You guys are the ones who seem to think you're too good for the rest of us in the Big 12....


I'm just saying, given the choices, it's no surprise MU-ISU got left out of tv.

In fairness, I'm pretty sure Mike Slive has Kirk Schulz's number as well.

It would seem that MU isn't the only one that thinks the Tigers have a bit of a leg up on the EPAWS.

But again - congrats on getting a couple more drops of blood out of Grandpa Snyder's corpse. It should keep you guys going when you hit the lean seasons here in about 3 years.

No, we're the ones hoping that there's an opportunity to unsubscribe from LHC, which any sensible university would do. Otherwise, we'll, like the rest of the chumps, continue suckling.

I am just hoping we get some resolution tomorrow. Following twitter like it's your job tends to wear on a man.

Following Twitter isn't my job?

{checks desk and voicemails....retreats in alarm}

Holy shit - I have some serious work to do. Later fellas.

The WVU tweeters..Blueandgold or whatever it is, seem to think that Mizzou is staying, not sure if they have any sources, or if they are just wishful thinking because they want the spot in the SEC.

yeah, that's what the Big10 fiasco was about too, right?

What Neinas should have said is that John Q. Mizzou Fan can get in the car and drive to Ames, Manhattan and Lawrence. Which interestingly enough, are the three worst road trips in the conference.

Otherwise, fan travel is pretty similar.

Fayetteville is closer than Lincoln was.

Oxford, Nashville and Lexington are similar distances from Columbia as Norman and Stillwater.

The entire SEC, sans Florida and SC are closer than all of the B12 schools in Texas.

I think Neinas is underestimating the Mizzou fanbase. If I were a Tigers fan, I'd drive 600 miles to see Mizzou play in Tuscaloosa or Knoxville before driving 300 to see them play in Ames.

To get away from an unstable and Texas-centric conference? Yeah. LHC = Longhorn Cack.

The current LHN just perpetuates the problem and ensures that all this bullshit will resurface in the future the first time another university has the opportunity to get the **** out of this mess.

LMAO

This is absolutely correct, and he is just grasping at straws now to try and scare the undecided portion of the fanbase.

Neinas also said that Missouri should stay "because of the basketball tournament at Kemper Arena."

So it's pretty clear that our new interim bitch is in the loop.

Neinas is looking more and more like a complete out of touch idiot. As well as the guy seems to be respected, is it just an act or what?

No "proud member of the Big XII conference" statements by Mizzou today...so that is a good sign. :)

Surely you jest.

Neinas also asked how Mizzou could leave the Big 12 and end Norm Stewart's yearly battles with Billy Tubbs, Johnny Orr, and Jack Hartman.

ROFL

Jesus this thread sucks now

Could be on their own network had they chosen to have one, instead they chose to bitch about others' after they voted to allow them.

This thread has HIV...

You mean you don't want to get into a protracted argument about whether or not a particular school invented Homecoming, Journalism, the Gutenberg Press, sliced bread and nerf basketball?

I look forward to the day we are members of a conference without a man named Christine.

i'm noticing a trend

NEW Conference Talk (Sauls thread smells like a KU Tri-Delts cooter After Homecoming)
 

Back on track....so MU is set to vote to leave or not leave at 4:00pm Tuesday. Chuck Neinas is more senile that your grandpa who cooked with teflon and aluminum pans all his life. And ATM has a guy named Christine.

What else is going on?

Filter evasion on the threat title.

I haven't really been paying attention, as I don't tend to go in Saul's threads. Can someone give me the skinny on the latest rumors? If MU signs to leave, where would they be going? Haven't heard the latest on that, either.

I'm sorry KSU has no leverage but be glad that MU is looking out for the "special" kids in the conference. Don't expect any KSU, ISU or BU fans to understand that the pressure MU is exerting on Bevo is helping you guys out.

Get real, IF MU is leaving as rumored, that has ZERO to do with anyone but MU. Don't act like you're trying to save us.....you certainly weren't last year.

The $EC.

If we take concessions and stay itll be a nice boost to you.

