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BlackHelicopters 05-01-2014 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin (Post 10597695)
holy shit! The Royals are 5-10 in the division? **** that noise!

1-7 at CLE, DET, and Minn

SPchief 05-01-2014 04:24 PM

Chen to DL. Duffy likley to start Saturday. Can throw 65-70 pitches.

TLO 05-01-2014 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SPchief (Post 10597776)
Chen to DL. Duffy likley to start Saturday. Can throw 65-70 pitches.

(Pencils in Saturday as a loss.)

stonedstooge 05-01-2014 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SPchief (Post 10597776)
Chen to DL. Duffy likley to start Saturday. Can throw 65-70 pitches.

Hope he gets over killing Melky last night

Prison Bitch 05-01-2014 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 10597286)
I nor you in those quotes made a comment on Butler, Hos, and Gordon so that isn't really relevant because it hurts my point about Escobar and Infante

FYP


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I am not sure with all the formulas but I just think the predictions for Esky, as well as your hatred, were being based too much off of a bad season. A 0.0 projection? Come on, he had improved every season prior to last season. A bounce back season is not that surprising.
The formulas are provided by OLIVER:
http://www.hardballtimes.com/introducing-oliver/


It probably incorporated his terrible wRC+ of 49 or -37.5 runs last year. His three seasons prior were -16.3 average (-25.3/-20.9/-2.8). So the projections probably think he's closer to -20 runs or so than the 2012 -2.8. Right now he's +1.3. I doubt you'll find even one SABRmetrician who thinks that'll hold.

mr. tegu 05-02-2014 05:57 AM

When Cain comes back Maxwell needs to go. Dyson has proven himself more useful and that spot will be better used on a backup middle infielder.

mr. tegu 05-02-2014 06:01 AM

2014 Royals Repository
 
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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10597794)
FYP




The formulas are provided by OLIVER:
http://www.hardballtimes.com/introducing-oliver/


It probably incorporated his terrible wRC+ of 49 or -37.5 runs last year. His three seasons prior were -16.3 average (-25.3/-20.9/-2.8). So the projections probably think he's closer to -20 runs or so than the 2012 -2.8. Right now he's +1.3. I doubt you'll find even one SABRmetrician who thinks that'll hold.

Yeah okay. Can't talk about Esky on his own? Have to bring in guys completely irrelevant to the performance of that player? What a joke.

You continue to lean on those projections and tell us how Esky shouldn't be on the team if that's what you want to do. If you want to complain that those others need more HRs no one will argue.

Fansy the Famous Bard 05-02-2014 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 10598699)
Yeah okay. Can't talk about Esky on his own? Have to bring in guys completely irrelevant to the performance of that player? What a joke.

You continue to lean on those projections and tell us how Esky shouldn't be on the team if that's what you want to do.

Not to split hairs, but do you think Esky will continue to produce at a .750+ OPS rate for the remainder of the year? I think he may be improving, yes... but I don't see him continuing like this.

The guy has a career track record of 2500 AB's with .640 OPS. Same as I don't see Belly, Gordo, Hos, etc all performing so poorly for the remainder.

PB is being his usual overreaction :jester: self, by saying esky won't maintain in producing but doesn't take the same approach towards those that aren't producing (yet have a track record of doing so).

mr. tegu 05-02-2014 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 10598700)
Not to split hairs, but do you think Esky will continue to produce at a .750+ OPS rate for the remainder of the year?

Most likely not. Do you think he will have a 0.1 WAR combined this year and next? Should we be looking for a replacement?

Other than last season he has performed basically as you would hope. It isn't his fault the true offensive guys aren't hitting HRs and doing as expected so saying he is a problem because of team offensive woes is directing frustrations in the wrong direction.

Fansy the Famous Bard 05-02-2014 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 10598704)
Most likely not. Do you think he will have a 0.1 WAR combined this year and next? Should we be looking for a replacement?

Nope, and I edited my post to include some additionals (probably while you are responding)... I don't think Esky needs to be replaced... as long as he's closer to .700 than .600 at the plate.

The guy we need to seriously start considering replacing long term at this point is Cain. We are being forced to retain an extra OF'r because he's basically this guy with a glove.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-JRj9PmoUoh...breakable.jpeg

mr. tegu 05-02-2014 08:21 AM

Hopefully Hosmer can start getting those doubles a few extra feet so they become HRs. He has just missed quite a few in the last 10 games or so. Among AL first basemen he is tied for the lead in doubles and second in BA. He seems to be swinging well in general, but now he needs to turn some doubles into HRs and hit better with RISP. Right now he is just at .250.

WhawhaWhat 05-02-2014 10:14 AM

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KCUnited 05-02-2014 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SPchief (Post 10597776)
Chen to DL. Duffy likley to start Saturday. Can throw 65-70 pitches.

So 3 innings.

Prison Bitch 05-02-2014 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 10598700)
PB is being his usual overreaction :jester: self, by saying esky won't maintain in producing but doesn't take the same approach towards those that aren't producing (yet have a track record of doing so).

Um, that's what Tegu was doing. Thanks for playing.


I think Hosmer could revert back to last year's numbers, but I'm pretty sure Billy Butler is done as a decent DH. We'll see if I'm right. As for Escobar/Infante I think Escobar will fall off severely but I never said anything about Infante. Only that his contract will suck year 4. WTF was he even brought up?

Fansy the Famous Bard 05-02-2014 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10598942)
Um, that's what Tegu was doing. Thanks for playing.


I think Hosmer could revert back to last year's numbers, but I'm pretty sure Billy Butler is done as a decent DH. We'll see if I'm right. As for Escobar/Infante I think Escobar will fall off severely but I never said anything about Infante. Only that his contract will suck year 4. WTF was he even brought up?

I doubt Infante is here 4 years. He'll be traded before then, if KC doesn't turn it around and make the playoffs this year and\or next.


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