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Three7s 03-14-2014 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10491037)
sounds like Duffy is conceding defeat.

It's very possible if he stays healthy and not on an innings limit.

Deberg_1990 03-14-2014 04:34 PM

So Duffy is another failed prospect?

Three7s 03-14-2014 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10491109)
So Duffy is another failed prospect?

If his control doesn't get any better, then yep, it's looking like it.

alnorth 03-14-2014 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10491109)
So Duffy is another failed prospect?

not yet, but he probably won't be the #5 starter on March 30.

Deberg_1990 03-14-2014 04:49 PM

I realize not every prospect is going to work out.....but the Royals must hold some kind of record for failed pitching prospects over the past 20 years. Its a big reason why they have sucked for most of that period.

Simplicity 03-14-2014 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10491137)
I realize not every prospect is going to work out.....but the Royals must hold some kind of record for failed pitching prospects over the past 20 years. Its a big reason why they have sucked for most of that period.

Greinke didn't suck... But we also didn't hold on to him.

Deberg_1990 03-14-2014 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 10491139)
Greinke didn't suck... But we also didn't hold on to him.

Hes about the only exception.

alnorth 03-14-2014 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10491143)
Hes about the only exception.

The only other pitcher is maybe Rosado, he could have been good if his arm was not destroyed by the Royals stupidity.

alnorth 03-14-2014 05:43 PM

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Jason Parks ‏@ProfessorParks 1h
Not to negative scout, but I just don't see it from Bubba Starling. Has the strength and bat speed, but the pitch recognition is poor.

Aaron Bryant, Esq. ‏@aaronjbryant 16m
@ProfessorParks wasn't his walk rate WAY up last yr
Jason Parks ‏@ProfessorParks 10m
@aaronjbryant That's not the same thing as pitch recognition, unfortunately. It's just laying off bad pitches.

Jason Parks ‏@ProfessorParks 4m
@stonecutter7 I'm not even sure I agree w/ the super athlete label anymore. He's a plus athlete, but this isn't Bo Jackson or anything.
Welp.

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Jason Parks ‏@ProfessorParks 8m
@jazayerli Im still quite impressed with their overall MiLB talent. Pretty deep system. But I just don't see much from Starling.
Well there's that, at least

Bowser 03-14-2014 05:45 PM

How long until he's QB'ing at Nebraska?

P-90Rex 03-15-2014 01:58 AM

I don't understand the talk about Duffy being a bust. Yes, he is losing a battle with Ventura...but all the other positions were given to Chen, Vargas, Shields, and Guthrie. It was predetermined to be Ventura vs Duffy. Ok, he lost. He's struggling with command. He also no hit the Tigers last year through 5 or 6. He has time to figure things out. Luckily for the Royals, they don't need him right now. If he finds his control mid season and changes spots with Chen look out. Is losing to Ventura a really bad thing? Maybe Ventura is really good. We better hope so. I'd rather it be the case that Ventura is a beast than have Duffy beat him out. Duffy has time, he just doesn't have a spot now. And that's a great thing.

Deberg_1990 03-15-2014 02:25 AM

If Duffy can't beat out 50 year old Chen........come on.....that's pretty telling.

cabletech94 03-15-2014 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10492296)
If Duffy can't beat out 50 year old Chen.......c'mon CHEN.....that's pretty telling.

fyp

Unsmooth-Moment 03-15-2014 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10492296)
If Duffy can't beat out 50 year old Chen........come on.....that's pretty telling.

He isn't competing with Chen. Looks like the only spot in rotation available currently is the ventura/duffy spot.

I hope that changes later in season. Duffy needs to keep innings down as well.

Fansy the Famous Bard 03-15-2014 07:58 AM

Duffy will be in the rotation at some point this year. Just cause he's not starting in it doesn't mean he's through.

Bowser 03-15-2014 09:28 AM

Chen is better used out of the bully, imo. He's a good starter, but a great setup/long relief guy. At least that's the impression I got watching him before they re-inserted him in the rotation last season. He didn't suck as a starter by any means, but....

duncan_idaho 03-15-2014 09:45 AM

I'm still convinced the plan with Chen is for him to make around 10 starts and cover the innings they want out of his spot in the rotation but know they can't get out of Duffy (because he's limited to 140-150 this year) or Zimmer.

I'd rather see Duffy in Omaha continuing to work on his slider than pitching out of the bullpen, but using him out of the Royals pen at the start of the year DOES allow them to limit his innings while still having his work supervised by Eiland.

