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MahomesMagic 04-21-2025 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 18036671)
When you go “draft and develop” like we have an are successful in terms of winning games…it gets tough.

They’re in the “look for value and draft well” phase where shit just doesn’t work out sometimes

I’m a little more worried about the fact that the qb seemed to have a mental breakdown the past 2 seasons at times and forget how to handle a pocket but that’s another story



Mahomes is elevating the shitty playcalling and the laughable lack of protection.

His weapons available last year were a washed looking Kelce during the year and a 160 LB fast rookie WR with no running game.


Winning 15 games with that shows how special Mahomes is.

-King- 04-21-2025 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 18036673)
Yet:



Sure, Jan.

Yes. That's my opinion. Your opinion is that it is organized.

The beauty of a message board is that two people with contrasting opinions can share those opinions and participate in discussions regarding them. Wild right?

MahomesMagic 04-21-2025 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 18036677)
Yes. That's my opinion. Your opinion is that it is organized.

The beauty of a message board is that two people with contrasting opinions can share those opinions and participate in discussions regarding them. Wild right?



If you asked Veach privately he would probably admit they played hardball too much with Orlando based on how things went after.

O.city 04-21-2025 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 18036675)
Mahomes is elevating the shitty playcalling and the laughable lack of protection.

His weapons available last year were a washed looking Kelce during the year and a 160 LB fast rookie WR with no running game.


Winning 15 games with that shows how special Mahomes is.

Sure

MahomesMagic 04-21-2025 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 18036681)
Sure

I am sure you don't understand and appreciate how amazing our QB is.

staylor26 04-21-2025 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 18036677)
Yes. That's my opinion. Your opinion is that it is organized.

The beauty of a message board is that two people with contrasting opinions can share those opinions and participate in discussions regarding them. Wild right?

Oh so you just don't understand what the word narrative means? Because that is 100% you creating a narrative, and whether it is your opinion or not is irrelevant to that fact.

And the best part is you couldn't even really defend any of it.

RunKC 04-21-2025 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 18036671)
I’m a little more worried about the fact that the qb seemed to have a mental breakdown the past 2 seasons at times and forget how to handle a pocket but that’s another story

Yeah man I just don’t get why a QB would struggle and have issues in the pocket. If only there was a clue

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So the Chiefs *tried* to give their rookie LT help vs Nik Bonitto but....whew. Dude is fast. <a href="https://t.co/s2iKuHp9bc">pic.twitter.com/s2iKuHp9bc</a></p>&mdash; Mina Kimes (@minakimes) <a href="https://twitter.com/minakimes/status/1855748197647258079?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 10, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bengals Free Agency : <br><br>March 19, 2021, Trey Hendrickson signed a four-year, $60 million contract with the Bengals. One of the best FA pickups in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CincinnatiFootballHistory?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CincinnatiFootballHistory</a> <a href="https://t.co/EuRq2kyOZh">pic.twitter.com/EuRq2kyOZh</a></p>&mdash; Bengal Jim &amp; Friends (@bengaljims_BTR) <a href="https://twitter.com/bengaljims_BTR/status/1901448287896412291?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 17, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Eagles sack Mahomes on back to back plays!<br><br>📺: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SBLIX?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SBLIX</a> on FOX<br>📱: Tubi + NFL app <a href="https://t.co/Uun9bviMwL">pic.twitter.com/Uun9bviMwL</a></p>&mdash; NFL (@NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1888750748797677726?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 10, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wanya Morris seemed to frequently lose the same way. Attempting a punch with his outside hand, getting his hand swiped away, and then giving up the edge. The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/raiders?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#raiders</a> have been a tough opponent for him so far. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/chiefskingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#chiefskingdom</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/lvvskc?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#lvvskc</a> <a href="https://t.co/kMJqacer5A">pic.twitter.com/kMJqacer5A</a></p>&mdash; Steeler Thoughts, Chief Feelings (@stcf715) <a href="https://twitter.com/stcf715/status/1862683900750790904?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 30, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wanya Morris against Josh Uche. Pass protection is where Wanya needs the most work and Uche timed this speed to power bench press perfectly. Caught Wanya on one foot and down he goes. Uche is legit <a href="https://t.co/jl4X8CX2Uc">pic.twitter.com/jl4X8CX2Uc</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Harms (@InHarmsWay19) <a href="https://twitter.com/InHarmsWay19/status/1736838243767701857?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 18, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mahomes is sacked by Josh Sweat! <br><br>📺: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SBLIX?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SBLIX</a> on FOX<br>📱: Tubi + NFL app <a href="https://t.co/pXdDlHTtxu">pic.twitter.com/pXdDlHTtxu</a></p>&mdash; NFL (@NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1888750436141703652?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 10, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Chris Meck 04-21-2025 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 18036669)
My point is to the people thinking they should/will go OT first round and the rumors coming out that that's what they're going to target.