Agreed there is no nobole reason but the outcome will be positive for the have nots of the league.

Is that really what you think he said?

he's implying that MU is doing it to help out the rest of the conference, standing up the the big bad bully.

Oh please, wake up. Mizzou is trying for the same equality that KSU, ISU, KU, and others should be trying for but are afraid to speak out of turn. Shared revenue, clear rules for LHN and tier 3 rights, etc. If you guys would have just banded with us instead of leaving us on an island it probably would have had a bigger impact on UT.

And aren't this year.

But lets face it, you fellas that are hiding behind UT's skirts aren't doing anyone any favors at all.

At least MU might do something to help the sorry band of stragglers that are still blindly suckling on whatever UT puts in their mouths. Lord knows you fellas weren't inclined to do any actual heavy lifting on your own.

Sure, it's self-interested, but while you guys were coming up with this:

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MU was actually drawing a line in the sand. If we stick around, the pack of sniveling ingrates that is currently lobbing rocks at MU will be better off for our insubordination when we dared actually lobby for UT to make changes.

Yeah - you fellas should totally be indignant. Afterall, you've clearly been instrumental to the changes being considered by the XII.

I wonder if they are pressing for merit based bowl slotting.

That would be welcome.

Wow! You really have a problem with comprehension huh? I give up!

No, he really isn't.

Go back to hoping KU's basketball program can get you a spot in a major conference.

That is something that has not been mentioned, but I would think Mizzou would be the first to bring that up. Of course, KU would be opposed to such a fair rule.

I'm in the minority, but frankly I don't understand the expectation of equality. Some schools DO earn more than others in rights, and that is great for them. I would have liked to see a more balanced share, for sure, but I'm not going to hate on UT for having clout and the draw to earn more. I am against the LHN showing high school games or highlights due to the unfair recruiting advantages, but I don't hate UT for their tv deal any more than I dislike Notre Dame for their deal. That is just jealousy talking.....everyone of us would take the cash if it was available.

Pft - KU wouldn't give a shit.

Afterall, what are the odds of them managing to miss OU and UT in the same season, get their asses kicked on a neutral sight and then back into a BCS bid again?

Let's face it - they aren't worried about that perfect storm of butt-****ing-lucky happening ever again. Sweet Lew only had one soul to sell to get that deal.

The expectation is based on what the best conferences in the country already have in place. But if you are content to be SWCjr and let Texas run wild until they blow it up and move on, so be it. I just hope Mizzou isn't still around to have to pick up the pieces.

clarify this for me then:
I'm sorry KSU has no leverage but be glad that MU is looking out for the "special" kids in the conference."

I know - right?

How the hell else would a tiny agricultural school in the middle of nowhere Kansas that has possibly the worst football program in the history of the sport sans a few glory years under a rapidly aging retiree actually be allowed to play in a major conference?

Keep everything you can get, UT - EkoKat's got your back.

I believe they are...along with reform of the LHN & getting the Big 12 back up to 12 teams with divisions.

I believe you can stop reading a post literally when he refers to an institution of higher learning as "the special kids"...

But hey, that's just me.

Listening to Neinas from earlier on whb....this guy really seems out of it, not sure if he is really that slow, or if he is just trying to pull the wool over the fans eyes.

I loved the dude's resume.

Then I heard him give an interview that I'm 90% certain was literally done from a golf-course.

It appears that he's agonizingly overmatched right now. 90% of the posters on this thread seem more qualified to speak to the machinations of the XII than Chuck Neinas does right now.

I agree...not sure how that effects what will happen with Mizzou.

I think he is the perfect man for the job in UT's eyes.

I saw earlier that he mentioned the bball tourney being played at Kemper. I can understand misspeaking about something like that, as when he was Big 8 commish, that was the location. When he starts reading his junk mail and getting all codgity, I'll recommend him to replace Andy Rooney.

Neinas did say that Mizzou would be part of the BIG XII when finally pressed by KK.

he's been touting that line. All public indications from Mizzou certainly contradict though.

