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Megatron96 01-23-2020 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by All22 (Post 14746544)
The claim was that your defense was playing lights out... it clearly wasn't. You should be worried that Pat has to put up those kinds of performances to beat wild card teams. The 49ers are vastly superior to AFC wild card teams.

FYI: The Chiefs defense wasn't on the field for 14 points of that 24-point lead that HOU built. So really HOU offense only scored 10 points.

And the Titans? Well, they scored 17 points in the first half. And only scored one more time for the game.

Spags will figure out your offense, just like he's figured out every offense for the last 9 weeks. He'll find a way to stop it a couple times.

And then Pat will start carving up your defense.

John Dowd 01-23-2020 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 14746519)
Not sure how to embed from my phone.

Unless SF can clone Richard Sherman 4 or 5 times, KC will be able to score 35-45 points in the SB. Our skill guys are going to make their linebackers and secondary look like fools.

Who’s covering Kelce? WARD? Lol Sherman won’t be able to cover Hill. Sorry. Nobody on SFs roster can cover any of our receivers. Screens and swings to our backs are going to be very effective.


I just have full confidence that these savages from KC are going to win this one and it may not even be all that close unless SF plays a perfect game and KC beats themselves.

I respect the Chiefs fans and their team. Mahome's is amazing and with these weapons he is easily the best QB in football imo.

With that said, the more and more I think about this game the more I think that the 49ers win this game decisively. Our rushing attack is nothing like the Titan's and against your 29th ranked run D, We are gonna keep Mahomes off the field and wear your D out. There's very few D's in the league who can slow the 49ers rushing attack when Kyle unleashes his playbook and the Chiefs defense certainly isn't one of them with all due respect.

I just don't see the Chiefs stopping our rush. We're gonna keep Mahomes on the sidelines limiting his oppertunities. I don't care how good anybody's offense is, nobody just scores on this defense at will when we're fully healthy. Maybe during garbage time


Our D line is no joke and the ability to rush 4 with consistent pressure from all angles is gonna a huge problem for KC. I think the Chiefs are a great team and definitely a top four team but I just don't think they match up well with us at all.

It's pretty much banking that Mahomes balls out and even if he does, there's no reason to think that the 49ers can't score against Chiefs D to be in the game.

Of course anything can happen and both teams are good enough to blow each other out if one or two things go a certain way but Chiefs fans should be very worried about what the 49ers are bringing to this matchup. If we have to open up the playbook like we did in the shootout with the Saints, we're very capable of doing that.

rabblerouser 01-23-2020 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by All22 (Post 14746470)
So what's your point? As evidenced by the single-digit number of passes Jimmy threw, we didn't need our starting QB to beatdown Green Bay or Minnesota either.

My point is that we have a great team, and that it's not "all Mahomes". If you noticed, the comment I responded to was the one that said we are a "2 win team without Mahomes."

SanDiego49er 01-23-2020 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 14746575)
Yep. I think Vegas nailed it when they set the line at pretty much 50/50. Very good chance it's a pretty close game. I'm just hoping it's not a snoozefest like the Patriots/Rams game.

Of course I cheer for my team and want my team just as you do. But really I would not be surprised by either team holding the trophy at the end. I think they are both capable of it. Both have excellent aspects of their team and a few shortcomings each as well. There are no perfect teams out there. But these are two really strong ones.

I expect a good game which would be nice for a change. Super Bowls can be real boring sometimes. I think this one will be good. Each side will have at least that. A great game to watch and be a part of.

DRM08 01-23-2020 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SanDiego49er (Post 14746579)
Of course I cheer for my team and want my team just as you do. But really I would not be surprised by either team holding the trophy at the end. I think they are both capable of it. Both have excellent aspects of their team and a few shortcomings each as well. There are no perfect teams out there. But these are two really strong ones.

I expect a good game which would be nice for a change. Super Bowls can be real boring sometimes. I think this one will be good. Each side will have at least that. A great game to watch and be a part of.

If this thing turns into 12-9 or some crap like that...LMAO

TripleThreat 01-23-2020 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by All22 (Post 14746569)
Why is the team overrated? We finished 1st in the toughest division, we got the #1 seed in the NFC, every loss we've had has been at the last second (and involved massive amounts of injuries from our team) and we just crushed our two playoff opponents from start to finish. The #2 seed in the NFC was held scoreless until halfway through the 3rd.

Your team isn't overrated, you have a well balanced team, but I've said it before and I'll say it again, Jimmy G is your guys' Achilles heel. He makes bone-headed decisions from what I have seen and is IMO the reason people think you guys are overrated cause no one thinks that defense is.

You can just go down your list to be honest, and find your weakest link

Whats weaker? Jimmy G or your running game?
Whats weaker? Jimmy G or your coaching staff/playcalls?
Whats weaker? Jimmy G or your defense?
Whats weaker? Jimmy G or your Tight End?
Whats weaker? Jimmy G or your wide receivers E.Sanders/Deebo?
literally once you get down to it when looking at your team at what is the weakest link you are deciding between your receivers and Jimmy G. Everywhere else on your team is clearly superior.

All22 01-23-2020 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 14746570)
I don't agree with anyone pushing the blowout agenda, in either direction. Both sides guilty of it from what I'm seeing all over the Internet. It's two good teams and I think it's going to be a pretty good battle regardless of the winner.

It's Any Given Sunday in the NFL so no result would surprise me.

That said, the 49ers haven't trailed a single second in their last 3 games (against Seattle, Minnesota, and Green Bay). Whereas the Chiefs have been down, and sometimes down big, in all of their last 3 games against much worse teams.