I wonder, too, how much Duffy's development would have been helped if they'd just let him start throwing a slider 3-4 years ago rather than insisting he stick to a curveball as his breaking pitch. His arm slot is probably more conducive to a slider, and it works better off of his fastball than a curve (and is harder to recognize, improving the swing and miss ability of both pitches).

alnorth 03-15-2014 01:53 PM

Interesting article on the star today. The Royals are doing a bunch of different things to try to keep Salvy from suffering another concussion.

They are trying out more padding in his helmet this spring, and they ordered a heavier old-fashioned solid steel mask to replace his lightweight mask. (the lightweight masks are more comfortable, but they don't disperse impact as well as the old-fashioned steel masks) They also want Salvy to inch up closer to the plate to make foul balls less likely to hit his head.

Discuss Thrower 03-15-2014 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10493069)
Interesting article on the star today. The Royals are doing a bunch of different things to try to keep Salvy from suffering another concussion.

They are trying out more padding in his helmet this spring, and they ordered a heavier old-fashioned solid steel mask to replace his lightweight mask. (the lightweight masks are more comfortable, but they don't disperse impact as well as the old-fashioned steel masks) They also want Salvy to inch up closer to the plate to make foul balls less likely to hit his head.

I wonder what sport costs more money in injuries throughout the USA: baseball or football..

-King- 03-15-2014 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10493076)
I wonder what sport costs more money in injuries throughout the USA: baseball or football..

Football easily.
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BlackHelicopters 03-15-2014 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10493076)
I wonder what sport costs more money in injuries throughout the USA: baseball or football..

Football it would seem.

C3HIEF3S 03-15-2014 02:25 PM

Dyson displaying his power

C3HIEF3S 03-15-2014 03:06 PM

Gio displaying his power

3-0 KC over a split squad Cubs team.

alnorth 03-15-2014 03:57 PM

Shields: 10K in 6IP, only 75 pitches

C3HIEF3S 03-15-2014 03:59 PM

He's mowing em down.
Too bad it's not only a split squad team, but a Cubs split squad team :)

Still nice to see though no doubt.

C3HIEF3S 03-15-2014 04:54 PM

Rauch and Collins give up 3 runs each and the SS Cubs take the lead 6-5.

Deberg_1990 03-15-2014 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Unsmooth-Moment (Post 10492339)
He isn't competing with Chen. Looks like the only spot in rotation available currently is the ventura/duffy spot.

I hope that changes later in season. Duffy needs to keep innings down as well.

Hes not competing directly, no. But in a way he is. If he was any good, then he would push the weakest other starter (Chen) out.


Chen is ok as long as hes not overworked.. IMO the reason he played well last season is because he wasnt overworked the beginning of the year. He was used sparingly, and still had enough in the tank the last half of the year.

WhawhaWhat 03-15-2014 05:44 PM

Dodgers started a 17 year old today against the Padres.

In a last hour switcheroo, the Los Angeles Dodgers decided to start 17-year-old phenom Julio Urias during Game 1 of their split squad doubleheader on Saturday afternoon.

Urias handled one inning of work against the San Diego Padres and was absolutely flawless, striking out two on only 14 pitches. He started off the inning with a strikeout of six-year pro and left-handed hitting Will Venable despite falling behind in the count 3-0.

How's that for poise under pressure?

After getting Chris Denorfia on a grounder to third, Urias struck out another left-hander swinger with major league experience in Yonder Alonso.

All three players will be on the Padres opening day roster, so it's not like the Dodgers threw him into a cupcake matchup. And based on the information coming from Camelback Ranch, he's already an extremely tough at-bat for left-handed hitters. Now just imagine how much better he'll be with experience and a little bit of seasoning.

It's a scary thought if you're not a Dodgers fan.

alnorth 03-15-2014 07:02 PM

The Tigers just lost their shortstop for most of 2014.

alnorth 03-15-2014 07:05 PM

Everyone now expects the Tigers to rescue Stephen Drew from QO purgatory, but that would probably be a downgrade.

Bowser 03-15-2014 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10493663)
The Tigers just lost their shortstop for most of 2014.

What happened?

alnorth 03-15-2014 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 10493668)
What happened?

Some kind of shin injury. After medical exam today, it turned out to be worse than they thought. Iglesias is out for several months.

stonedstooge 03-15-2014 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10493669)
Some kind of shin injury. After medical exam today, it turned out to be worse than they thought. Iglesias is out for several months.

Hate to see anyone get hurt but **** the Tigers anyway

alnorth 03-15-2014 07:09 PM

They thought it was going to be minor, but according to the doctors, whatever Iglesias has is very dangerous, needs to be fully rehabbed, and can't be messed around with.

