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OnTheWarpath15 03-25-2022 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16214777)
Solid rotational piece. As long as they don't pay him big money (and they won't) it isn't a bad deal.

People are just being too emotional about all of this.

Nothing emotional here, just don't believe in using FA to acquire that position - especially a guy that really hasn't done anything in this league and has ball security issues. We don't even use the RB's we have correctly.

You can get the same or better performance out of a late round pick.

staylor26 03-25-2022 11:06 AM

I have no problem with trading up for Karlaftis as an alternative, but a trade up for a high floor guy isn’t as good of a roll of the dice as staying pat at 29 and taking a top 15 talent.

htismaqe 03-25-2022 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16214787)
Nothing emotional here, just don't believe in using FA to acquire that position - especially a guy that really hasn't done anything in this league and has ball security issues. We don't even use the RB's we have correctly.

You can get the same or better performance out of a late round pick.

Why use a late round pick on a RB if you don't have to? Getting a cheap vet like this just gives them even more flexibility with those picks.

htismaqe 03-25-2022 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16214793)
I have no problem with trading up for Karlaftis as an alternative, but a trade up for a high floor guy isn’t as good of a roll of the dice as staying pat at 29 and taking a top 15 talent.

The problem is that we don't have really EITHER right now - high ceiling or high floor guys.

After seeing Nick Bolton and Creed Humphrey play last year, I'm all in on getting high floor good football players.

staylor26 03-25-2022 11:09 AM

The problem is, I think the Chiefs prefer to use their 1-4 round picks on more premium positions and/or trade ups.

If we had a 5th or 6th, that would be the sweet spot for a RB.

I don’t think they want to take one in rounds 1-4, and the 7th is just too late for a RB2.

I guess they could maybe package those 7ths to move up, but who knows if anybody would want that.

louie aguiar 03-25-2022 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16214793)
I have no problem with trading up for Karlaftis as an alternative, but a trade up for a high floor guy isn’t as good of a roll of the dice as staying pat at 29 and taking a top 15 talent.

I would love Karlaftis - reminds me a bit of Hendrickson

The Franchise 03-25-2022 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16214787)
Nothing emotional here, just don't believe in using FA to acquire that position - especially a guy that really hasn't done anything in this league and has ball security issues. We don't even use the RB's we have correctly.

You can get the same or better performance out of a late round pick.

If Nate Taylor is to be believed.....then this offense is going to start using their RBs more out of the backfield with Hill gone.

OnTheWarpath15 03-25-2022 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16214794)
Why use a late round pick on a RB if you don't have to? Getting a cheap vet like this just gives them even more flexibility with those picks.

7th round picks aren't going to add to their flexibility. They could package all four together and MAYBE get to the 6th.

Not to mention, they don't even need a RB with Darrel coming back.

mkp785 03-25-2022 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16214785)
Karlaftis reminds me of Jadaveon Clowney. He's probably never going to explode for 15 sacks a season but he's also a guy that could constantly get 8-10 a year while providing a presence against the run. A true 3-down DE.

In a perfect world we trade up and get him as there's no way he makes it to 29. Then, Ojabo drops to us at 50. We then have our steady presence along with a high upside athlete at DE.

Bring back Ingram and there's your edge for this year. Should be a ton of money available next season for FA chasing if we trade Jones-which we should. Maybe sign Daron Payne since the former WFT has a ton of money tied up in their Dline.

OnTheWarpath15 03-25-2022 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16214805)
If Nate Taylor is to be believed.....then this offense is going to start using their RBs more out of the backfield with Hill gone.

Good, that's what we were led to believe they would do with CEH.

They use Williams more out of the backfield than him.

The three we have now are more than sufficient provided Andy starts using them correctly.

htismaqe 03-25-2022 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16214817)
7th round picks aren't going to add to their flexibility. They could package all four together and MAYBE get to the 6th.

Not to mention, they don't even need a RB with Darrel coming back.

A 6th round RB isn't even going to make it off the practice squad.

If you want a RB that could contribute to the level Jones will, you're talking about a 3rd or 4th most likely.

Couch-Potato 03-25-2022 11:19 AM

Ronald Jones, Meh.

mkp785 03-25-2022 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16214817)
7th round picks aren't going to add to their flexibility. They could package all four together and MAYBE get to the 6th.

Not to mention, they don't even need a RB with Darrel coming back.

I was just thinking they can probably use them to grab someone in the 6th, but no earlier.

htismaqe 03-25-2022 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16214822)
Ronald Jones, Meh.

He's a RB. Outside of 4 or 5 guys, they're all "meh" to some degree.

The Franchise 03-25-2022 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16214817)
7th round picks aren't going to add to their flexibility. They could package all four together and MAYBE get to the 6th.

Not to mention, they don't even need a RB with Darrel coming back.

Nobody has confirmed he's coming back though.


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