The narrative of the Chiefs blowing out the 49ers doesn't make much sense.

DRM08 01-23-2020 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by John Dowd (Post 14746577)
Chiefs fans should be very worried about what the 49ers are bringing to this matchup.

I'm not sure if "worried" is the right word to use. They were fortunate the dislocated knee for Mahomes was not more serious, or else they probably would have missed the playoffs. So they've had a great run regardless of how the next game turns out. That's my two cents anyway.

staylor26 01-23-2020 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by All22 (Post 14746584)
It's Any Given Sunday in the NFL so no result would surprise me.

That said, the 49ers haven't trailed a single second in their last 3 games (against Seattle, Minnesota, and Green Bay). Whereas the Chiefs have been down, and sometimes down big, in all of their last 3 games against much worse teams.

The narrative of the Chiefs blowing out the 49ers doesn't make much sense.

Oh and the narrative about the 49ers does?

Stop ****ing looking at 1 quarter of fluky football and making judgements. You see 24-0, while ignoring 52 to ****ing 7.

If you aren’t aware, this team hasn’t lost by more than 8 points in something like 40 games.

If anybody is getting blown out, it’s you guys. I’m not saying that’s going to happen by any means. It’s just the more likely scenario.

BossChief 01-23-2020 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14746572)
Overrated how??? KC is a 8-8 team without Mahomes (this is the part where the KC fans bring up your record before Mahomes). We’re 13-3 with a “game manager”.

How exactly are we overrated if we have a top 5 offense and a top 3 defense. How???? HOW????

You haven’t faced many teams that can test you like your team is going to be tested next Sunday.

NO scored 46
Seattle scores 27
Arizona scored 26
Atlanta scored 29
Rams scored 31

KCs offense is far more talented than any of those.

Just be happy your team made it this far.

KC is winning the Super Bowl next Sunday.

Enjoy the commercials.

rabblerouser 01-23-2020 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by All22 (Post 14746517)
So how is being down 24-0 in the early second considered playing lights out?

The defense had almost nothing to do with that. They gave up 7 points.

A blocked punt returned for 7 isn't on the defense, a fumbled punt return on the 5 yard line isn't on the defense.

Did you even watch that game?

It was 51-7 from that point on.

DRM08 01-23-2020 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by All22 (Post 14746584)
It's Any Given Sunday in the NFL so no result would surprise me.

That said, the 49ers haven't trailed a single second in their last 3 games (against Seattle, Minnesota, and Green Bay). Whereas the Chiefs have been down, and sometimes down big, in all of their last 3 games against much worse teams.

The narrative of the Chiefs blowing out the 49ers doesn't make much sense.

Of course there's 2 weeks off and who knows how the teams will show up. I think the Chiefs are due for a game where they show up playing their best from the very first snap. They've done it a few times this year, but not the last couple games. What if they bring it in this next one?

Niners have been on a hell of a roll and maybe it continues, but that doesn't guarantee it will continue. Every team goes through those up and down aspects of their season. Baltimore looked unbeatable and then flopped hard after a little time off. You could easily say the same thing about the Chiefs having a disaster start against the Texans. But they survived it.

We'll see how it goes!

TripleThreat 01-23-2020 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14746588)
Oh and the narrative about the 49ers does?

Stop ****ing looking at 1 quarter of fluky football and making judgements. You see 24-0, while ignoring 52 to ****ing 7.

If you aren’t aware, this team hasn’t lost by more than 8 points in something like 40 games.

If anybody is getting blown out, it’s you guys. I’m not saying that’s going to happen by any means. It’s just the more likely scenario.

Exactly. Dude over here thinking football is decided in one quarter or a half of football.

All22 01-23-2020 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 14746581)
Your team isn't overrated, you have a well balanced team, but I've said it before and I'll say it again, Jimmy G is your guys' Achilles heel. He makes bone-headed decisions from what I have seen and is IMO the reason people think you guys are overrated cause no one thinks that defense is.

You can just go down your list to be honest, and find your weakest link

Whats weaker? Jimmy G or your running game?
Whats weaker? Jimmy G or your coaching staff/playcalls?
Whats weaker? Jimmy G or your defense?
Whats weaker? Jimmy G or your Tight End?
Whats weaker? Jimmy G or your wide receivers E.Sanders/Deebo?
literally once you get down to it when looking at your team at what is the weakest link you are deciding between your receivers and Jimmy G. Everywhere else on your team is clearly superior.


Our running game, coaching staff, defense, and tight end are all #1 or #2 in the league. Yes, Jimmy is not a top #1 or #2 QB.

rabblerouser 01-23-2020 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by All22 (Post 14746526)
Well, we've never been down by 24 points so...

That's a good thing for you, because your team would never be able to come back from that.

SanDiego49er 01-23-2020 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 14746580)
If this thing turns into 12-9 or some crap like that...LMAO

Sometimes when they predict high scoring it comes out a low scoring defensive battle. You just never know. But I have the feeling it will be close and a good game. And for the fans that's really all you can ask for. At least the game will likely be exciting whoever does end up winning.

staylor26 01-23-2020 01:55 AM

Our QB, coaching staff, TE, WR group, DL, and S are all top 3.

Eat a dick.

All22 01-23-2020 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14746590)
The defense had almost nothing to do with that. They gave up 7 points.

A blocked punt returned for 7 isn't on the defense, a fumbled punt return on the 5 yard line isn't on the defense.

Did you even watch that game?

They gave up 10 points on long drives and another 7 on a quick score from a extremely short field.

Your defense has played well, in the second half, but "lights out" is not at all accurate.

