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MeatRock 03-31-2013 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 9544617)
But demonpenz...how long will the royals be kicking ass?

LMAO

dmahurin 03-31-2013 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 9544617)
But demonpenz...how long will the royals be kicking ass?

LMAO

tk13 03-31-2013 09:09 PM

It's only been one game, but the Astros are dominating the American League so far.

AndChiefs 03-31-2013 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9544678)
It's only been one game, but the Astros are dominating the American League so far.

Just give them the trophy now. There's always next year, fellas!

chefsos 03-31-2013 09:22 PM

Until tonight, I thought the Royals were gonna be the feel-good story of the AL this year. Sorry guys.

SPchief 03-31-2013 11:08 PM

It's opening day so I'll go ahead and put my prediction out. 88-74 winning the 2nd wildcard

duncan_idaho 04-01-2013 08:24 AM

Posted this in the gameday thread, but for those not subscribed to it:

Prediction: Royals win 86 games (86-76)

Here are the things MOST critical to the Royals' success (I realize Rany just did this, but I have a different outlook in some areas).

1) Hosmer or Moustakas must take a "next step." Quite simply, the Royals can survive with one of these guys being league average IF the other becomes a legitimate star. If both hit, well, the offense goes from "good-enough" to scary.

As Rany pointed out in his final preview piece, Eric Hosmer is in elite company when you look at his performane as a 21-year-old. This is a good sign.

Hosmer's upside: .290/25/100/100/15 SB/.350 OBP/.500 SLG. If he does this and the Royals get expected contributions from Gordon, Butler, the Royals offense will be productive (because it will be getting great production from the 1, 3 and 4 spots - the three most critical in a batting order).

Moustakas' upside: .270/35/100/100/.320 OBP/.500 SLG. We saw this in the first half last season. He couldn't sustain it (partly due to an injury).

2) How good is James Shields? The Royals need James Shields to be one of the 20 best starting pitchers in major league baseball. The good news is that he has easily been one of the top 20 over the past two seasons. The bad news is that he wasn't before then.

Shields made a major approach change before the 2011 season (I have broken this down before, but short way to say it is that he started relying more heavily on his change and his curve, pitching backwards a lot of the time), so there's some reason to set his pre-2011 pitching to the side. If Shields is indeed the second-best pitcher in the division, the Royals will be in good shape.

3) Health. Most notably, Lorenzo Cain, Sal Perez and Mike Moustakas. The Royals have no real replacements in-system who can match what these three guys can do. An injury to Cain weakens the Royals' bat in CF and also makes it harder to sit Francoeur if/when he sucks. An injury to Perez takes away a 4-5 WAR player, which is tough to replace. And an injury to Mike Moustakas probably means starts from either Miguel Tejada or Elliott Johnson, neither of which is ideal.

4) The rest of the rotation. Santana, Guthrie and Davis are a key cog in this machine. We can be pretty confident those guys are going to eat about 600 innings. 2 of the 3 must eat them at at least a solid No. 3 starter level to really make this whole thing work.

The Royals blog community doesn't see it. I can. I don't expect a full season of Jeremy Guthrie at 3.16 ERA and 1.15 WHIP, but I can see a full season of 3.75 ERA and 1.20 WHIP, which is just fine as a No. 3. This is based on Guthrie's past performances, especially when he was an Oriole pitching away from Camden Yard. When he's in a park that is not overly HR friendly, he has been a pretty successful guy.

On Santana, the guy is so inconsistent it's hard to say anything with certainty. But I look at his second-half performance, his unlucky HR/Flyball rate, and his contract year status... and think there's a good chance we see at least "good" Ervin this year. If "at-his-best" Ervin shows up, you're talking about a true No. 2 starter, not a No. 3.

And finally, on Davis... the guy has shown he can pitch at least at a No. 5 starter level. If he has improved at all with age and with the lessons he learned in the bullpen a season ago, that jumps up.

Fansy the Famous Bard 04-01-2013 08:43 AM

I truly love the personnel game part of baseball. This is the first time in awhile were I feel that the Royals have the pieces to do something... unfortunately, you see a lot of the same stupidity littered in there as well (Hock, Chen, Frenchy, Getz, Tejada)...