Jerm 03-15-2014 07:15 PM

So a buddy and I were just having this conversation....what does everyone realistically expect Shields to command after this year and do we have any shot of retaining him?

I know this has probably been beat into the ground but I was curious to see how everyone else's numbers contract wise compared to ours.

alnorth 03-15-2014 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 10493680)
So a buddy and I were just having this conversation....what does everyone realistically expect Shields to command after this year and do we have any shot of retaining him?

I know this has probably been beat into the ground but I was curious to see how everyone else's numbers contract wise compared to ours.

If he repeats 2013? 9 digits (or at least 90), and no.

Jerm 03-15-2014 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10493693)
If he repeats 2013? 9 digits (or at least 90), and no.

My guess was 5 yrs. $90 mil.

gblowfish 03-15-2014 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10493669)
Some kind of shin injury. After medical exam today, it turned out to be worse than they thought. Iglesias is out for several months.

Maybe they'd trade us Verlander or Scherzer straight up for Escobar.

Shogun 03-15-2014 09:36 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bi0Zk_PCYAAvmCE.png

Simplicity 03-15-2014 09:38 PM

:clap:
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Originally Posted by Shogun (Post 10494191)


Archie F. Swin 03-16-2014 08:47 AM

Laird to Nats

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/na...d-from-royals/

Simplicity 03-16-2014 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Shogun (Post 10494191)

If it was bigger... I'd use it as my background on my laptop.

alnorth 03-16-2014 09:02 AM

The Royals have traded Brandon Laird to the Nats for a PTBNL or cash.

Coach 03-16-2014 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Shogun (Post 10494191)

That's pretty good.

If Ventura pans out, which I think he is more than capable of doing so, this should be revised to (when appropriate)

Ace Ventura.

C3HIEF3S 03-16-2014 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Shogun (Post 10494191)

That's beautiful

Bowser 03-16-2014 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 10495793)
That's pretty good.

If Ventura pans out, which I think he is more than capable of doing so, this should be revised to (when appropriate)

Ace Ventura.

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploa...o-this-man.gif

Coach 03-16-2014 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 10495798)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ps9424a9f0.gif

duncan_idaho 03-16-2014 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10493497)
Hes not competing directly, no. But in a way he is. If he was any good, then he would push the weakest other starter (Chen) out.


Chen is ok as long as hes not overworked.. IMO the reason he played well last season is because he wasnt overworked the beginning of the year. He was used sparingly, and still had enough in the tank the last half of the year.

I'm pretty sure they plan for Duffy to eventually take that spot in the rotation. Chen's contract has a major incentive included if he makes more than 15 starts, and they've talked a lot about the flexibility he gives them.

All just reads to me like they're planning for Chen to be part of the rotation early and then move out as the season goes on.

Coach 03-16-2014 03:23 PM

I know it's just spring training, but Vargas is looking good at the mound today. 3-0 Royals over the Padres.

C3HIEF3S 03-16-2014 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 10496353)
I know it's just spring training, but Vargas is looking good at the mound today. 3-0 Royals over the Padres.

Not just today, he has looked pretty good all ST. Hope he can carry that over to the season.

WhawhaWhat 03-16-2014 03:45 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Kyle Blanks boomed a 2-run HR off Vargas. Carlos Peguero opted not to move from his post in LF on that one. Second HR allowed this IP.</p>&mdash; Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/statuses/445314478565892096">March 16, 2014</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

As a side note, I put the over under at 3 for the number of years Andy McCullough lasts at the Star before a bigger paper picks him up. He's way too good to last long in KC.

C3HIEF3S 03-16-2014 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 10496360)
Not just today, he has looked pretty good all ST. Hope he can carry that over to the season.

I jinxed it. :(

Infidel Goat 03-16-2014 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 10496409)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Kyle Blanks boomed a 2-run HR off Vargas. Carlos Peguero opted not to move from his post in LF on that one. Second HR allowed this IP.</p>&mdash; Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/statuses/445314478565892096">March 16, 2014</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

As a side note, I put the over under at 3 for the number of years Andy McCullough lasts at the Star before a bigger paper picks him up. He's way too good to last long in KC.

I'll take the under assuming you don't mean a literal paper. Grantland or ESPN would be my real guesses. As Poz showed, there is no need to move to a bigger market to get noticed..