DRM08 01-23-2020 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14746590)
The defense had almost nothing to do with that. They gave up 7 points.

A blocked punt returned for 7 isn't on the defense, a fumbled punt return on the 5 yard line isn't on the defense.

Did you even watch that game?

It was 51-7 from that point on.

It was 10 points for the defense. Field goal drive was legit by the Texans. That was the infamous coward decision by O'Brien to not go for it on 4th and 1 deep in KC territory.

staylor26 01-23-2020 01:56 AM

And lol @ the 49ers having a top 2 staff after one ****ing year of success.

It’s the Pats and the Chiefs and there’s absolutely no ****ing debate there.

Hern 01-23-2020 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 14746589)
You haven’t faced many teams that can test you like your team is going to be tested next Sunday.

NO scored 46
Seattle scores 27
Arizona scored 26
Atlanta scored 29
Rams scored 31

KCs offense is far more talented than any of those.

Just be happy your team made it this far.

KC is winning the Super Bowl next Sunday.

Enjoy the commercials.

I don’t get what those scores matter. For the exception of the Falcons game, we out scored the opponent.

No worries tho, I get it. KC is Thanos with all the infinity rings.

rabblerouser 01-23-2020 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by John Dowd (Post 14746577)
I respect the Chiefs fans and their team. Mahome's is amazing and with these weapons he is easily the best QB in football imo.

With that said, the more and more I think about this game the more I think that the 49ers win this game decisively. Our rushing attack is nothing like the Titan's and against your 29th ranked run D, We are gonna keep Mahomes off the field and wear your D out. There's very few D's in the league who can slow the 49ers rushing attack when Kyle unleashes his playbook and the Chiefs defense certainly isn't one of them with all due respect.

ROFL

You're in for a rude awakening. "Your 29th ranked rush D"

LMAO

When were we the 29th ranked rush D? Week 7??

rabblerouser 01-23-2020 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by All22 (Post 14746597)
They gave up 10 points on long drives and another 7 on a quick score from a extremely short field.

Your defense has played well, in the second half, but "lights out" is not at all accurate.

And that's it. And then our offense scored 51 points.

Think about that.

rabblerouser 01-23-2020 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 14746598)
It was 10 points for the defense. Field goal drive was legit by the Texans. That was the infamous coward decision by O'Brien to not go for it on 4th and 1 deep in KC territory.

Even if Dickless O'Brien would've went for it and they scored, it would've been 51-35 at the end.

BossChief 01-23-2020 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by John Dowd (Post 14746577)
I respect the Chiefs fans and their team. Mahome's is amazing and with these weapons he is easily the best QB in football imo.

With that said, the more and more I think about this game the more I think that the 49ers win this game decisively. Our rushing attack is nothing like the Titan's and against your 29th ranked run D, We are gonna keep Mahomes off the field and wear your D out. There's very few D's in the league who can slow the 49ers rushing attack when Kyle unleashes his playbook and the Chiefs defense certainly isn't one of them with all due respect.

I just don't see the Chiefs stopping our rush. We're gonna keep Mahomes on the sidelines limiting his oppertunities. I don't care how good anybody's offense is, nobody just scores on this defense at will when we're fully healthy. Maybe during garbage time


Our D line is no joke and the ability to rush 4 with consistent pressure from all angles is gonna a huge problem for KC. I think the Chiefs are a great team and definitely a top four team but I just don't think they match up well with us at all.

It's pretty much banking that Mahomes balls out and even if he does, there's no reason to think that the 49ers can't score against Chiefs D to be in the game.

Of course anything can happen and both teams are good enough to blow each other out if one or two things go a certain way but Chiefs fans should be very worried about what the 49ers are bringing to this matchup. If we have to open up the playbook like we did in the shootout with the Saints, we're very capable of doing that.

Over the last 8 games, we have held teams to under a hundred yard average rushing. Your team allows 113 rush yards per game.

I guarantee you that your team will be held in check on the ground with the exception of a possible play or 2. This isn’t even close to the defense that started the year giving up big run yardage because they were learning a completely new scheme as well as multiple formation changes and most of the starters were brand new to the team.

We didn’t have Pennel yet.
We didn’t have Terrell Suggs yet.
Frank Clark was having nerve issues.
Chris Jones was still learning to play disciplined football.

Do yourself a favor so you don’t look ignorant....

Go watch 2 early in the year games of KC and then watch a couple recent games.

You guys are flat out NOT going to put up big rushing numbers against THIS KC run defense.

DRM08 01-23-2020 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14746603)
Even if Dickless O'Brien would've went for it and they scored, it would've been 51-35 at the end.

Right, I'm not sure any of the controversial O'Brien decisions really mattered in the end. Their defense was pure trash. Receivers were either wide open or refs had to throw flags for interference/grabbing by the Texans.

Hern 01-23-2020 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14746601)
ROFL

You're in for a rude awakening. "Your 29th ranked rush D"

LMAO

When were we the 29th ranked rush D? Week 7??


Defense is ranked for the entire year. Not just for when it fits your narrative.

rabblerouser 01-23-2020 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 14746604)
Over the last 8 games, we have held teams to under a hundred yard average rushing. Your team allows 113 rush yards per game.

I guarantee you that your team will be held in check on the ground with the exception of a possible play or 2. This isn’t even close to the defense that started the year giving up big run yardage because they were learning a completely new scheme as well as multiple formation changes and most of the starters were brand new to the team.

We didn’t have Pennel yet.
We didn’t have Terrell Suggs yet.
Frank Clark was having nerve issues.
Chris Jones was still learning to play disciplined football.