Wasted money and roster spots... Comprising of 20% the roster. GMDM has the opportunity of his career right now, and he still can't get out of his own way.

duncan_idaho 04-01-2013 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 9545469)
I truly love the personnel game part of baseball. This is the first time in awhile were I feel that the Royals have the pieces to do something... unfortunately, you see a lot of the same stupidity littered in there as well (Hock, Chen, Frenchy, Getz, Tejada)...

Wasted money and roster spots... Comprising of 20% the roster. GMDM has the opportunity of his career right now, and he still can't get out of his own way.

Hochevar is the worst example of this, by far.

I won't gripe with Chen (had a feeling at the time that second year might be a burden, but in the end you're talking about very little cash).

I would be a hypocrite to criticize the Francoeur deal. At the time, I wasn't crazy about it but I understood it. They offered Cabrera the same deal, and he turned it down. Wil MYers was in the midst of a .250 campaign with no power and looked at least 2-3 years away.

I didn't expect him to repeat 2011, but I also didn't expect him to regress so far so quickly (he was worse last year than he ever was before).

Considering the way Gio has played, I actually am OK with the small deal offered to Getz. He isn't going to help you, but he shouldn't kill you.

Tejada is a good example of Moore clinging to the old ways/thoughts in baseball. He's a veteran who has been there and is being given a minor role (25th man on the bench) because of his "leadership" ability. He likely plays very little (god I hope that's it).

Demonpenz 04-01-2013 09:12 AM

It would be nice for Detriot and other teams not to preform up to expectations.

gblowfish 04-01-2013 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9545503)

Tejada is a good example of Moore clinging to the old ways/thoughts in baseball. He's a veteran who has been there and is being given a minor role (25th man on the bench) because of his "leadership" ability. He likely plays very little (god I hope that's it).

Beis baw been berry berry gut to eeem.

Deberg_1990 04-01-2013 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 9545506)
It would be nice for Detriot and other teams not to preform up to expectations.

Well, part of that means the Royals are taking the next step. They have to learn how to beat these guys since they play them so much.


BTW, i havent seen anyone mention the Indians much? Some things ive read say they are better than the Royals this year. True or not?

duncan_idaho 04-01-2013 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9545526)
Well, part of that means the Royals are taking the next step. They have to learn how to beat these guys since they play them so much.


BTW, i havent seen anyone mention the Indians much? Some things ive read say they are better than the Royals this year. True or not?

Lineup is more proven and has fewer questions than the Royals' (though they have similar upside).

Their rotation is pretty bad, though. Masterson is a slightly better version of Hochevar. Jiminez is a shell of his old self and has been bad for 2.5 years (not bad for him, just flat-out BAD). Brett Myers is possibly a solid 3. McCallister is bad, and Scott Kazmir is a nice story but an extreme longshot.

Bullpen looks to be solid/good. But a step down from KC's.

alnorth 04-01-2013 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9545555)
Lineup is more proven and has fewer questions than the Royals' (though they have similar upside).

Their rotation is pretty bad, though. Masterson is a slightly better version of Hochevar. Jiminez is a shell of his old self and has been bad for 2.5 years (not bad for him, just flat-out BAD). Brett Myers is possibly a solid 3. McCallister is bad, and Scott Kazmir is a nice story but an extreme longshot.

Bullpen looks to be solid/good. But a step down from KC's.

Yeah, I don't know why, but the media is always in love with the idea of the Indians contending, but not us. So, they overlook the Indians problems and nitpick the Royals to death.

The Indians could beat us, but on paper they shouldn't.

duncan_idaho 04-01-2013 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 9545592)
Yeah, I don't know why, but the media is always in love with the idea of the Indians contending, but not us. So, they overlook the Indians problems and nitpick the Royals to death.

The Indians could beat us, but on paper they shouldn't.

Because:

1) They have been good more recently
2) They have more names as a result (Jiminez is still looked at as an enigmatic guy who could FIND IT by many, rather than as a guy who has lost it and isn't getting it back, for example)

sedated 04-01-2013 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9545555)
Jiminez is a shell of his old self and has been bad for 2.5 years (not bad for him, just flat-out BAD).

Man, that trade realy burned Cleveland.

duncan_idaho 04-01-2013 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 9545665)
Man, that trade realy burned Cleveland.

Yeah, but the guys they gave up have ended up sucking.