WhawhaWhat 03-17-2014 09:00 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Royals&amp;src=hash">#Royals</a> baseball hits the air tonight at 7:30 on FOX Sports Kansas City: Yordano Ventura and the <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals">@Royals</a> vs. Texas. <a href="http://t.co/Qq07YxxGgU">pic.twitter.com/Qq07YxxGgU</a></p>&mdash; FOX Sports KC (@FSKansasCity) <a href="https://twitter.com/FSKansasCity/statuses/445561529681723393">March 17, 2014</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

RockChalk 03-17-2014 09:00 AM

I know it's spring and offensive numbers should be seriously looked at, but is there anything to Maxwell's ST figures so far? Could he take a small jump?

TLO 03-17-2014 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 10497678)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Royals&amp;src=hash">#Royals</a> baseball hits the air tonight at 7:30 on FOX Sports Kansas City: Yordano Ventura and the <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals">@Royals</a> vs. Texas. <a href="http://t.co/Qq07YxxGgU">pic.twitter.com/Qq07YxxGgU</a></p>&mdash; FOX Sports KC (@FSKansasCity) <a href="https://twitter.com/FSKansasCity/statuses/445561529681723393">March 17, 2014</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Nice! :thumb:

alnorth 03-17-2014 09:12 AM

Iglesias will be out at least 4 months and might miss the whole season. Detroit has decided not to pursue Stephen Drew to replace him, they'll either work out a trade or just go with whoever their backup is.

alnorth 03-17-2014 09:18 AM

According to Rosenthal, we almost traded Hochevar for Mark Ellis last year.

duncan_idaho 03-17-2014 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10497713)
According to Rosenthal, we almost traded Hochevar for Mark Ellis last year.

:doh!:

That might have been enough to get KC into the postseason last year.

He was a 3 WAR player. Probably enough to take KC to 90-91 wins.

alnorth 03-17-2014 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10497724)
:doh!:

:doh!:

That might have been enough to get KC into the postseason last year.

It apparently fell apart on their end, not ours.

C3HIEF3S 03-17-2014 02:34 PM

Lets do this.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Royals&amp;src=hash">#Royals</a> lineup for first night game. 8:05 CT vs. Texas on <a href="https://twitter.com/610SportsKC">@610SportsKC</a> <a href="http://t.co/uGLU3Die3j">pic.twitter.com/uGLU3Die3j</a></p>&mdash; Josh Vernier (@JoshVernier) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoshVernier/statuses/445658723327823872">March 17, 2014</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KChiefs1 03-17-2014 03:50 PM

Finally a game from a Royals perspective.

BlackHelicopters 03-17-2014 03:51 PM

Very excited

Al Bundy 03-17-2014 04:55 PM

So Escobar is "resting" until Friday? Does that mean he is headed for the DL soon?

C3HIEF3S 03-17-2014 05:01 PM

The boys in green!

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bi9qW2wCUAAeMg7.jpg

BlackHelicopters 03-17-2014 06:18 PM

Separate game thread anyone?

Shogun 03-17-2014 06:28 PM

hearing infante is out now, too

C3HIEF3S 03-17-2014 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 10498827)
Separate game thread anyone?

**** yeah

tk13 03-17-2014 06:33 PM

Yeah Infante's out. Good thing we have tons of middle infield depth.

C3HIEF3S 03-17-2014 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shogun (Post 10498849)
hearing infante is out now, too

Sore right elbow

Sure-Oz 03-17-2014 06:35 PM

GMDM will probably find a way to make a deal with Toronto to get Getz back

TLO 03-17-2014 06:36 PM

This time... on boys in the hall.

TLO 03-17-2014 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 10498880)
This time... on boys in the hall.

Wow I was joking but I turn on pregame and there's a message at the bottom saying they are having technical difficuties, and please stand by. LMAO

TLO 03-17-2014 06:47 PM

Annnnnd they just switched over to live Royals stuff! Woo!

C3HIEF3S 03-17-2014 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 10498906)
Annnnnd they just switched over to live Royals stuff! Woo!

I wish I got live Royals stuff :(

All i get is "Stay Tuned this game will begin shortly."

Simplicity 03-17-2014 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 10498926)
I wish I got live Royals stuff :(

All i get is "Stay Tuned this game will begin shortly."

Me too =/

C3HIEF3S 03-17-2014 07:02 PM

Oh how I missed this :D


Edit: And Rex, missed you too man

C3HIEF3S 03-17-2014 07:07 PM

Ventura starts the game with a 3 pitch K

Dartgod 03-17-2014 07:08 PM

That was a nasty pitch he struck out Andrus on.

Just filthy.

penbrook 03-17-2014 07:08 PM

Yordano Ventura is a future cy young award winner


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