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Marcellus 12-05-2017 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13263271)
Let him play next season. If it's another season of bullshit....then you let him walk. If it's another season like his first season....then you franchise him.

I'm not trading him away for ****ing peanuts. Especially considering that we have nothing opposite him in the defensive backfield.

I am not advocating getting rid of him, I woudl even pick up his 5th year option unless he goes complete knucklehead or continues to decline in play.

After that he can hit the streets.

The Franchise 12-05-2017 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13263368)
I am not advocating getting rid of him, I woudl even pick up his 5th year option unless he goes complete knucklehead or continues to decline in play.

After that he can hit the streets.

Priority #1 this offseason needs to be finding another CB to play alongside Peters. Then maybe we can get a DC in here who actually likes to matchup his CB to a WR during a game. It's complete horseshit that Sutton isn't having Peters shadow a teams #1 WR.

srvy 12-05-2017 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 13263105)
How many targets? You can't make plays if QB's aren't throwing in your direction.

Sure you can you can run to the ball for instance these gifs we keep seeing of him dodging sticking his nose in a play. Never know if he lays a lick he jars a ball out or strips one. Instead he chooses to lay back and let the lesser's do the dirty work.

cooper barrett 12-05-2017 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 13262890)
The selfish and immature bullshit Peters has displayed thus It's obvious why he was kicked out from the UW football program. Peters leads the league in caused penalties

I don't see that stat. Help a guy out?

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I see he leads the Chiefs... the league, Not really It looks like #28 but you may have a different stay other than "Number of Flags".

The 27 before Peters ...
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Shields68 12-05-2017 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13263376)
Priority #1 this offseason needs to be finding another CB to play alongside Peters. Then maybe we can get a DC in here who actually likes to matchup his CB to a WR during a game. It's complete horseshit that Sutton isn't having Peters shadow a teams #1 WR.

Bottom line is the Chiefs need to get a lot more speed on Dee pretty much the whole dee edge rushers, line backers and secondary needs to be faster. Peters is not going anywhere. To many other needs, no #1 pick and still cap problems (which could free up money by cutting DJ, Hali and trading Smith) from the previous GM.

Meatloaf 12-05-2017 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Shields68 (Post 13263429)
Bottom line is the Chiefs need to get a lot more speed on Dee pretty much the whole dee edge rushers, line backers and secondary needs to be faster. Peters is not going anywhere. To many other needs, no #1 pick and still cap problems from the previous GM.

I agree with your assessment about lack of speed (and quickness). Our DL has a bunch of big, slow guys on it and our LBs may be the slowest in the league. I think our secondary has acceptable speed, but it's hard to tell when Sutton has them playing 15 yards off the ball. Anyway, this defense is S-L-O-W.

chiefzilla1501 12-05-2017 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13263326)
You want to talk about underwhelming Houston has been, how badly Jones, Bailey, and Ford have regressed, how much of a waste of money Logan, DJ, and Hali have been, how utterly worthless Gaines, Murray, and Zombo have been, I'll be your huckleberry. In another thread. This discussion is about Marcus Peters and how he's regressed both mentally and from an effort standpoint compared to his stalwart rookie year.

I don't have an issue with Houston. The point is, our biggest regression is that we aren't putting pressure. When we don't put pressure, our corners can't ball hawk. And it makes their jobs that much harder. Our regression in the secondary has a lot more to do with how much our pass rush has fallen off. Don't think many would blame our pass rush problems, on the other hand, on our corners. The pass rush is the symptom much more than the secondary.

Jones, Bailey, and Ford are regressing because they've been totally ineffective at getting push. Maybe some of that is scheme. But that is their own issue. A ton of any issues in our secondary can be blamed on another unit. For example, I don't think Mitchell has been terrible (apart from the deep ball) given how much is asked of him.

Chiefnj2 12-05-2017 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13263238)
hew as told by a CBS camera man that he wasn't ejected.

And until you get ejected by a ref you don't leave the damn field.

"Oh I thought I was ejected". That's an absurd excuse.

Maybe one of the coaches or some of the staff should have stopped him. He slowly walked off the field and was even escorted off by a staff member. Hell, he stopped to give a fan his gloves or something. If he "quit" why did he run back on without his socks? Mass confusion on a team with no discipline.

O.city 12-05-2017 12:31 PM

I don't really have a dog in the fight per say, but I'll go ahead and get one.


I'd move on from him. Watch some of the breakdowns. Dude just doesn't give a shit when things go bad.

It sucks. But it is waht it is.

Sassy Squatch 12-05-2017 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13263583)
I don't have an issue with Houston. The point is, our biggest regression is that we aren't putting pressure. When we don't put pressure, our corners can't ball hawk. And it makes their jobs that much harder. Our regression in the secondary has a lot more to do with how much our pass rush has fallen off. Don't think many would blame our pass rush problems, on the other hand, on our corners. The pass rush is the symptom much more than the secondary.

Jones, Bailey, and Ford are regressing because they've been totally ineffective at getting push. Maybe some of that is scheme. But that is their own issue. A ton of any issues in our secondary can be blamed on another unit. For example, I don't think Mitchell has been terrible (apart from the deep ball) given how much is asked of him.

Not a good enough excuse for his drop off in play. There's more to being a CB in the NFL than ballhawking. If he wants to actually hone his craft and become a complete NFL caliber CB, then you keep him after 4 years. If he wants to continue to throw temper tantrums on the sidelines and in the games, and make "business decisions" when its time to tackle, then he can play out his rookie deal and **** right off.

Rausch 12-05-2017 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudy won the toss (Post 13258556)
He's not Zombo, Sorensen, Morse, LDT, Fisher, Alex, or Schwartz

Funny you didn't mention Kelcee who also does immature and stupid shit that hurts the team...

kcpasco 12-05-2017 01:39 PM

I don’t think effort is an issue with Kelce though.

Rausch 12-05-2017 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13263368)
I am not advocating getting rid of him, I woudl even pick up his 5th year option unless he goes complete knucklehead or continues to decline in play.

After that he can hit the streets.

Pretty much.

This team doesn't seem to have much discipline though. As soon as Kelcee stops going full reerun Peters starts.

People keep saying Reid was good with "problem" players or guys with fiery tempers. There's a big difference between Reid and a guy like Hoodie. Hoodie gets guys like Moss to quit doing dumbassery.

Just being willing to put up with someone's bullshit doesn't make you good with people...

RockChalk 12-06-2017 02:40 PM

So which one of you Peters haters is Dan ?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not enuf! Fire him or trade him. Then put him in a circle surrounded by veterans with clubs. Play the natl anthem and watch them beat the hell out of him!</p>&mdash; Dan Samani (@SamaniDan) <a href="https://twitter.com/SamaniDan/status/938479650170224640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 6, 2017</a></blockquote>
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GloryDayz 12-06-2017 04:10 PM

Whatevs..


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