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Sassy Squatch 02-11-2025 05:18 PM

The **** you mean he got shafted? He was cleared for play and immediately got hurt because he's a broken down vet that's missed games in 6/9 seasons.

Wallymo 02-11-2025 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17964873)
They're all gonna have big red warts unless you luck into a great pick or Suamataia miraculously becomes good.

Would it take a miracle for Kingsley to be an average or better LT next season? He appears to be the physical prototype. Reid, who you would think knows offensive linemen, thought enough of him to start him in his first game as a rookie.

Reid was wrong, of course. But it does make me wonder what kind of progress was made in practice during the season and how Kingsley might look in his second camp. I think that, barring good fortune otherwise falling in our lap, Suamataia is the team's starting left tackle next season. If there is any way at all for it to work, it has to be the first option.

Shields68 02-11-2025 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 17965023)
This Is (probably) the Way

He got absolutely shafted upon his arrival here, he deserves a full chance to go earn it with a full program under his belt

Our training staff, Dr.s and coaches should have an idea by now if he will improve by spring training.

Sassy Squatch 02-11-2025 05:25 PM

Missed half the 2022 with a back injury. Missed games in 2023 and most of 2024 with the ACL. These are ability altering injuries, on top of the fact his availability has been ****ing trash. He's not a worthwhile answer to any questions you ask. You want a redemption story/bridge, go get Wills. You want a long term starter with some questions, go get Robinson

In58men 02-11-2025 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Wallymo (Post 17965027)
Would it take a miracle for Kingsley to be an average or better LT next season? He appears to be the physical prototype. Reid, who you would think knows offensive linemen, thought enough of him to start him in his first game as a rookie.

Reid was wrong, of course. But it does make me wonder what kind of progress was made in practice during the season and how Kingsley might look in his second camp. I think that, barring good fortune otherwise falling in our lap, Suamataia is the team's starting left tackle next season. If there is any way at all for it to work, it has to be the first option.

Yep, we spent the 2nd round on him so we need to see if he was worth it.

FloridaMan88 02-11-2025 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 17965023)
This Is (probably) the Way

He got absolutely shafted upon his arrival here, he deserves a full chance to go earn it with a full program under his belt

He couldn’t even beat out a freaking career guard at LT.

He’s a broke dick.

No more broke dicks or failed rookie projects that Andy Heck cannot develop.

Time for a proven commodity… Jake Matthews.

Jake Matthews at LT + Thuney at LG and Mahomes’ blind side is finally properly secured.

Sassy Squatch 02-11-2025 05:30 PM

Oh, and if the Rams actually let Alaric Jackson hit the open market forge his signature if need be, get that ****er in here

DRM08 02-11-2025 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17965035)
He couldn’t even beat out a freaking career guard at LT.

He’s a broke dick.

No more broke dicks or failed rookie projects that Andy Heck cannot develop.

Time for a proven commodity… Jake Matthews.

Jake Matthews at LT + Thuney at LG and Mahomes’ blind side is finally properly secured.

Until Jake Matthews goes down with a career ending injury like Eric Fisher. Matthews is 33 years old, 3 years older than Fisher was at the time of his injury. There are no good options. It's all a gamble.

It would be nice if Kingsley makes a huge leap forward in Year 2. The Chiefs team is due for some better luck at the LT position. Other teams have had it. Josh Allen has had the same dude at LT for 99% of his games the last 7 years.

Bump 02-11-2025 05:33 PM

which team is going to trade us a Willie Roaf like the Saints did when Dickie V came to town?

Easy 6 02-11-2025 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17964979)
Interesting thought.

Big guys do generally need more time after ACLs.

I could see the pathway to, "let's sign DJ for $8M instead of signing Cam Robinson for $20M who may not be any better"... especially if/when BAL re-signs Stanley.

And then if LT is your BPA in the draft, you still do that.

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17965025)
The **** you mean he got shafted? He was cleared for play and immediately got hurt because he's a broken down vet that's missed games in 6/9 seasons.

DJ basically got two gulps of coffee here before he was thrown straight into the fire

Pugs nails it, would you rather go 8 or 20 million for probably the same overall production?

pugsnotdrugs19 02-11-2025 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17965037)
Oh, and if the Rams actually let Alaric Jackson hit the open market forge his signature if need be, get that ****er in here

He’s got Joe Thuney length.

Sassy Squatch 02-11-2025 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 17965044)
DJ basically got two gulps of coffee here before he was thrown straight into the fire

Pugs nails it, would you rather go 8 or 20 million for probably the same overall production?

Neither, but Cam Robinson isn't anywhere near the brokedick Humphries is so there's a much greater chance I'm not just burning 8 million on absolutely nothing.

FloridaMan88 02-11-2025 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17965041)
Until Jake Matthews goes down with a career ending injury like Eric Fisher. Matthews is 33 years old, 3 years older than Fisher was at the time of his injury. There are no good options. It's all a gamble.

Matthews hasn’t missed a start in 11 years.

And he has arguably the best genetics in terms of longevity in NFL history.

Sassy Squatch 02-11-2025 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17965046)
He’s got Joe Thuney length.

Cool. He just absolutely shut down the Eagles pass rushers. 1 pressure in 50 Stafford drop backs. At that point the dude could cosplay a ****ing T Rex if he wants to, he gets results.

Sassy Squatch 02-11-2025 05:40 PM

His worst games of the season were against Nick Bosa twice and Maxx Crosby. 3 pressures in each matchup. Those are his WORST games.


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