Do yourself a favor so you don’t look ignorant....

Go watch 2 early in the year games of KC and then watch a couple recent games.

You guys are flat out NOT going to put up big rushing numbers against THIS KC run defense.

He thinks that we have the 29th ranked rush defense, and that those numbers, even if accurate (they're not) mean something on Feb 2 (they don't).

I'm hoping these guys participate in the game day thread here so we can read their reactions.

rabblerouser 01-23-2020 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14746606)
Defense is ranked for the entire year. Not just for when it fits your narrative.

Cool story, bro. Whatever makes you feel better.

Hern 01-23-2020 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14746609)
Cool story, bro. Whatever makes you feel better.


That’s the nicest you’ve ever been to me buddy!!!

staylor26 01-23-2020 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14746606)
Defense is ranked for the entire year. Not just for when it fits your narrative.

So you think every team is the same team they were week 1.

Good to know you’re a ****ing reerun that shouldn’t even be acknowledged anymore.

TripleThreat 01-23-2020 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14746606)
Defense is ranked for the entire year. Not just for when it fits your narrative.

That makes 0 sense unless your narrative is judging teams on months of success rather than what is happening today.

Remember when the patriots were 16-0 and they lost to the giants in the superbowl because the giants were on fire and clicking? I don't think what stats the giants put up in weeks 1-8 really mattered since what they were doing weeks 9-16 is who they became...... I wonder if the rams sit on your boards talking about how you guys should judge them off their Superbowl appearance last year and not their current form?

I judge your team off what they did vs the packers/vikings/seahawks. That is the best resemblance of your team. That means you have a stellar defense, a shit quarterback and a great running game. You wanna continue talking about weeks 1-10 etc? Thats fine, I won't be using lube next sunday anyways.

SanDiego49er 01-23-2020 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 14746589)
You haven’t faced many teams that can test you like your team is going to be tested next Sunday.

NO scored 46
Seattle scores 27
Arizona scored 26
Atlanta scored 29
Rams scored 31

KCs offense is far more talented than any of those.

Just be happy your team made it this far.

KC is winning the Super Bowl next Sunday.

Enjoy the commercials.

Certainly you don't know much about the 49ers. Apparently you missed the fact that our team was decimated with injuries during that point in the season. We STILL won a lot of of those games despite it. And we now have a lot of the key guys back for the playoff run. Which makes our defense completely different and much more dominant. As evidenced by the playoffs so far. We dominated our opponents.

Hern 01-23-2020 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14746608)
He thinks that we have the 29th ranked rush defense, and that those numbers, even if accurate (they're not) mean something on Feb 2 (they don't).

I'm hoping these guys participate in the game day thread here so we can read their reactions.


I’ll try to tune in with this game day thread. Might be difficult since I have friends and we’ll be watching the game. Most likely crying because we’re getting blown out.

rabblerouser 01-23-2020 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14746610)
That’s the nicest you’ve ever been to me buddy!!!

Well, you've had a hard day at work, and your fellow 49er fan dropped us from 26th ranked rush D to the 29th for some reason, so I guess those numbers are real important to you guys...I guess you all may as well feel good about things now, today. Because this defense is going to shock the shit out of you when they shut down the SF running game and make a ****ing mockery out of your barely-capable game manager of a QB Jimmy Sour Grapes.

Buddy.

staylor26 01-23-2020 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 14746612)
That makes 0 sense unless your narrative is judging teams on months of success rather than what is happening today.

Remember when the patriots were 16-0 and they lost to the giants in the superbowl because the giants were on fire and clicking? I don't think what stats the giants put up in weeks 1-8 really mattered since what they were doing weeks 9-16 is who they became......

I judge your team off what they did vs the packers/vikings/seahawks. That is the best resemblance of your team. That means you have a stellar defense, a shit quarterback and a great running game. You wanna continue talking about weeks 1-10 etc? Thats fine, I won't be using lube next sunday anyways.

They only want to include what happened before until you start talking about the Saints game defensively and the fact that they probably don’t even win their division if the Seahawks don’t lose both of their RB’s AND their LT before week 17.

John Dowd 01-23-2020 02:09 AM

Doesn't matter if Chiefs run D is still 29th or not come superbowl time. Chiefs do not have an elite run defense and I really feel like the 49ers run game this year shreds most defenses if the 49ers are full committed to it which they will be vs the Chiefs.

rabblerouser 01-23-2020 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SanDiego49er (Post 14746614)
Certainly you don't know much about the 49ers. Apparently you missed the fact that our team was decimated with injuries during that point in the season. We STILL won a lot of of those games despite it. And we now have a lot of the key guys back for the playoff run. Which makes our defense completely different and much more dominant. As evidenced by the playoffs so far. We dominated our opponents.

"Rankings are for the whole year, herpederpderp."

BossChief 01-23-2020 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14746606)
Defense is ranked for the entire year. Not just for when it fits your narrative.

Ignorant.

New defensive coaching staff
More than half the defenses players were new this year.
Going from 3-4 base to 4-3 base

The run defense has gotten better every game since about the halfway point and right now our run defense is every bit as good as yours.

No, **** that.

KCs run defense RIGHT NOW is BETTER than SFs.

You’ll find out all about it next Sunday.

staylor26 01-23-2020 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by John Dowd (Post 14746618)
Doesn't matter if Chiefs run D is still 29th or not come superbowl time. Chiefs do not have an elite run defense and I really feel like the 49ers run game this year shreds most defenses if the 49ers are full committed to it which they will be vs the Chiefs.

You sir are a special kind of reerun if you think you could beat us running the football.