Pomeranz and Alex White have both been Hochevar-esque for the Rockies, and the other guys are non-factors.

Deberg_1990 04-01-2013 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9545617)
Because:

1) They have been good more recently
2) They have more names as a result (Jiminez is still looked at as an enigmatic guy who could FIND IT by many, rather than as a guy who has lost it and isn't getting it back, for example)

Plus, they added a "name" manager

kc rush 04-01-2013 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 9545592)
Yeah, I don't know why, but the media is always in love with the idea of the Indians contending, but not us. So, they overlook the Indians problems and nitpick the Royals to death.

The Indians could beat us, but on paper they shouldn't.

The Royals were a petty trendy pick last year, then the extended losing streak happened. I'm sure there are guys out there that don't want to get "burned again."

gblowfish 04-01-2013 06:39 PM

I was watching MLB network. They were saying the Yanks need to deal off Cano because he's 30 years old, and Boras wants a 10 year $200 million contract. The pinheads on MLB network go "Well, they should send him to the Dodgers or Angels, and then buy Bryce Harper in four years when he comes on the market for $200 million."

Royals spend $77 mill, and that's our high water mark.

Sigh....

The economics of baseball just flat out sucks.

Mother****erJones 04-01-2013 06:41 PM

God **** the Yankees

Cephalic Trauma 04-01-2013 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life (Post 9547438)
God **** the Yankees

Stick to the GT. Don't mess this one up, too

Mother****erJones 04-01-2013 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma (Post 9547446)
Stick to the GT. Don't mess this one up, too

What? Just said **** the yankees. I was responding to his post about them getting big name free agents

Mother****erJones 04-01-2013 06:54 PM

Whats GT stand for?

Reaper16 04-01-2013 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life (Post 9547487)
Whats GT stand for?

Gamethread.

Mother****erJones 04-01-2013 06:57 PM

I didnt mess the game thread up. Your fellow Royals fans shit on me for being a White Sox fan. I didnt talk shit until they started saying shit. Thought id follow along that thread since im a Sox fan.

Mama Hip Rockets 04-01-2013 08:02 PM

Does anybody have video of Jeremy Guthrie doing his Rex Hudler impersonations during spring training? Can't find anything on google.

Brianfo 04-01-2013 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life (Post 9547498)
I didnt mess the game thread up. Your fellow Royals fans shit on me for being a White Sox fan. I didnt talk shit until they started saying shit. Thought id follow along that thread since im a Sox fan.

Find a new board Fuqtard. DT would be ashamed of you.

Mother****erJones 04-01-2013 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Brianfo (Post 9547715)
Find a new board Fuqtard. DT would be ashamed of you.

Ya ok pencil dick. **** yourself. Your parents are ashamed of you

Mother****erJones 04-01-2013 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Brianfo (Post 9547715)
Find a new board Fuqtard. DT would be ashamed of you.

Thats why your rep is in red douchebag

Brianfo 04-01-2013 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life (Post 9547739)
Thats why your rep is in red douchebag

Oh my god, my rep is in red. I don't give two ****ing shits about rep. Gayer than aids. Do you give out blow jobs or free fisting to get on green? Just saying.

Brianfo 04-01-2013 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life (Post 9547739)
Thats why your rep is in red douchebag

Join date 2012. Is that when you got your first computer? Just saying.

Demonpenz 04-01-2013 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by thurman merman (Post 9547686)
Does anybody have video of Jeremy Guthrie doing his Rex Hudler impersonations during spring training? Can't find anything on google.

just listen to rex hudler that is what it sounded like...to a T

Mother****erJones 04-01-2013 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Brianfo (Post 9547762)
Join date 2012. Is that when you got your first computer? Just saying.

Oh nice one very stupid comeback slappy

Mama Hip Rockets 04-01-2013 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 9547768)
just listen to rex hudler that is what it sounded like...to a T

Haha, I know. I saw it. I was just trying to look it up to show a friend.

Brianfo 04-01-2013 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life (Post 9547770)
Oh nice one very stupid comeback slappy

good luck in your future endeavors. i know how its gonna turn out,

Mother****erJones 04-01-2013 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Brianfo (Post 9547876)
good luck in your future endeavors. i know how its gonna turn out,

Ya have fun raping your dog

Shogun 04-01-2013 09:37 PM

New Perez T shirt by Dethrone

http://www.dethrone.com/collections/...perez-training

Archie F. Swin 04-02-2013 10:19 AM

Wil Myers not in the starting lineup today in TB.

