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DRM08 01-29-2020 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 14758186)
Only thing that actually worries me about this game is Niners play action versus Chiefs defense. We consistently got torched by Titans when they were running it effectively and 49ers offense does much of the same.

It will be a problem for KC. The Chiefs offense needs to bring their A game because I think the Niners probably get to 30+ points in this game.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 01-29-2020 12:49 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’ll be Mic’d up Sunday Night. For Super Bowl 54. There, you hear what I really have to Say. Until then. ✌🏿</p>&mdash; Frank Clark (@TheRealFrankC_) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRealFrankC_/status/1222586209723199493?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

BoxWine_Stouffers_TubeSock 01-29-2020 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 14758142)
Second best is Matt Moore. Did you know we beat the Vikings with Matt Moore.

Matt ****ing Moore.

Matt "I coach High School" Moore

Matt "12 inch cock" Moore

Matt "**** Kirk Cousins" MOORE!! MIDNIGHT

K, I'm done

The Franchise 01-29-2020 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14758211)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’ll be Mic’d up Sunday Night. For Super Bowl 54. There, you hear what I really have to Say. Until then. ✌🏿</p>&mdash; Frank Clark (@TheRealFrankC_) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRealFrankC_/status/1222586209723199493?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This shit is going to be glorious.

smithandrew051 01-29-2020 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14758211)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’ll be Mic’d up Sunday Night. For Super Bowl 54. There, you hear what I really have to Say. Until then. ✌🏿</p>&mdash; Frank Clark (@TheRealFrankC_) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRealFrankC_/status/1222586209723199493?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The guy who controls the “bleeps” needs to bring his A-Game for that one

BoxWine_Stouffers_TubeSock 01-29-2020 12:58 PM

After we beat the Niners Frank Clark is gonna pick up that Lombardi trophy and smash it over Dee Ford's head! Take that you habitual line stepping over piece of shit!

mr. tegu 01-29-2020 01:01 PM

I’m just going to repeat what I’ve been saying which is that the Chiefs pass rush will have more impact on Garrapolo than theirs will on Mahomes.

staylor26 01-29-2020 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 14758244)
I’m just going to repeat what I’ve been saying which is that the Chiefs pass rush will have more impact on Garrapolo than theirs will on Mahomes.

It’s certainly possible and downright disrespectful that the media isn’t even considering it.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-29-2020 01:09 PM

Here’s a potential theory that you can call me a Chiefs homer for if you want but I believe could have traction.

SFs offense uses so much window dressing to confuse the defense and create big plays. Even more than Reid does. Shanahan is more dependent on scheme than Reid is, whereas he can just win a lot of plays with pure talent at his disposal.

I think it helps KC to have that extra week to see and practice against all of the funky stuff that SF does. In theory, they may see their plays twice as much as a team would during a normal practice week.

And yeah the same can be said for SF against the Chiefs offense but again, we aren’t nearly as dependent on scheme IMHO. Even if you have the play covered perfectly, Mahomes can turn it into a long completion.

Could be something that we see play out.

smithandrew051 01-29-2020 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 14758244)
I’m just going to repeat what I’ve been saying which is that the Chiefs pass rush will have more impact on Garrapolo than theirs will on Mahomes.

It’s absolutely possible.

The Chiefs OL has the 4th best sacks allowed rate. The 49ers have the 2nd best sack rate.

The 49ers OL has the 15th best sacks allowed rate. The Chiefs have the 10th best sack rate.

Chiefs OL and DL had significant injuries through most of the year which affected their rankings, but both are as healthy as they can be now.

I know the 49ers has injuries too, but I’m not familiar with the extent. I’ll just assume injuries were a wash for both.

Then consider that Mahomes is more mobile than Garrapolo, has better weapons than Garrapolo, makes much better decisions than Garrapolo....

It’s absolutely possible.

ChiTown 01-29-2020 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14758248)
It’s certainly possible and downright disrespectful that the media isn’t even considering it.

Honestly, much of the media still has their heads up their asses about this D. They still think this is the 2018, and first half of 2019 version of our D. This is a COMPLETELY different team since the Titans game in Nashville..............and, most importantly, we are mostly healthy (sans Juan Thornhill)

htismaqe 01-29-2020 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14758256)
Here’s a potential theory that you can call me a Chiefs homer for if you want but I believe could have traction.

SFs offense uses so much window dressing to confuse the defense and create big plays. Even more than Reid does. Shanahan is more dependent on scheme than Reid is, whereas he can just win a lot of plays with pure talent at his disposal.

I think it helps KC to have that extra week to see and practice against all of the funky stuff that SF does. In theory, they may see their plays twice as much as a team would during a normal practice week.

And yeah the same can be said for SF against the Chiefs offense but again, we aren’t nearly as dependent on scheme IMHO. Even if you have the play covered perfectly, Mahomes can turn it into a long completion.

Could be something that we see play out.

The big thing is that the KC defense has to stay put. We've seen this offense before. A lot actually.

The stretch/wide zone is Alex Gibbs' scheme and it relies on OL positioning and cutback lanes.

The defensive line needs to be disciplined and patient. We've seen them do it, in fact we saw them do it as early as the Baltimore game when they adequately contained Lamar Jackson.

RunKC 01-29-2020 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14758256)
Here’s a potential theory that you can call me a Chiefs homer for if you want but I believe could have traction.

SFs offense uses so much window dressing to confuse the defense and create big plays. Even more than Reid does. Shanahan is more dependent on scheme than Reid is, whereas he can just win a lot of plays with pure talent at his disposal.

I think it helps KC to have that extra week to see and practice against all of the funky stuff that SF does. In theory, they may see their plays twice as much as a team would during a normal practice week.

And yeah the same can be said for SF against the Chiefs offense but again, we aren’t nearly as dependent on scheme IMHO. Even if you have the play covered perfectly, Mahomes can turn it into a long completion.

Could be something that we see play out.

Grunhard had a great point yesterday. He pointed out that we were already familiar with the 49ers offense and had been studying it since last Spring.

Every year at OTA’s and camp Andy has a practice dedicated to each divisional team. Denver hired Shannahan’s QB coach Scangarello to be their OC, so we studied that offense knowing Denver would utilize it.

We also studied it further when the Vikings came to town. Gary Kubiak went there this year and was running basically the same type of offense.

htismaqe 01-29-2020 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14758298)
Grunhard had a great point yesterday. He pointed out that we were already familiar with the 49ers offense and had been studying it since last Spring.

Every year at OTA’s and camp Andy has a practice dedicated to each divisional team. Denver hired Shannahan’s QB coach Scangarello to be their OC, so we studied that offense knowing Denver would utilize it.

We also studied it further when the Vikings came to town. Gary Kubiak went there this year and was running basically the same type of offense.

Yeah, it's Daddy Shanahan's offense pretty much. Alex Gibbs' stretch zone.

ReynardMuldrake 01-29-2020 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14758256)
Here’s a potential theory that you can call me a Chiefs homer for if you want but I believe could have traction.

SFs offense uses so much window dressing to confuse the defense and create big plays. Even more than Reid does. Shanahan is more dependent on scheme than Reid is, whereas he can just win a lot of plays with pure talent at his disposal.

I think it helps KC to have that extra week to see and practice against all of the funky stuff that SF does. In theory, they may see their plays twice as much as a team would during a normal practice week.

And yeah the same can be said for SF against the Chiefs offense but again, we aren’t nearly as dependent on scheme IMHO. Even if you have the play covered perfectly, Mahomes can turn it into a long completion.

Could be something that we see play out.

I GUARANTEE that Andy will bust out some plays this week that aren't on film anywhere.


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