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O.city 12-14-2022 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 16666542)
I'm tired of hearing about "rebuilding year" absolutely ****ing tired of it. NFL teams have turnover...deal with it

Ehremagawd we're starting a few roooookies!!! Oh noooooooo

Yeah, especially at this point.

It's week 15. That was a fine excuse early. Now, they need to finish strong on the last quarter here.

Keep these 4 teams under 20ish points.

Megatron96 12-14-2022 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16666686)
Uhh, we kind of need to worry about TEN too. They have by far been the best team at stymieing this offense.

They can’t put up points the way the other two teams can. Get ahead of TEN and take away Henry, it’s over. Also, TEN averages about 25 points. BUF and CIN are closer to 30.

Pasta Little Brioni 12-14-2022 04:21 PM

I mentioned tackling, but the ABSOLUTE dog shit redzone defense is going to be what knocks us out

TLO 12-14-2022 04:26 PM

This defense would look a hell of a lot better if they caused some turnovers.

Skyy God 12-14-2022 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 16666915)
I mentioned tackling, but the ABSOLUTE dog shit redzone defense is going to be what knocks us out

Vagasil will clear that right up.

Megatron96 12-14-2022 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16666713)
They can’t put up points the way the other two teams can. Get ahead of TEN and take away Henry, it’s over. Also, TEN averages about 25 points. BUF and CIN are closer to 30.

sorry, I guess TEN has fallen off a bit. They average about 19pts/gm, not 25. So even less to worry about with TEN. The Chiefs have scored less than 20 pts in a game just twice in the last 37 games. And of course, KC has averaged about 29 pts/gm over that span.

Easy 6 12-15-2022 10:37 AM

Interesting read on Spags and the state of our defense

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...5e0eb018a95301

King_Chief_Fan 12-15-2022 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 16667625)
Interesting read on Spags and the state of our defense

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...5e0eb018a95301

accurate and highlights why he should be fired.
A dinosaur that hasn't kept up with the NFL

OKchiefs 12-15-2022 11:48 AM

The problem is, do we really think Reid will hire some young, innovative defensive mind? He'll just hire another dinosaur to coach the defense, someone he's worked with before.

Megatron96 12-15-2022 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 16667625)
Interesting read on Spags and the state of our defense

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...5e0eb018a95301

Just curious, but how do you get faster, bendier EDGEs in the draft when you're constantly picking in the high 20s and 30s for the last 4 years?

Also, outside of McDuffie, hasn't it been true that the other rookie DBs have been a little hit-and-miss in their performances so far? I mean, I don't want to blame them too much considering that they're rookies and the fact that one of them was drafted int he 4th and the other was drafted in the 7th, but it's not like they've been really consistent, even play-to-play. The have shown flashes, and in some games have played pretty well, but they're far from polished products at this point.


Anyway,

I'll tell you what has been noticeable, it's how unnoticeable the safety play has been. They're covering okay for the most part, but they aren't making the big plays, like INTs, pass breakups, etc. Neither Reid nor Thornhill have been able to be, either alone or in concert with the other, the play-maker that HB was back there, for whatever reasons.

Chris Meck 12-15-2022 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 16667625)
Interesting read on Spags and the state of our defense

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...5e0eb018a95301

Sorry, but I read this article this morning and thought it was a bunch of horseshit.

If Clark had been Seahawks Clark instead of Crohns/whatever Clark, we wouldn't be having half of these conversations.

We've been handcuffed to an extremely expensive JAG for three years.

Edge rushers under like 250-255 at a minimum are called 3-4 OLB'ers. Now, if you want to argue that a 3-4 base is a better idea than a 4-3, that's an entirely different argument.

There are fair criticisms; I think Spags is perhaps too loyal sometimes to individual players (Sorensen's and whatnot). I think sometimes in the past his coverage schemes were perhaps too complicated - although I think he's deliberately been less so this year with so many rookies and new players.

But this idea that the game has passed him by is stupid. Fangio is a ****ing dinosaur running cover two and cover four-which are literally like 1960's schemes and it's all the rage in the NFL-as long as you can rush the passer with 4. If you can't, then you'd best not even TRY to run it.

Easy 6 12-15-2022 12:21 PM

Other than to call it interesting, that piece was submitted without comment... so chill out, gang

And ftr no, I dont agree with all of its conclusions... give Spags a D line like he had with the NYG, and a lotta people would be changing their tune

ChiefsFan63 12-15-2022 12:38 PM

I was listening to the local ESPN radio station. They were talking to one of the Chiefs sports columnists who said he didn't expect Spags to be around next year due to the performance of the defense. Sorry but I don't remember who they were talking to, but I would imagine the guy is heard on 810 as well.

Megatron96 12-15-2022 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 16667847)
Other than to call it interesting, that piece was submitted without comment... so chill out, gang

And ftr no, I dont agree with all of its conclusions... give Spags a D line like he had with the NYG, and a lotta people would be changing their tune

Wasn't bagging on ya, bud. Was just asking questions and making a couple observations.

RunKC 12-15-2022 12:48 PM

Saying the Chiefs defense has been in “steady decline” is hillarious. How can anyone watch this from last year and think for one second that this years defense isn’t much better?

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