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OnTheWarpath15 09-30-2024 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17717584)
Johnson is a FA after this year IIRC.

Why wouldn't you move a guy you aren't bringing back or one who's gonna hit FA?

He is.

Like I said, they may not do it, but they'd be foolish to not even consider it.

$7M in cap savings, more snaps for Legette and Mingo and draft capital.

Dante84 09-30-2024 11:24 AM

If I'm Veach/Reid, I'm looking for a high-floor starter to replace some of Rice's production.

I don't see this potential move as fun way to kick the tires on a high-ceiling/low-floor guy that hasn't worked out, which is Veach's typical move.

This scenario calls for immediate production in a year where we can go for a three-peat. With that being the case, combined with it being a poor draft year AND us having an extra pick, this might be a rare scenario where Veach flops his dick on the table with a big swing.

I'm not sure how the cap works if we go for an top-tier / high-contract guy.

List of WR Contracts: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/contract.../wr/sort/value

Mecca 09-30-2024 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17717606)
If I'm Veach/Reid, I'm looking for a high-floor starter to replace some of Rice's production.

I don't see this potential move as fun way to kick the tires on a high-ceiling/low-floor guy that hasn't worked out, which is Veach's typical move.

This scenario calls for immediate production in a year where we can go for a three-peat. With that being the case, combined with it being a poor draft year AND us having an extra pick, this might be a rare scenario where Veach flops his dick on the table with a big swing.

I'm not sure how the cap works if we go for an top-tier / high-contract guy.

List of WR Contracts: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/contract.../wr/sort/value

I literally just read something saying next years draft sucks, there's currently 10 players with first round grades.

Dante84 09-30-2024 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17717609)
I literally just read something saying next years draft sucks, there's currently 10 players with first round grades.

Exactly. And if anyone has a pulse on the talent next year, it's Veach.

I wouldn't be surprised if he really does shoot for the moon here. (At the same time, I know he's been one to exercise caution due to age, injuries, etc... when it comes to spending cap or draft value on players.)

OnTheWarpath15 09-30-2024 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17717606)
If I'm Veach/Reid, I'm looking for a high-floor starter to replace some of Rice's production.

I don't see this potential move as fun way to kick the tires on a high-ceiling/low-floor guy that hasn't worked out, which is Veach's typical move.

This scenario calls for immediate production in a year where we can go for a three-peat. With that being the case, combined with it being a poor draft year AND us having an extra pick, this might be a rare scenario where Veach flops his dick on the table with a big swing.

I'm not sure how the cap works if we go for an top-tier / high-contract guy.

List of WR Contracts: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/contract.../wr/sort/value

Not happening unless we clear a metric ****ton of space.

In any trade the Chiefs would take on the dead cap money plus any future salary.

O.city 09-30-2024 11:32 AM

Yeah, Johnson makes the most sense. Or Cooper.

OnTheWarpath15 09-30-2024 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17717623)
Yeah, Johnson makes the most sense. Or Cooper.

I think we might even have to make some room for Dionte.

$3M dead cap plus his prorated $7M base salary.

@DJ'sleftnut please correct me if I'm wrong.

dirk digler 09-30-2024 11:36 AM

I hope I am wrong but based on year's past don't know if I would get my hopes up to much. Also he complimented Skyy's play today.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> HC Andy Reid on midseason trade acquisitions learning the system: &quot;It depends on who the guy is. If he&#39;s got experience in the offense it&#39;s not too bad.&quot;</p>&mdash; Charles Goldman (@goldmctNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldmctNFL/status/1840804830899511349?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 30, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mecca 09-30-2024 11:36 AM

Options are very very limited here, no one is going to shit on their young QB or leave someone in an impossible situation.

You're basically down to hoping Cleveland ownership says **** it or that Carolina likes it's young WRs.

Mecca 09-30-2024 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17717633)
I hope I am wrong but based on year's past don't know if I would get my hopes up to much. Also he complimented Skyy's play today.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> HC Andy Reid on midseason trade acquisitions learning the system: &quot;It depends on who the guy is. If he&#39;s got experience in the offense it&#39;s not too bad.&quot;</p>&mdash; Charles Goldman (@goldmctNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldmctNFL/status/1840804830899511349?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 30, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So you really hope that Jacksonville trades you Christian Kirk?

OnTheWarpath15 09-30-2024 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17717633)
I hope I am wrong but based on year's past don't know if I would get my hopes up to much. Also he complimented Skyy's play today.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> HC Andy Reid on midseason trade acquisitions learning the system: &quot;It depends on who the guy is. If he&#39;s got experience in the offense it&#39;s not too bad.&quot;</p>&mdash; Charles Goldman (@goldmctNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldmctNFL/status/1840804830899511349?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 30, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I hope that's just coachspeak, otherwise test the man for CTE.

OnTheWarpath15 09-30-2024 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17717637)
So you really hope that Jacksonville trades you Christian Kirk?

I don't see how that contract is tradeable.

Imon Yourside 09-30-2024 11:38 AM

Skyy must have dirt on someone LOL

Chris Meck 09-30-2024 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17717634)
Options are very very limited here, no one is going to shit on their young QB or leave someone in an impossible situation.

You're basically down to hoping Cleveland ownership says **** it or that Carolina likes it's young WRs.

Which is really all I'm saying.

MahomesMagic 09-30-2024 11:38 AM

Kendrick Bourne, New England Patriots.

Darius Slayton, NY Giants


Other guys to call on.


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