The Titans and everybody else thought that last week too until we killed King Henry. Your RB isn’t nearly as good, as it has more to do with your scheme.

Hern 01-23-2020 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14746611)
So you think every team is the same team they were week 1.

Good to know you’re a ****ing reerun that shouldn’t even be acknowledged anymore.


Are you asking me if I think that or telling me??

rabblerouser 01-23-2020 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by John Dowd (Post 14746618)
Doesn't matter if Chiefs run D is still 29th or not come superbowl time. Chiefs do not have an elite run defense and I really feel like the 49ers run game this year shreds most defenses if the 49ers are full committed to it which they will be vs the Chiefs.

Right. Titans fans said the same shit last week. And to be fair, Henry had 3 straight games with 180+ yards.

And then we shut that shit down hard. And their game manager QB didn't have an answer.

Think about that.

DRM08 01-23-2020 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by John Dowd (Post 14746618)
Doesn't matter if Chiefs run D is still 29th or not come superbowl time. Chiefs do not have an elite run defense and I really feel like the 49ers run game this year shreds most defenses if the 49ers are full committed to it which they will be vs the Chiefs.

I dunno, I could see the Niners going with some play action throws quite a bit. Titans had pretty solid success. They scored 17 points in the first half and seemed like most of their really good movement on each drive was from play action throws instead of running the ball. I could see the Niners going with similar approach.

BossChief 01-23-2020 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SanDiego49er (Post 14746614)
Certainly you don't know much about the 49ers. Apparently you missed the fact that our team was decimated with injuries during that point in the season. We STILL won a lot of of those games despite it. And we now have a lot of the key guys back for the playoff run. Which makes our defense completely different and much more dominant. As evidenced by the playoffs so far. We dominated our opponents.

How are you matching up against:

Tyreek
Watkins
Hardman
Kelce

Here’s your answer:

You aren’t.

You simply don’t have the talent to match up.

Mahomes/Andy are going to screen and bomb your defense to death.

staylor26 01-23-2020 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14746624)
Are you asking me if I think that or telling me??

It’s pretty obvious you do based on the fact that you think the stats on the entire season are relevant and choose to ignore any context whatsoever.

rabblerouser 01-23-2020 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 14746621)
Ignorant.

New defensive coaching staff
More than half the defenses players were new this year.
Going from 3-4 base to 4-3 base

The run defense has gotten better every game since about the halfway point and right now our run defense is every bit as good as yours.

No, **** that.

KCs run defense RIGHT NOW is BETTER than SFs.

You’ll find out all about it next Sunday.

I'd take our run over theirs all day.

Clark and Pennel are playing straight NASTY

SanDiego49er 01-23-2020 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 14746628)
How are you matching up against:

Tyreek
Watkins
Hardman
Kelce

Here’s your answer:

You aren’t.

You simply don’t have the talent to match up.

It's called pass rush and an elite front 4. And it negates them all.

How are you matching up against Sanders, Samuel, Kittle and Mostert and Juice.

You aren't.

You simply don't have the talent to match up. Further our offensive line will blow you right off the ball.

rabblerouser 01-23-2020 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14746630)
It’s pretty obvious you do based on the fact that you think the stats on the entire season are relevant and choose to ignore any context whatsoever.

Hey Hey!

Herm had a hard day at work. Go easy on him. Make him feel good about the 49ers chances.

"Yeah, our run D is ranked 26th. Don't know if we can stop you guys. 49ers are real good. Jimmy Grapes, man...should we even go to Miami? Why show up of we're just going to get BEAT!??"

ROFL
LMAO

DRM08 01-23-2020 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 14746628)
How are you matching up against:

Tyreek
Watkins
Hardman
Kelce

Here’s your answer:

You aren’t.

You simply don’t have the talent to match up.

They are confident the pass rush will get to Mahomes on many occasions. They don't even need to get to him that often. If they can get a strip fumble, those are big momentum changing plays.

It's gonna be a major challenge for the Chiefs offensive line and we'll see how they deal with it. One thing I know. There is literal evidence of Mahomes under pressure on every single play (LSU game in college) and he pulled some serious magician stuff in that situation.

If the Niners pass rush lives up to the hype, I am looking forward to seeing Mahomes show off his magical scrambling and off-platform abilities for 100+ million people...and then maybe some of the idiots will stop calling him a system QB or whatever other dumb stuff.

Hern 01-23-2020 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14746616)
Well, you've had a hard day at work, and your fellow 49er fan dropped us from 26th ranked rush D to the 29th for some reason, so I guess those numbers are real important to you guys...I guess you all may as well feel good about things now, today. Because this defense is going to shock the shit out of you when they shut down the SF running game and make a ****ing mockery out of your barely-capable game manager of a QB Jimmy Sour Grapes.

Buddy.

Thanks for caring about me friend.

Bottom Line is both fan bases will be shocked in whatever happens Sunday. We can easily shut down Mahomes and y’all would be surprised. On the flip side Mahomes may dismantle us in which case we’ll be surprised.

John Dowd 01-23-2020 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14746623)
You sir are a special kind of reerun if you think you could beat us running the football.

The Titans and everybody else thought that last week too until we killed King Henry. Your RB isn’t nearly as good, as it has more to do with your scheme.

Ah yes, a scheme that the Chiefs will not be able to stop. You aren't just gonna be able to stack the box vs us like you did against the Titans. The Titans running game is completely different.

Our system can make any fast RB succeed because it's not based on individual talent. We're gonna have so many open holes with speedy RB's running through them that it doesn't really matter who the RB is. Just ask the Packers line how much fun they had stopping us.


Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14746611)
So you think every team is the same team they were week 1.

Good to know you’re a ****ing reerun that shouldn’t even be acknowledged anymore.

Check our stats on D when our team is fully healthy vs that little stint when we had all of our injuries on D and then come back and tell me why I'm worried. I might sound a bit brash but it's really just confidence.

I think the Chiefs are good I just feel like the 49ers are the overall better team and it will show. We can win this game with our offense and defense. Chiefs are not shutting our offense down in this game. Not with Shanny using the full playbook.

We're not some mediocre AFL team. We are lethal from both sides of the ball

BossChief 01-23-2020 02:19 AM

Suggs and Clark sealing the edges while Pennel/Nnadi/Jones clean up the rest is as good as it gets in the nfl for a 40 front.

Im literally not worried at all about their running game.

I’m a little worried about the short passes to the backs and their speed in the open field paired with Kittle taking attention of the safeties...but I’m confident Spags will have a plan to keep SFs offense in check and to cause turnovers.

BossChief 01-23-2020 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SanDiego49er (Post 14746632)
It's called pass rush and an elite front 4. And it negates them all.

How are you matching up against Sanders, Samuel, Kittle and Mostert and Juice.

You aren't.

You simply don't have the talent to match up. Further our offensive line will blow you right off the ball.

Haha you have a rude awakening coming

staylor26 01-23-2020 02:22 AM

I love 49ers fans acting like they dealt with so much adversity in regards to injuries.

Did Bosa get hurt? Buckner? Sherman? Jimmy G? Other than Kittle missing 2 games, all of your best (and QB) players were healthy the entire season.

The Chiefs on the other hand literally had all of our best players miss time and each more than one game.

Get the **** out of here with the injury shit.

BossChief 01-23-2020 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 14746634)
They are confident the pass rush will get to Mahomes on many occasions. They don't even need to get to him that often. If they can get a strip fumble, those are big momentum changing plays.

It's gonna be a major challenge for the Chiefs offensive line and we'll see how they deal with it. One thing I know. There is literal evidence of Mahomes under pressure on every single play (LSU game in college) and he pulled some serious magician stuff in that situation.

If the Niners pass rush lives up to the hype, I am looking forward to seeing Mahomes show off his magical scrambling and off-platform abilities for 100+ million people...and then maybe some of the idiots will stop calling him a system QB or whatever other dumb stuff.

Since Fisher returned, Mahomes has been clean and putting Wis in at LG has helped everyone.

SFs front is talented, but they aren’t going to dominate our OL by any stretch of the imagination

St. Patty's Fire 01-23-2020 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Dowd (Post 14746637)
Ah yes, a scheme that the Chiefs will not be able to stop. You aren't just gonna be able to stack the box vs us like you did against the Titans. The Titans running game is completely different.

Our system can make any fast RB succeed because it's not based on individual talent. We're gonna have so many open holes with speedy RB's running through them that it doesn't really matter who the RB is. Just ask the Packers line how much fun they had stopping us.




Check our stats on D when our team is fully healthy vs that little stint when we had all of our injuries on D and then come back and tell me why I'm worried. I might sound a bit brash but it's really just confidence.

I think the Chiefs are good I just feel like the 49ers are the overall better team and it will show. We can win this game with our offense and defense. Chiefs are not shutting our offense down in this game. Not with Shanny using the full playbook.

We're not some mediocre AFL team. We are lethal from both sides of the ball

We barely stacked the box against the Titans dipshit. You’re literally just spitting out buzz phrases with no knowledge whatsoever.

rabblerouser 01-23-2020 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14746636)
Thanks for caring about me friend.

Bottom Line is both fan bases will be shocked in whatever happens Sunday. We can easily shut down Mahomes and y’all would be surprised. On the flip side Mahomes may dismantle us in which case we’ll be surprised.

I'm not surprised at anything you guys do.

I watched the Baltimore/SF game, both games you played against Seattle, the NO game and both playoff games.

You have a good team. Seattle got robbed week 17, but whatever. You all had problems shutting down Jackson and Wilson. And didn't really come close to shutting down Brees, who's a veritable ****ing statue.

You aren't shutting down Mahomes. Dude is on a ****ing MISSION.

Good luck, friend.

BossChief 01-23-2020 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14746641)
I love 49ers fans acting like they dealt with so much adversity in regards to injuries.

Did Bosa get hurt? Buckner? Sherman? Jimmy G? Other than Kittle missing 2 games, all of your best (and QB) players were healthy the entire season.

The Chiefs on the other hand literally had all of our best players miss time and each more than one game.

Get the **** out of here with the injury shit.

I read earlier that weve lost almost 150 quarters of football from starters this season.

Healthy now, though.

That’s all that counts.

John Dowd 01-23-2020 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by St. Patty's Fire (Post 14746643)
We barely stacked the box against the Titans dipshit. You’re literally just spitting out buzz phrases with no knowledge whatsoever.

Name calling? Really?

staylor26 01-23-2020 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Dowd (Post 14746637)
Ah yes, a scheme that the Chiefs will not be able to stop. You aren't just gonna be able to stack the box vs us like you did against the Titans. The Titans running game is completely different.

Our system can make any fast RB succeed because it's not based on individual talent. We're gonna have so many open holes with speedy RB's running through them that it doesn't really matter who the RB is. Just ask the Packers line how much fun they had stopping us.


When you have no ****ing clue what you are talking about and are literally talking out of your ass:


Quote:

Nate Weller
@NateWellerr
The Chiefs only used a stacked box on 12% of the Titans offensive plays last weekend, the fewest they had faced since Week 6 against the Broncos.

