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wachashi 01-29-2020 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14758256)
Here’s a potential theory that you can call me a Chiefs homer for if you want but I believe could have traction.

SFs offense uses so much window dressing to confuse the defense and create big plays. Even more than Reid does. Shanahan is more dependent on scheme than Reid is, whereas he can just win a lot of plays with pure talent at his disposal.

I think it helps KC to have that extra week to see and practice against all of the funky stuff that SF does. In theory, they may see their plays twice as much as a team would during a normal practice week.

And yeah the same can be said for SF against the Chiefs offense but again, we aren’t nearly as dependent on scheme IMHO. Even if you have the play covered perfectly, Mahomes can turn it into a long completion.

Could be something that we see play out.

Counterpoint: Green Bay had a bye the week before they played SF the first time and got ran out of the stadium. Of course, GB just matches up terribly with the Niners, so we probably can't learn much from that.

DJ's left nut 01-29-2020 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by All22 (Post 14758105)
The discussion was about Saints vs Vikings, and whether or not using Bridgewater and Taysom Hill to run gadget plays is the best way to beat them.

Y'all have the attention span of goldfish. Yes, we know you beat the Vikings. Congrats. Now come back to the topic of discussion, morons.

Taysom Hill RAN gadget plays successfully against them, smart guy.

Dude ran for 50 yards, had 2 big catches (including a TD) and threw their longest pass of the game out of a trick formation.

You're gonna call people out for having the 'attention span of a goldfish' when you're sitting there arguing that there's no way Hill could do damage against the Vikings when he actually did.

****ing hell you're stupid.

FloridaMan88 01-29-2020 01:52 PM

I would love to see the Chiefs start with no huddle/tempo on offense with short/quick passes, neutralizing the 49ers’ pass rush.

Would also be a good way to get the offense off to a fast start.

DJ's left nut 01-29-2020 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mahomes_Is_God (Post 14758238)
After we beat the Niners Frank Clark is gonna pick up that Lombardi trophy and smash it over Dee Ford's head! Take that you habitual line stepping over piece of shit!

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wachashi 01-29-2020 01:54 PM

If the Falcons can hold the Niners to 22 points, 120 rushing yards, and less than 200 passing yards, then I think the Chiefs have a great shot to do the same. Atlanta was the 20th best DVOA defense overall this year, 14th in DVOA rushing, and 25th in DVOA passing.

Jimmy G was just not good enough to take advantage of Atlanta's biggest weakness - their pass defense.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-29-2020 01:56 PM

Garoppolo toward the top of the league in dropped interceptions this season. Here’s a clip of all of them: https://twitter.com/thestevenruiz/st...883033602?s=21

This guy who tweeted it and Nick Jacobs both have clearly watched a lot of games and the thing they both pointed to was he really just doesn’t throw outside the numbers, almost ever. He loves that MOF.

Hoping Spagnuolo and the staff have these guys dialed in on staying disciplined and congesting the middle of the field. Don’t take the eye candy if it’s not your job. Front line needs to win their 1v1s, stay disciplined at the 2nd level, and we will give Garoppolo problems.

DJ's left nut 01-29-2020 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14758350)
Garoppolo toward the top of the league in dropped interceptions this season. Here’s a clip of all of them: https://twitter.com/thestevenruiz/st...883033602?s=21

This guy who tweeted it and Nick Jacobs both have clearly watched a lot of games and the thing they both pointed to was he really just doesn’t throw outside the numbers, almost ever. He loves that MOF.

Hoping Spagnuolo and the staff have these guys dialed in on staying disciplined and congesting the middle of the field. Don’t take the eye candy if it’s not your job. Front line needs to win their 1v1s, stay disciplined at the 2nd level, and we will give Garoppolo problems.

I wish to hell that DoD had forced his way into the rotation this year. Garoppolo simply doesn't seem to see the underneath man very well. Most of the interceptions I've seen from him aren't like the pick Rodgers threw last week where he just threw a lousy ball.

They're throws where he simply didn't see the underneath man sinking into the zone. He's routinely hitting guys right in the chest because he flat doesn't pick them up.

And if you have an athletic Will like DoD out there patrolling those zones, you could do a lot of drop-zone coverage and make a hash out of his ability to work the middle.