I'm fine with what they have now. I'd like to see Moore get a full year before we draft his replacement. And I don't think we need to redshirt a RT for if Moore's good and we need a replacement for Taylor.

I think people saying that are being lazy in their analysis.

Seems obvious since we clearly had problems in the super bowl, but it's not that easy.

O.city 04-21-2025 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 18036687)
Yeah man I just don’t get why a QB would struggle and have issues in the pocket. If only there was a clue

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So the Chiefs *tried* to give their rookie LT help vs Nik Bonitto but....whew. Dude is fast. <a href="https://t.co/s2iKuHp9bc">pic.twitter.com/s2iKuHp9bc</a></p>&mdash; Mina Kimes (@minakimes) <a href="https://twitter.com/minakimes/status/1855748197647258079?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 10, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bengals Free Agency : <br><br>March 19, 2021, Trey Hendrickson signed a four-year, $60 million contract with the Bengals. One of the best FA pickups in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CincinnatiFootballHistory?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CincinnatiFootballHistory</a> <a href="https://t.co/EuRq2kyOZh">pic.twitter.com/EuRq2kyOZh</a></p>&mdash; Bengal Jim &amp; Friends (@bengaljims_BTR) <a href="https://twitter.com/bengaljims_BTR/status/1901448287896412291?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 17, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Eagles sack Mahomes on back to back plays!<br><br>📺: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SBLIX?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SBLIX</a> on FOX<br>📱: Tubi + NFL app <a href="https://t.co/Uun9bviMwL">pic.twitter.com/Uun9bviMwL</a></p>&mdash; NFL (@NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1888750748797677726?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 10, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wanya Morris seemed to frequently lose the same way. Attempting a punch with his outside hand, getting his hand swiped away, and then giving up the edge. The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/raiders?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#raiders</a> have been a tough opponent for him so far. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/chiefskingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#chiefskingdom</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/lvvskc?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#lvvskc</a> <a href="https://t.co/kMJqacer5A">pic.twitter.com/kMJqacer5A</a></p>&mdash; Steeler Thoughts, Chief Feelings (@stcf715) <a href="https://twitter.com/stcf715/status/1862683900750790904?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 30, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wanya Morris against Josh Uche. Pass protection is where Wanya needs the most work and Uche timed this speed to power bench press perfectly. Caught Wanya on one foot and down he goes. Uche is legit <a href="https://t.co/jl4X8CX2Uc">pic.twitter.com/jl4X8CX2Uc</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Harms (@InHarmsWay19) <a href="https://twitter.com/InHarmsWay19/status/1736838243767701857?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 18, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mahomes is sacked by Josh Sweat! <br><br>📺: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SBLIX?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SBLIX</a> on FOX<br>📱: Tubi + NFL app <a href="https://t.co/pXdDlHTtxu">pic.twitter.com/pXdDlHTtxu</a></p>&mdash; NFL (@NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1888750436141703652?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 10, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ok, yep. Got it.

The 13 yard drops and dropping his eyes…all the tackles fault.

O.city 04-21-2025 05:59 PM

I think the best way to help the OL would be to load up more on weapons outside in fact

Apparently for Mahomes to have an mvp level season he needs tackles of the Wiley and Orlando brown jr caliber

MahomesMagic 04-21-2025 05:59 PM

Give Mahomes above average coaching and personnel and he will have the offense top 3 every year in his prime.


Simple.

-King- 04-21-2025 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 18036685)
Oh so you just don't understand what the word narrative means? Because that is 100% you creating a narrative, and whether it is your opinion or not is irrelevant to that fact.

And the best part is you couldn't even really defend any of it.

Oh ok. That's fantastic.


So you believe drafting a first round LT would be a good move?

Chris Meck 04-21-2025 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 18036679)
If you asked Veach privately he would probably admit they played hardball too much with Orlando based on how things went after.

Something you'll learn as you become an adult is that some decisions don't work out the way you intend.

Doesn't mean you should second guess them forever.

RunKC 04-21-2025 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 18036694)
Ok, yep. Got it.

The 13 yard drops and dropping his eyes…all the tackles fault.

Elite pass rushes have always made great QB’s look bad. Tom Brady and Peyton Manning had the best statistical offenses ever averaging over 35 PPG and both times they got the shit beat out of them in a SB scoring only 14 and 9 points.

It’s pretty simple. Mahomes has won 3 SB’s with decent level tackles. He’s gotten his ass kicked with the the worst LT’s in the league in both SB losses.

This isn’t hard. He only needs decent tackles. He doesn’t need Willie Roaf

MahomesMagic 04-21-2025 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 18036700)
Something you'll learn as you become an adult is that some decisions don't work out the way you intend.

Doesn't mean you should second guess them forever.

Based on what we know now it was a bad decision.




I doubt you have had more business success than I have so I don't need your advice gramps.


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