In the first three quarters when the game was more tightly contested the Chiefs still only stacked the box on 17% of snaps.

TripleThreat 01-23-2020 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14746636)
Thanks for caring about me friend.

Bottom Line is both fan bases will be shocked in whatever happens Sunday. We can easily shut down Mahomes and y’all would be surprised. On the flip side Mahomes may dismantle us in which case we’ll be surprised.

If you are going to be "surprised" that Mahomes may dismantle you on Sunday, then you haven't been watching NFL football the last two years.


You need ELITE special teams play, ELITE offensive play, and ELITE defensive play, and even then, we still have a chance to beat you.

DRM08 01-23-2020 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 14746642)
Since Fisher returned, Mahomes has been clean and putting Wis in at LG has helped everyone.

SFs front is talented, but they aren’t going to dominate our OL by any stretch of the imagination

We'll see how it goes. Niner fans are extremely confident. You're extremely confident. I'm kind of in the 50/50 boat. I wouldn't be shocked if the Chiefs OL does a great job but I also wouldn't be shocked if they get their butts kicked.

I seriously doubt it would be as bad as the LSU game was for Patrick. Chiefs have some solid talent by NFL standards on their offensive line, whereas Texas Tech had a bunch of scrubs going against multiple NFL pass rushers for LSU. It was not a fair fight at all. He didn't have an incredible group of receiver weapons to help him either. He pulled some crazy magic to avoid sacks, extend plays, and unbelievable throws across his body, etc.

Hern 01-23-2020 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14746630)
It’s pretty obvious you do based on the fact that you think the stats on the entire season are relevant and choose to ignore any context whatsoever.


That’s a big negative. I’m in record saying that stats don’t matter. I’ll repeat what I said so you can be on the same page with me.

Our defense started the season playing lights out. Halfway through the season we suffered multiple injuries to the point that once considered elite we were thought of as middle of the pack.

The same can be said for KC but the opposite. Started off with injuries then got healthy towards the back end. Therefore what seemed like a horrible defense ended up being good when their pieces/scheme changes so came together.

In conclusion comparing (which KC posters have done) defense the last 8 weeks of the season makes no sense. Y’all were healthy we weren’t.

Too many injuries have taken place to really put any emphasis on stats.

John Dowd 01-23-2020 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 14746648)
If you are going to be "surprised" that Mahomes may dismantle you on Sunday, then you haven't been watching NFL football the last two years.


You need ELITE special teams play, ELITE offensive play, and ELITE defensive play, and even then, we still have a chance to beat you.

You guys already lost 4 to teams without all three of those let's not forget that.

staylor26 01-23-2020 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Dowd (Post 14746652)
You guys already lost 4 to teams without all three of those let's not forget that.

Hey don’t miss me completely shutting down your reeruned rebuttal just a few posts up!

rabblerouser 01-23-2020 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Dowd (Post 14746637)
Ah yes, a scheme that the Chiefs will not be able to stop. You aren't just gonna be able to stack the box vs us like you did against the Titans. The Titans running game is completely different.

We didn't stack the box against the Titans. We beat their asses with 4 down lineman and our MLB.

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Dowd (Post 14746637)


Our system can make any fast RB succeed because it's not based on individual talent. We're gonna have so many open holes with speedy RB's running through them that it doesn't really matter who the RB is. Just ask the Packers line how much fun they had stopping us.

The Packers line is GARBAGE.

You guys should feel LUCKY you didn't have to play Seattle or NO again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Dowd (Post 14746637)
Check our stats on D when our team is fully healthy vs that little stint when we had all of our injuries on D and then come back and tell me why I'm worried. I might sound a bit brash but it's really just confidence.

I think the Chiefs are good I just feel like the 49ers are the overall better team and it will show. We can win this game with our offense and defense. Chiefs are not shutting our offense down in this game. Not with Shanny using the full playbook.

We're not some mediocre AFL team. We are lethal from both sides of the ball

**** your stats. I watched your team. Your defense is decent. But you're a mediocre team with a decent running game. That's it. You can't handle mobile QBs. That's been proven.

"Lethal"? ROFL. You barely beat Seattle once (kinda - blown call at the end, Seattle got ROBBED), lost to them once, and beat two VERY mediocre teams in MIN and GB. Baltimore kicked your ass. And they're not even the best the AFC has to offer.

You can lube up and bend over to grab your ankles, or we can go in dry...but it's inevitable either way. It's going down.

Hern 01-23-2020 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14746644)
I'm not surprised at anything you guys do.

I watched the Baltimore/SF game, both games you played against Seattle, the NO game and both playoff games.

You have a good team. Seattle got robbed week 17, but whatever. You all had problems shutting down Jackson and Wilson. And didn't really come close to shutting down Brees, who's a veritable ****ing statue.

You aren't shutting down Mahomes. Dude is on a ****ing MISSION.

Good luck, friend.

I hesitated typing that “shutting down Mahomes” line. You’re right. Highly doubt it happens. But I have to have faith in our defense. At least our Dline.

TripleThreat 01-23-2020 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Dowd (Post 14746652)
You guys already lost 4 to teams without all three of those let's not forget that.

And you lost to the Atlanta Falcons.

All22 01-23-2020 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 14746627)
I dunno, I could see the Niners going with some play action throws quite a bit. Titans had pretty solid success. They scored 17 points in the first half and seemed like most of their really good movement on each drive was from play action throws instead of running the ball. I could see the Niners going with similar approach.

I think it all depends on what strategy Spags takes against us. Minnesota sold out against the pass and play-action so Kyle just ran it every play.