I listened to that and then switched to 610 where he was interviewed immediately afterwards.

Basically, he sounds like the CEO of a publicly listed company. He isn't going to say anything of substance to Joe Blow. He picks his words very carefully and sticks to the point he wants to make. Being careful may sound like he's slow but Neinas is a smart guy if you listen to him.

I certainly hope so.

Since when is Lawrence one of the worst road trips? Have you ever been there? I know Lubbock, Waco and Stillwater are hot spots and everyone wants to go there. :rolleyes:

I don't get the feeling that he's unintelligent - rather simply uninformed or uninvested.

He just gives off a very half-assed vibe to me. I half expect him to say "let them eat cake" at some point.

Is the 610 bit worth listening too, or did he just restate what he said on 810?

He was diplomatic and made no big announcement or anything. He only allows 10 minutes, so it's not a long interview.

He seems confident that MU will stay in the Big XII. He doesn't give any details about why.

in a related note, is there any message board more annoying in format than Tigerboard?

The football atmosphere in Lawrence is ****ing pathetic - as is most of the B12. The best B12 road trip for Mizzou fans just left for the B1G.

Who gives a shit if Lawrence is only 170 miles from Columbia? Any real football fan would likely rather drive the extra distance to see Mizzou play in a SEC stadium.

Neinas is trying (and failing) to make a point about travel should Mizzou leave. Dude's grasping at straws.

****ing horrible.

What? When was the last KU football game you went to? And how many tickets were you able to get from Nebraska for one of their home games?

Missouri fans don't travel well. Hell, they don't even travel to Columbia for basketball games.

Hell, ku fans don't travel to Arrowhead for a supposed rivalry game.

Hell Most MU fans are at WOF on Sundays anyway...

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I believe that ticket sales for both sides has been about even until last year.

I believe you didn't attend or watch last year's game if you think that. If you'd like I can dig up some pictures of the raucous ku crowd.

You must be an MU fan. You have NO reading comprehension AT ALL. Jesus!

And? Why does this have to be a dick measuring contest?

I am a KU fan and I dont give a flying **** about what OTWP says about my fan experience on Gameday...

Its what you make of it anyway. I have had just as much fun at KU as I have watching games in Clemson, OU, Tulane, Florida St and South Carolina...

Hell I am sure if I want to MU to watch a game it would be a blast regardless of who is playing...

I'm not claiming Mizzou football fans travel well. I have no idea.

Then again, I can understand why they wouldn't. Who the **** wants to go to Lawrence, Ames and Manhattan?

Regardless of if they travel or not, Neinas' argument is desperate at best.

Who the hell wants to go to Columbia? That's not an argument. I'm sure all the fans of the SEC are praying and praying that MU joins their hillbilly league so they can travel for some of that Missouri kulture.

Going to Columbia is a much better experience then going to see Mass St. hippies and announcers going ape shit over a last second win over NIU.

Ignorance is your strong point, by a mile.

Fine, there are not hippies on Mass St and your announcer didn't go apeshit over a last second win against NIU.

*throwing up hands* LMAO

Wow, you're really keeping track of this, aren't you?

No one said anything about going to Columbia. Well, beside you.

Neinas made an ignorant comment saying that "John Q. Fan, he can get in the car and drive to Big 12 games. Besides, Missouri is Midwestern, not Southern."

To which I posted:



It's a poor attempt at persuading Mizzou fans that the B12 is a better option.

Mainly, as a KU grad, I don't give a shit about you're biased opinion. Have you actually been on the KU campus and seen any of the really interesting academia? Ya know, the stuff that people study and care about?

I absolutely have. It is a fun place to be. I like Liberty hall and Free State brewing company. I have been tapped to do photography on campus.

Having said all that, lets not pretend it is a great destination for Saturday football which is funny because it seems you agree. You went from defending the football destination cred in Lawrence to propping up its academia. That is fine and all...the campus isn't that impressive but the area absolutely is.

You insulted going to Lawrence, so Stewie responded by comparing Columbia, anyway that is what I read.