:hmmm:

KCUnited 04-02-2013 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin (Post 9549119)
Wil Myers not in the starting lineup today in TB.

:hmmm:

He's starting the season in AAA.

Deberg_1990 04-02-2013 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 9549141)
He's starting the season in AAA.

Yea, thats been pretty well known for awhile now.....Makes me wonder though, would he have started the season in AAA if he was still a Royal?

Ceej 04-02-2013 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9549154)
Yea, thats been pretty well known for awhile now.....Makes me wonder though, would he have started the season in AAA if he was still a Royal?

Yes.

alnorth 04-02-2013 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Shogun (Post 9547967)

"plate protection dept"

ROFL

AndChiefs 04-02-2013 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 9549206)
"plate protection dept"

ROFL

Awesome

TLO 04-02-2013 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9549154)
Yea, thats been pretty well known for awhile now.....Makes me wonder though, would he have started the season in AAA if he was still a Royal?

And unseat GMDM's homeboy Frenchy? Unlikely.

Archie F. Swin 04-02-2013 11:21 AM

but...but....I thought we we're gonna roll Myers into KC after the all-star break 2012 and he was gonna be King George II?

alnorth 04-02-2013 11:23 AM

Rany lays out and then defends an 86-76 prediction for this season.

Mr. Laz 04-02-2013 11:27 AM

lipstick on a pig

Deberg_1990 04-02-2013 11:29 AM

So....just gonna throw this out there...

WIth the high expectations, if the Royals have another bad April start, will Yost get canned?

Demonpenz 04-02-2013 11:30 AM

I think Yost is in trouble if they come back on the homestand 1-5 or something like that. Lots of dollars to be lost if there isn't some hype.

stonedstooge 04-02-2013 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9549411)
So....just gonna thorw this out there...

WIth the high expectations, if the Royals have another bad April start, will Yost get canned?

I thought he should have been canned last year

alnorth 04-02-2013 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9549411)
So....just gonna throw this out there...

WIth the high expectations, if the Royals have another bad April start, will Yost get canned?

I sure hope not. Yost has been the least-stupid, least-damaging manager we've had since I began following the Royals. The odds that we'd get someone worse are very, very high.

All anger and frustration should be directed at the GM. Out of all major sports, the Manager/head coach position for MLB in the AL is the least-relevant. You could put a genious on a bad team or a fool on a great team and not see much difference.

gblowfish 04-02-2013 02:22 PM

Yost is a boob. Just ask the entire city of Milwaukee.

Demonpenz 04-02-2013 02:33 PM

Ben Zobriest just parked one against the Orials

CaliforniaChief 04-02-2013 02:41 PM

Yes, Yost will get canned if it's a slow start...and by slow, I mean falling into the danger zone (7-10 games back).

GMDM went all in. Well, he didn't trade for Stanton...but pretty much is all in.

Demonpenz 04-02-2013 02:55 PM

Tampa Bay just grabbed the lead, but David Price is at 100 pitches through 5.

Demonpenz 04-02-2013 03:00 PM

David Price is out Mcgee is in for the #Rays.

Demonpenz 04-02-2013 03:15 PM

Chris Davis parks one and baltimore breaks it open.

Demonpenz 04-02-2013 03:19 PM

Jamie Wright the formal royal is on for the #Rays

Deberg_1990 04-02-2013 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 9549893)
Yost is a boob. Just ask the entire city of Milwaukee.

yep

Brianfo 04-02-2013 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 9549418)
I think Yost is in trouble if they come back on the homestand 1-5 or something like that. Lots of dollars to be lost if there isn't some hype.

Lol. In trouble after 6 games in. You guys need to get a grip. This team is much better than last year and will be in the hunt all year. Penz, I expect better from you as a Royal supporter. There aren't many true Royals fans on this board. Step away from the ledge.

Nightfyre 04-02-2013 06:37 PM

This board has at least a dozen true royals fans!

