Never been impressed by Carr.

i feel like it may be necessary for a thread that declares: i was wrong, when it comes to carr.

i'd be one of em :D

Where’s the evolution in Carr’s game? More times than not, Marcus Peters has gotten the better of him. I think guys who have played against Carr enough times have figured out his tendencies and he hasn’t been able to adjust.

We are already in phase 2 of Gruden, my plays are great, my QB sucks.

He spent about his whole Tampa tenure in that phase.

He spent most of his time in Tampa creating cliques and when he wasn't publicly chastising players, he was cutting them down behind their backs in private.

The guy's a shit disturber and faux genius coasting off his laurels. In essence, he's Mike Shanahan 2.0.

I never thought I would say this, but I'm starting to feel kind of sorry for Carr.

Bringing Gruden into the Faiders franchise is similar to hiring Stonewall Jackson to supervise the crazy farm. I'll bet DJ thinks he's in a fever dream by now.

FAX

Carr has a bit of lazy footwork. Seems to be like a combo of Jay Cutler and someone like Randall Cunningham in the way he throws the ball. Opposite of Brady.

I feel more sorry for gruden. Only took 1 game to figure out the QB tied to his success is no bueno.

He threw Carr under the bus with his facial expressions during the game. I've never seen anything like it before.

It was after that play where Derek threw the ball away in a clean pocket. They panned to Gruden and he was shaking his head in disgust. Like....daaaaaaamn.

Jon Gruden wishes he had Pat Mahomes.

thats a good point......I dont really have any argument against that except I really assume that is an exception..but I could be wrong. In my life and my experiences, strong competition makes you a better player.....But Brady just may be some ungodly / inhuman rare exception like him turning JAG wr's into studs year after year

That game will be tough. The Rams don't have anything at edge rusher, so that will help. But can our interior OL hold up against Donald and Suh? The pocket will collapse quickly and Mahomes will be trying to complete passes against Peters and Talib. I really hope that he beats Peters for a TD or 2, but I'm afraid that Peters may end up with a pick instead.

I'll take a game against Suh and Donald over the matchup with the Broncos defense.

Suh and Donald can make things uncomfortable for a quarterback; shoving pockets back and giving him no room to operate. They really can make it very difficult to operate effectively.

Von Miller/Bradley Chubb can get the kid hurt. Bosa/Ingram is similarly intimidating.

A large man pushing through three people and falling on our QB is one thing. A remarkably fast man blasting around one person and driving through our quarterback is another thing entirely.

The disruption to your offense as a general rule is probably greater with the former but the latter can yield that one play that ruins your season.

No doubt about it. I bet he also wishes he could go back in time and turn down his current job to stay in that low stress TV job.

Copy paste from somewhere else, but holy shit... Carr doesn't have a chance.

https://www.nbcsports.com/video/oakl...carr?ls=pftvod

Simms was asked about how it was like to be under Gruden's coaching just now on ProFootball Talk. He opens up on how Gruden feels that the QB is accountable and responsible for all mistakes.

An example is when a center missed the handle off the ball and sent it between Simms' legs which resulted in Simms being thrown out of the play. Simms yelled at Gruden "What the ****!?".

Another story Simms tells is when he was next door in a staff meeting and Gruden was trashing Simms. The walls were paper thin and he could hear Gruden say "If our QB only threw it here or if he wasn't so stupid..etc".

Simms would then see Gruden after the meeting in the hallway with a tense moment with Gruden knowing that Simms heard him but Gruden not caring.

Simms seemed very emotional during the segment, even with Florio trying to lighten things up.