Sorensen is probably going to have a big play from that Nickel Linebacker role he plays at some point. Fuller's biggest impact as a Chief may well be allowing Sorensen to play hybrid backer for big chunks of the game.

wachashi 01-29-2020 02:01 PM

Tyrann Mathieu better be ready to catch the football. I think he's probably tied with Garoppolo in dropped INTs.

DRM08 01-29-2020 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 14758343)
I would love to see the Chiefs start with no huddle/tempo on offense with short/quick passes, neutralizing the 49ers’ pass rush.

Would also be a good way to get the offense off to a fast start.

I would like to see a tempo offense as well. Might help them get into a groove if there is not the typical slower pace we see between most NFL plays.

The Franchise 01-29-2020 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14758356)
I wish to hell that DoD had forced his way into the rotation this year. Garoppolo simply doesn't seem to see the underneath man very well. Most of the interceptions I've seen from him aren't like the pick Rodgers threw last week where he just threw a lousy ball.

They're throws where he simply didn't see the underneath man sinking into the zone. He's routinely hitting guys right in the chest because he flat doesn't pick them up.

And if you have an athletic Will like DoD out there patrolling those zones, you could do a lot of drop-zone coverage and make a hash out of his ability to work the middle.

Sorensen is probably going to have a big play from that Nickel Linebacker role he plays at some point. Fuller's biggest impact as a Chief may well be allowing Sorensen to play hybrid backer for big chunks of the game.

I still don’t get the lack of playing time with DOD. Does he just not get Spag’s defense?

htismaqe 01-29-2020 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14758384)
I still don’t get the lack of playing time with DOD. Does he just not get Spag’s defense?

He's athletically gifted but he's just not a very good football player. That was evident last year. I have to wonder if he just has a very low football IQ.

DJ's left nut 01-29-2020 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14758385)
He's athletically gifted but he's just not a very good football player. That was evident last year. I have to wonder if he just has a very low football IQ.

Yeah, that's kinda my feel.

I'm not even sure it's low football IQ as much as it is a lack of baseline reliability. He makes some plays where he diagnoses quickly and explodes toward the ballcarrier - it's a 'savvy' play that you generally think comes from someone who's a pretty smart ballplayer.

But then he'll just completely airmail an assignment 2 plays later.

It's less of a football IQ thing and almost a football maturity thing. He just can't seem to maintain focus terribly well or hold his water. He struggles to play within scheme.

That doesn't mean he's not sharp enough to do it but rather that he's just not polished enough for the game to have slowed down for him.

The Franchise 01-29-2020 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14758385)
He's athletically gifted but he's just not a very good football player. That was evident last year. I have to wonder if he just has a very low football IQ.

He looked good when he was given the task of “See QB....watch QB”. Outside of that....****ing nothing. Extremely disappointing.

RunKC 01-29-2020 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14758350)
Garoppolo toward the top of the league in dropped interceptions this season. Here’s a clip of all of them: https://twitter.com/thestevenruiz/st...883033602?s=21

This guy who tweeted it and Nick Jacobs both have clearly watched a lot of games and the thing they both pointed to was he really just doesn’t throw outside the numbers, almost ever. He loves that MOF.

Hoping Spagnuolo and the staff have these guys dialed in on staying disciplined and congesting the middle of the field. Don’t take the eye candy if it’s not your job. Front line needs to win their 1v1s, stay disciplined at the 2nd level, and we will give Garoppolo problems.

7/8 are in the middle of the field. Their outside receivers are a rookie and 32 year old coming off an Achilles injury.

If I’m Spags, I’m playing single high with Landlord in the box playing 5 yards off the LOS. 8 in the box will flood the middle forcing Jimmy G to go outside the numbers and will also help with the run game.

The Franchise 01-29-2020 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14758395)
7/8 are in the middle of the field. Their outside receivers are a rookie and 32 year old coming off an Achilles injury.

If I’m Spags, I’m playing single high with Landlord in the box playing 5 yards off the LOS. 8 in the box will flood the middle forcing Jimmy G to go outside the numbers and will also help with the run game.

It helps that some of these guys have had to cover Sanders before as well.


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