I figured you'd tap out on the RPI discussion. Not much you can say when KU is 1st.

K. I guess when you lose 4 games to superior opponents you gotta make yourself feel better somehow.

Is KU first in wins?

Football isn't even the focus at KU yet still have more a prestigious bowl, more football hall of famers, a 50-50 all time record with the vaunted Mizzou...

Just imagine if KU actually tried.

The only thing getting bukkaked around here are the tv ratings of the 2014 Cotton Bowl.

Mike Alden is soooooooo perfect for Mizzou.

LMAO tap out acknowledged.

What more prestigious bowl did KU win that Mizzou has not? Mizzou has an Orange Bowl win, and twice in the last six years has been one win away from playing for a national championship.....

KU is trying....the amount of money they are paying to ex coaches proves that. They are just failing...in spectacular fashion.

The KU Orange Bowl was a BCS Bowl game.

UCLA is unranked?

It's awesome how crazy he gets over getting shit on by Mizzou. When we went to the SEC, it was, "ha ha, the SEC stuck you in the east". Now, it's, "you're just lucky you're in the east".

If the lying bitch says they are unranked, you can bet the farm they're ranked.

Right now KSU is 46 in Pomeroy, MU is 63 (40 & 52 in Sag). I looked up the all time series and its 119-117 KSU or 118-118 tie if you believe MU.

This begs the question: Why doesn't MU prefer to just keep playing them at Sprint Center?

Poor Mitch Holthus

he is in Oklahoma calling a basketball game.

I guess it is that time of year with the NFL playoffs going on and what not

Also TCU is a terrible addition

would have been better off going back to the big 8 LMAO

Might not want to open this can of worms when KU keeps ducking MU in football.

Why would he lie about something like that?

KU is ducking MU? KU played MU consecutively for 100 years. MU left the series.

I'm not sure how you see that as KU ducking. MU wanted to leave and they got their wish.

You just cannot give up the lie. Mizzou left the series...there has been an open offer to play KU on the table from Mizzou ever since they left. KU left the series. This has been proven over and over again, yet you still lie about it.

That win turned their whole football program around. :clap:

360 degrees

Iowa State and Iowa play each other every year. KU just doesn't have the balls to play Mizzou.

lol, look who it is.

KU played MU in every sport for 100 years whenever they were asked too.

KU destroyed MU in the basketball and was an equal in record when it came to football.

Why would KU give that up? All it meant was wins.

In fact it sucks MU left the series. They represented more wins than any other team KU faced. (except KU and ISU of course)

Right now, the only thing you're bragging about is gaming a computer formula despite having four losses already. Congrats?

MU wanted to continue the series, KU said no. That's how.

So back to my point: since KSU and Mizzou have been basketball peers for 100 years and are peers even today, why aren't they playing in KC? It's exactly equidistant for them both, it will be competitive, and they can finally sell tickets.


I'm sure MU noticed the latest pasting in AFH of their peer program. Why would they want it?

KU doesn't play MU because they don't bring anything to us. It's not beneficial same thing with Wichita St.

You keep ducking SLU. Afraid?

MU stopped the series. They did this the day they stated they were leaving for the SEC.

I'm confused on why you fail to see this. KU is right here.

so, if MU wanted to play, ku would be good to go?

I don't know. I don't work at the KU scheduling office.

I would assume that MU could apply the same as any other opponent in football and basketball.

However KU already plays the #1 schedule in college basketball and there isn't an opening on the football schedule until 2018. So maybe then they could get something put together.

As a SLU fan this is what always gets me with all this bitching. Mizzou does the same shit but its okay SLU is the better team the last few years, and the a10 has a higher conference rpi then the sec

No, KU stopped the series by refusing to play. That is an established fact. KU is the only place in the country that seems to think a rivalry must be maintained within the confines of a conference.

No, we play Illinois instead, dumbass.....wait, how can that be? A rivalry game between 2 teams from different conferences? According to Hypocritson and yourself, that is impossible, and it never happens.

We do have the balls to play isu, though. Why don't you come back to the thread you were smack talking in?

That's why we refer to them as "Mizzouchebags". One standard for others that they don't require of themselves. It's pathetic and embarrassing.

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That would be like you perpetually dodging my questions in this thread while getting on to others about not answering yours (here, DC).