In week 12, GB tried to play us like a run-first team and Jimmy burned them. Last week they tried selling out against the pass while playing a Bear-front and we just ran it outside at will.

I would expect Spags to try to contain the outside run and take his chances with the inside run against your big interior line.

rabblerouser 01-23-2020 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Dowd (Post 14746652)
You guys already lost 4 to teams without all three of those let's not forget that.

Sure. Without our starting QB, starting RB, 2 starting WRs, starting LT, BOTH starting Gs, starting DT, starting DE, then HIS backup, and starting CB.

Don't forget THAT.

DRM08 01-23-2020 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14746654)
Baltimore kicked the Niners ass.

They lost by 3 to the Ravens. That's not bad.

rabblerouser 01-23-2020 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14746655)
I hesitated typing that “shutting down Mahomes” line. You’re right. Highly doubt it happens. But I have to have faith in our defense. At least our Dline.

You do you. Your dline is good. But...

John Dowd 01-23-2020 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14746654)
We didn't stack the box against the Titans. We beat their asses with 4 down lineman and our MLB.


The Packers line is GARBAGE.

You guys should feel LUCKY you didn't have to play Seattle or NO again.


**** your stats. I watched your team. Your defense is decent. But you're a mediocre team with a decent running game. That's it. You can't handle mobile QBs. That's been proven.

"Lethal"? ROFL. You barely beat Seattle once, lost to them once, and beat two VERY mediocre teams in MIN and GB. Baltimore kicked your ass. And they're not even the best the AFC has to offer.

You can lube up and bend over to grab your ankles, or we can go in dry...but it's inevitable either way. It's going down.

Baltimore kicked our ass? They won by 3 points in overtime in shitty weather at their home.....if anything we should be commended for that game. It could have went either way.

rabblerouser "Kill yourself queer"

I've never seen a fanbase who are so unreasonable and ignorant. I know I came into this thread a little cocky but the personal attacks aren't needed. I kinda see why my Raiders buddy can't stand Chief fans no offense. This has been my first time chatting with Chiefs fans and I can honestly say I'm not impressed. I usually can talk football with even Seahawks fans.

If you're not saying that the Cheifs are an unbeatable juggernaught you got flamed in here. Ridiculous

BoxWine_Stouffers_TubeSock 01-23-2020 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14746600)
I don’t get what those scores matter. For the exception of the Falcons game, we out scored the opponent.

No worries tho, I get it. KC is Thanos with all the infinity rings.

Nah, we're worse than Thanos. And y'all Niners mother ****ers can't time travel so... bye.

rabblerouser 01-23-2020 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 14746659)
They lost by 3 to the Ravens. That's not bad.

It was never that close.

The 49ers could've won if they wouldn't have given the game away on multiple occasions. Baltimore shut down the 9ers running game, so SF had to rely on Jimmy Grapes.

So Baltimore had tough sledding in the rain, all they did was held on to the ball and let Jimmy G **** it up for the 9ers. Which he totally did.

DRM08 01-23-2020 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14746655)
I hesitated typing that “shutting down Mahomes” line. You’re right. Highly doubt it happens. But I have to have faith in our defense. At least our Dline.

I would say it depends on definition of shut down. I think he gets at least 10 points on you, even if you guys play awesome. He has extremely rare playmaking ability, and I don't think you can totally shut it down for 0 points.

St. Patty's Fire 01-23-2020 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Dowd (Post 14746646)
Name calling? Really?

When you say something that isn’t fact as though it’s fact, yes, you’re going to get called a dipshit.

Ex:

“The earth is flat”

“Ok dipshit”

rabblerouser 01-23-2020 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Dowd (Post 14746661)
Baltimore kicked our ass? They won by 3 points in overtime in shitty weather at their home.....if anything we should be commended for that game. It could have went either way.

rabblerouser "Kill yourself queer"

I've never seen a fanbase who are so unreasonable and ignorant. I know I came into this thread a little cocky but the personal attacks aren't needed. I kinda see why my Raiders buddy can't stand Chief fans no offense. This has been my first time chatting with Chiefs fans and I can honestly say I'm not impressed. I usually can talk football with even Seahawks fans.

If you're not saying that the Cheifs are an unbeatable juggernaught you got flamed in here. Ridiculous

You're cocky as hell and can't spell Chiefs.

It's "i before e", third grade spelling.

Learn how to spell "Chiefs" and maybe we'll engage you.

Hern 01-23-2020 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Dowd (Post 14746661)
Baltimore kicked our ass? They won by 3 points in overtime in shitty weather at their home.....if anything we should be commended for that game. It could have went either way.

rabblerouser "Kill yourself queer"

I've never seen a fanbase who are so unreasonable and ignorant. I know I came into this thread a little cocky but the personal attacks aren't needed. I kinda see why my Raiders buddy can't stand Chief fans no offense. This has been my first time chatting with Chiefs fans and I can honestly say I'm not impressed. I usually can talk football with even Seahawks fans.

If you're not saying that the Cheifs are an unbeatable juggernaught you got flamed in here. Ridiculous

They’re definitely a tough crowd. Rabbs and Burke are really cool tho. They mean no harm. They’re just really pumped for their team. As are we. These are the kinda guys I wanna hang out at the bar with.

staylor26 01-23-2020 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 14746664)
I would say it depends on definition of shut down. I think he gets at least 10 points on you, even if you guys play awesome. He has extremely rare playmaking ability, and I don't think you can totally shut it down for 0 points.

Oh you can REALLY go **** yourself now. 10 ****ing points? This offense fully healthy hasn’t scored less than 26.

What the **** dude?


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