Demonpenz 04-02-2013 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Brianfo (Post 9550955)
Lol. In trouble after 6 games in. You guys need to get a grip. This team is much better than last year and will be in the hunt all year. Penz, I expect better from you as a Royal supporter. There aren't many true Royals fans on this board. Step away from the ledge.


I wasn't saying I agree with it. I am saying and I am far from the ledge. I am saying that I think the Royals front office would really be leaning towards a change if there is no buzz at the staduim. The All-Star game has come and gone..it is go time.

Brianfo 04-02-2013 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 9550961)
I wasn't saying I agree with it. I am saying and I am far from the ledge. I am saying that I think the Royals front office would really be leaning towards a change if there is no buzz at the staduim. The All-Star game has come and gone..it is go time.

Word. Just ribbing you a little. I bought tickets for my whole family on StubHub for opening day at the K. Always been on my bucket list, get to cross it off next Monday. Something just tells me this year is gonna be different. God I hope so. If the Royals could just compete, this town would go crazy.

Just gotta get thru April/May without laying an egg. Then the kids come around.

stonedstooge 04-02-2013 06:45 PM

I wish Yost would get fired up more often. He may not have the demeanor for it, I don't know. But seems to me when you got a young team, if you go to war for your players, they'll go to war for you. I think that's a missing piece to this team with Ned at the helm.

Demonpenz 04-02-2013 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Brianfo (Post 9550970)
Word. Just ribbing you a little. I bought tickets for my whole family on StubHub for opening day at the K. Always been on my bucket list, get to cross it off next Monday. Something just tells me this year is gonna be different. God I hope so. If the Royals could just compete, this town would go crazy.

Just gotta get thru April/May without laying an egg. Then the kids come around.

Yeah...there will be alot of bunting in that game. Both around the staduim and with yost ...on the field

waka waka waka

Demonpenz 04-02-2013 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 9550974)
I wish Yost would get fired up more often. He may not have the demeanor for it, I don't know. But seems to me when you got a young team, if you go to war for your players, they'll go to war for you. I think that's a missing piece to this team with Ned at the helm.

They need Michael Tucker and his crazy eyes with that "OH YOU MESSED WITH ME" look.

stonedstooge 04-02-2013 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 9550983)
They need Michael Tucker and his crazy eyes with that "OH YOU MESSED WITH ME" look.

I think it's a big part of why Frenchy is still here.

Brianfo 04-02-2013 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 9550976)
Yeah...there will be alot of bunting in that game. Both around the staduim and with yost ...on the field

waka waka waka

We haven't bunted once so far this year. Crazy talk.

Demonpenz 04-02-2013 06:51 PM

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Demonpenz 04-02-2013 06:51 PM

LOOK AT THAT HOMERUN BY MICHAEL TUCKER. YOU WANT TO MESS WITH HIM? HE'S CRAZY!!!

Mother****erJones 04-02-2013 06:52 PM

I have a cousin named Michael Tucker. Hes no baseball player though lol

Demonpenz 04-02-2013 06:56 PM

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Demonpenz 04-02-2013 06:58 PM

YEAH HE ATE YOUR SHIT TWICE? WHAT WHAT?

DeezNutz 04-02-2013 07:01 PM

Yeah, "Tuck" would have taken one off the ****ing ribs after that. And the catcher would have had zero balls had he also not let him know exactly why, as he's holding his bruised shit.

Cephalic Trauma 04-02-2013 07:09 PM

This opening day monday, no game tuesday bull shit is such a tease.

Ebolapox 04-02-2013 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 9551438)
Yu Darvish is perfect through 7 in his first MLB start.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index...1&mode=gameday

errrrrrr......... you mean his first MLB start this year? he was 16-9 last year. he definitely has started before for the Rangers.

Ceej 04-02-2013 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma (Post 9551065)
This opening day monday, no game tuesday bull shit is such a tease.

This. Stupid.

teedubya 04-02-2013 10:02 PM

I had a dream last night that the Royals go 1-2 vs. Chi Sox and get swept by the Philadelphia... to start the season 1-5 for opening day at the K.

OUR TIME!

AndChiefs 04-02-2013 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 9551991)
I had a dream last night that the Royals go 1-2 vs. Chi Sox and get swept by the Philadelphia... to start the season 1-5 for opening day at the K.

OUR TIME!

You need to work on your dreaming skills.


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