Mizzou does not do the same shit with SLU. SLU does not have a long, running rivalry series (one of the top ones in the nation, and certainly one of the most heated) with Missouri like Kansas does with Mizzou.

It's apples to orangutans.

SLU was better than Missouri last year. Congrats. But it was not better the year before, or the year before that, or the year before that, and that doesn't make it a better overall program.

Funny how SLU really ramps up the talk about playing Mizzou in the 1-2 years every decade it actually has a good team. Where was this talk/outrage in 2010/11?

SLU is welcome to come play Missouri in Columbia, and that has been discussed. The problem is that SLU wants an equal home-and-home series, and Missouri only has a few slots for those, especially since the SEC is a weaker league than the Big 12 and the nonconference schedule needs to be more difficult as a result. It aims higher than A10 schools for those, generally. UCLA, N.C. State, Cal, Illinois, etc.

They've even talked about a 3-for-1 or 2-for-1 deal, but SLU got pissy, apparently.

We'll see how they survive the post-Majerus era. 5 of their top 6 scorers are gone after this year. Can Crews replace that talent?

You have to explain to SLU fans why it's ok to avoid them but not OK for Kansas to avoid you. You don't owe me any explanation, it's for the SLU fans.

As a fan of a Big 12 team I don't see the draw for playing teams from a lesser conference ala the SEC. It can only hurt our profile. Obviously basketball this isn't a competition. Football would be closer I guess but with our flagship whiping their ass with the SEC flagship this year I would be nervous to play teams from that conference. There's really nothing to gain and everything to lose.

Kind of like the flagship Big 12 basketball team getting their tail kicked at the hands of a SEC team this season.

Strong has three years to win the Title or his ass is gone.

Lawls.

Imagine how much more impressive that 6 point win wouldve been if you'd won in Allen Fieldhouse. That would be national news.

Good for Charlie. That's the way it should be.

But pretty much this.

LOL

"Yeah, you beat us, but you didn't beat us HERE, so it's not that big of a deal!!"

Pure awesome.

It's a weird concept I know bowser, so weird the RPI formula (as well as Sag and every other computer) weights road wins significantly higher. The RPI gives something like an extra 40% boost for them. SDSU winning at KU was far more valuable than Fla or CU beating them at home.


I only explain this because you probably didn't know how the data works.

ROFL

You're trying to lessen the impact of a loss. Even with all this data ju-jitsu, it is still a loss.

Sounds to me like you're trying to put lipstick on a turd.

ROFL

Seems very Turner Gill'ish. I wonder how this will work out.

It would have considering the game wasn't played there. Of course, it still made national news. I mean, when a team scores 21 straight points almost right out of the gate and cruises home from there, it gets national attention.

Number 4 cracks me up. That was literally a poster at Louisville.

Yeah, reading some of that Strong stuff, I feel like it's either going to be a smashing success or an epic disaster.

That hardline act can get old in a hurry.

KU has played 11 top 50 RPI teams... Going 7-4. All 4 KU losses were against top 15 RPI teams (2 being true road games).

In Comparison, Mizzou has played all of 2 top 50 RPI teams in UCLA (#35) and Illinois (#39). Going 1-1

I'm not saying 4 losses at this point can be disregarded... but their W\L record is due to the strength of schedule and youth of the team early in the season... that is not arguable. And calling it a "turd" is fairly bewildering.

Wins\Losses without taking SOS into consideration is like looking at a Baseball Pitcher's W\L record while disregarding all other stats.

Especially at a program where the players are treated as deities. This could blow up on Strong, pretty quickly... it just takes a few vocal malcontents to get the masses to fall in line.

The national title? Nah. He needs to have them in the hunt for the Big12 title and have them relevant nationally during that time though.

Agree...Brown only won two Big 12 titles in his entire tenure, and hes the most successful coach they've had in generations. Texas football greatness is one of the biggest myths going.

It certainly keeps the money rolling in, though... so don't tell their Alumni. :)

How bad is the SEC?

Kansas loses to their #1 team and still is #1 in the RPI.

Yeah, when I lived in Austin during the Mackovic years, it had been decades since Texas won a national title and bowl games weren't even an annual occurrence. That didn't seem to dampen the Longhorn ego much though. People seemed convinced that they were one of the best programs in the country, apparently on the basis of lingering memories of Darrell Royal's successes of the 60s and early 70s. I liked supporting the team, but I didn't really understand that.

