2011 could be better than 2010 when it had the same players as 2010 just without Aldrich, Sherron, and Henry, and 2017 had 5).

And if we're talking metrics, only 2008 had a better KP efficiency margin than the 2010 team and it isn't particularly close. Citing some fluke loss to UNI that would have only happened 1 out of 10 times as some kind of evidence that 2010 was a bad team is pretty silly.

I don't remember being all that bothered by it. Looking back at the box score, Devonte really didn't show up which is kind of surprising but maybe not as surprising when you look at the guards Oregon had (Brooks, Ennis, Dorsey).

I also seem to recall Landen Lucas getting absolutely destroyed by Jordan Bell (who contributed to a championship Warriors team a while back) so maybe that isn't so surprising either.

I’m pretty sure Josh Jackson picked up a few really early fouls, which pretty much negated his impact. He was such a hot head at times, which made it even worse.

Josh is one of the top 5 best players I’ve seen in 40 years watching KU

1. Manning
2. Pierce
3. Raef
4. Gooden
5. Josh

I would agree with Manning and Pierce as 1 and 2.

I'm a little surprised Embiid doesn't get more credit. Yes he showed up raw and injuries meant he didn't play in the tourny.

But he was a dominant college player down the stretch before his health gave out.