Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16669351)

Have mostly felt the same about the defense this season. And last, for that matter. Though, imo, the defense was good enough to win a Sb last season. The offense completely collapsed vs. CIN in the 2nd half, while the defense played more than well enough to win that game. But that's old, rehashed news.

The defense needed to get younger, faster and more athletic. Well, Veach/Spags have done that. But it aint Madden; it was always going to take some time for them to learn the playbook, adjust to the speed of the NFL, gel, etc. As is normal for human beings, some are adjusting and getting comfortable quicker than others.

Will say that the more i look into it, the more it looks like the secondary misses a HB-type safety. Only 1 INT between them, and 9 PDs. They don't make offenses pay at all for throwing between the numbers downfield.

Considering how often the DL gets pressure, those guys should be piling up a lot more stats than they have. The eyeball test suggests that they're late to the party, but also that they're not taking the right angles.

Saw one play a couple days ago from the DEN game that should've been an INT for Reid, but he takes a bad angle like he expects the ball to be underthrown by about 5 yards, but he also doesn't hustle; he kind of jogs over so he's short and he's late. Resulted in a big 3rd down conversion that never should've happened. you watch that play, and you have to think, "HB, even having lost a step, makes that INT."

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16669367)

Yeah...it probably would have been a bad idea to give Mathieu another contract (although he wanted to stay badly so he may have accepted a big discount), but they could use him right now.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16669337)

Are you of the opinion that the defense is good?

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16669387)

Even in his past-his-prime state, he's having a better season than both our Ss combined. More tackles (64), a FR, 2 INTs, 5 PDs, even a run stuff for a loss.

Too bad KC has such a problem with "bad tweets," or whatever.

Sidenote: Thornhill was a significantly better S with HB last season than he's been this season with Reid. Just saying.

Post note: and I’m not saying that we should’ve kept honey badger at any cost, just saying Reid was not going to be as effective.

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16669520)

Mathieu sucks

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16669367)

Yeah...it probably would have been a bad idea to give Mathieu another contract (although he wanted to stay badly so he may have accepted a big discount), but they could use him right now.

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16669529)

if that's true, what does that say about our safeties? Super suck?

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16669731)

We have alot of dumb posters on here it's no surprise some wish we kept Mathieu:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Saints/comm...m_source=share

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16669752)

I'm just going to say one last thing here, and then I'm probably never coming back to this thread again.

If you think there's another defensive coordinator out there that would be doing a better job with 3 rookie corners, a rookie 3rd safety, a rookie SSLB, a rookie DE, a front four that does not get consistent pressure on the QB-if you really think that somehow a different name at the top of the menu makes a big difference with all of that going on-

You're stupid.

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16669752)

I'm just going to say one last thing here, and then I'm probably never coming back to this thread again.

If you think there's another defensive coordinator out there that would be doing a better job with 3 rookie corners, a rookie 3rd safety, a rookie SSLB, a rookie DE, a front four that does not get consistent pressure on the QB-if you really think that somehow a different name at the top of the menu makes a big difference with all of that going on-

You're stupid.

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 16669721)

I ****ing hate spags. You guys can shit on me and tell me I'm stupid whatever but the dude just plain sucks. He is at Sutton's level to me now

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16669752)

I'm just going to say one last thing here, and then I'm probably never coming back to this thread again.

If you think there's another defensive coordinator out there that would be doing a better job with 3 rookie corners, a rookie 3rd safety, a rookie SSLB, a rookie DE, a front four that does not get consistent pressure on the QB-if you really think that somehow a different name at the top of the menu makes a big difference with all of that going on-

You're stupid.