And it took Mack Brown longer than 3 years to beat Oklahoma, much less win a title of any kind, IIRC. I know the AD has changed, but there's no way the new guy will be looking to get rid of Strong in 3 years just because he fails to bring home the CFP championship.

So SLU is pretty much your Wichita State?

If Wichita State was much less consistent and successful, yes.

Not following. I assume everyone thinks a Fla win over KU would be far more impressive on the road. Surprised you don't see the difference.

They're gullible saps, that's why Alden schedules like he does.



Interesting Pomeroy data today: KU is #1 SoS there as well. The average rated team we have played is #63 which also happens to be.....Mizzou. Incredibly, our avg opponent thru 16 games is Mizzou. And we are 12-4.

To the contrary, St. Louis and Wichita State have been performing at a similar caliber for the last few decades. Since 2006, Wichita State has only averaged 1.5 more wins per season than SLU and both teams only made the tournament in each of the last two seasons.

I think what that means is that KU should schedule MU.

What's really interesting Bambi is Pomeroys "luck" rating shows us at 291/351 schools, or very unlucky. With 3 losses in the final ten seconds, his data suggests with normal luck we'd have one extra win.



So really he's suggesting that if we played Mizzou every game this year and no bad luck occurred, he'd expect us to be 13-3 vs them.

I would say the biggest change in the program was the on campus arena/practice facility. that building has changed everything and it aint going anywhere. the current freshman class is as good as all but one of RM obviously they are not the minutes due to starting 5 seniors (the one great RM class) but they are shining when out there. I would bet the farm that SLU will be back in the tournament not next year (losing 5 seniors starters does that) but the next. with Mizzou's generally weak non conference schedule there is no reason not to do a 1-1-1 one game in both home arenas and one in Scot trade or more than likely the dome. lot of money to be made for both programs

and yes U and Mizzou should be playing out of conference pointlessly losing money guys lets all just be rich

I'd rather see MSU play teams that will give us a game in Springfield anyway, like Arkansas and OK State. Mizzou recruits different players and plays road conference games in a different region. There's really no reason for our paths to cross at this time.

LMAO Kansas fans jerking each other with RPI and SOS. Dontnforget about luckiness too. I guess when you're just another 12-4 team in the rankings you gotta compensate somehow.

12-4 and #1 RPI... but this is definitely a "down" year for Kansas thus far.

Most of KU's rivals would take that as their best year.

What neither of you idiots EVER understand is that no sane Mizzou fan would think we are a better basketball team than you. Some twisted reasoning/projection shows you winning 13 out of 16? Congrats!! It's probably pretty close to accurate, unless we were to steal a game or two bc we play over our heads for a rivalry game. You argue with yourselves and then give each other handies...it's quite funny.

2010-2011 was a season straight out of a hell. At least two of the team's top players were involved with alleged rape(which I believe turned out to be a false claim of rape as Mitchell was cleared and redshirted that season) and that was Majerus' only season under .500 as HC in 20+ years as a HC. Ever.

I think Crews has made huge strides in recruiting. Yes, the recruiting class from last year isn't great, but that's due to staff not recruiting in the fall due to Majerus' absence.

SLU has 3 commits so far for next year, 1 of which should be an immediate upgrade over the projected starting center next year(Manning or Agbeko). Next year, Crews has to show how SLU can play with his players. Losing Jett, Evans, Loe, and McCall is definitely a huge blow, but I think at least Loe can be replaced(I like how he's progressed, but that doesn't mean he isn't replaceable). Losing Evans might hurt more than Jett, but Jett's defensive game is pretty damn good. And his offensive game has improved as well.

Losing Barnett shouldn't be a problem either, though he has played better as of late.

But, there's no reason for Mizzou to play SLU, unless it's at a neutral court(i.e: Sprint Center, though it would probably be predominantly Mizzou basketball fans).

There's absolutely no benefit for Mizzou playing SLU in St. Louis, even at Scottrade.

I do agree with your point about Chaifetz Arena, though. It creates a much better atmosphere for SLU games. While it usually doesn't sell out until later in conference play, it at least seems more filled than playing at the larger Scottrade Center.