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Titty Meat 01-11-2010 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 6435879)
ROFL I just happened to have worked with a guy in the past who now has a connection with the Chiefs. They are a member here and lurk. They recognized me from my tailgate pictures and stopped by one time. When I found out where he worked now......I made him a deal.

How much do I have to pay to get in on this deal?

TheGuardian 01-11-2010 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6435874)
History has shown repeatedly that coordinators do just fine in other stints. Head coaches tend to be unable to do it because they always demand more power, get it, and that ends up being the end of them. But guys like Wade Phillips, Gregg Williams, Mike Nolan, Dick Lebeau... these are examples of some really good coordinators who've repeated success in different places.

Crennel's history is a little scarier. But I guarantee that Shanahan becomes a mediocre head coach while Charlie Weis does a really good job with the Chiefs.

Yeah I tried to explain this before but some people have their head up their ass.

The guys that were mentioned before like Bill Walsh and Carmen Policy and all of that shit, moved on to positions they weren't successful in before. So yes, they failed. However MOST good coordinators move on to other teams and often find success again. Lots of coordinators fail as head coaches, but then return to the coordinator ranks where they shined and find success again.

Look some people on this board would complain if the Chiefs went 19-0 and won the SB 97-0. They would. Everyone knows who they are and what a gigantic pain in the ****ing ass they are.

Mecca 01-11-2010 08:08 PM

Well Scott Pioli has moved into a position he wasn't in before so there ya go..

I don't have a problem with the moves on their own, I do have a problem that Scott Pioli seems to have an original idea.

TheGuardian 01-11-2010 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6435899)
Well Scott Pioli has moved into a position he wasn't in before so there ya go..

I don't have a problem with the moves on their own, I do have a problem that Scott Pioli seems to have an original idea.

Could you and Hamas parrot each other any ****ing more than you guys currently do? It's unreal.

Guy generally hire guys they are familiar with. This is not unusual. Not to mention that it's not like Crennel isn't an upgrade over Clancy.

Second, Pioli isn't doing anything less really than he was in New England. But you've already declared him a failure. :rolleyes:

MMXcalibur 01-11-2010 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 6435879)
ROFL I just happened to have worked with a guy in the past who now has a connection with the Chiefs. They are a member here and lurk. They recognized me from my tailgate pictures and stopped by one time. When I found out where he worked now......I made him a deal.

Did he at least give you a reacharound?

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-11-2010 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6435893)
Yeah I tried to explain this before but some people have their head up their ass.

The guys that were mentioned before like Bill Walsh and Carmen Policy and all of that shit, moved on to positions they weren't successful in before. So yes, they failed. However MOST good coordinators move on to other teams and often find success again. Lots of coordinators fail as head coaches, but then return to the coordinator ranks where they shined and find success again.

Look some people on this board would complain if the Chiefs went 19-0 and won the SB 97-0. They would. Everyone knows who they are and what a gigantic pain in the ****ing ass they are.

Bill Walsh was GM of the 49ers in the 80's just like Policy was in the 90's.

They didn't move into new positions, they moved into the same positions they were in elsewhere and failed.

Same with Jimmy Johnson.

Mecca 01-11-2010 08:30 PM

The Chiefs tried to ape the 49ers and it didn't work, now we're aping the Patriots...we should know how this story ends.

DeezNutz 01-11-2010 08:33 PM

FTR, "ape" might be my least favorite verb of all-time.

BigRedChief 01-11-2010 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KCtotheSB (Post 6436006)
Did he at least give you a reacharound?

WTF dude? Explain yourself.

Mecca 01-11-2010 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6436018)
FTR, "ape" might be my least favorite verb of all-time.

Ok I'll use a different one next time.

TheGuardian 01-11-2010 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6436007)
Bill Walsh was GM of the 49ers in the 80's just like Policy was in the 90's.

Trying to compare those positions, from two very different eras of football is just reeruned. Of course Walsh failed because he left coach football in 1988 and returned as GM in 99. Yeah there's a fair comparison. 11 ****ing years later. :rolleyes:

The NFL had changed just a bit over those 11 years. Free agency as we know it didn't start until 93.

Policy served as GM for the 9ers. He was not the GM for the Browns.
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They didn't move into new positions, they moved into the same positions they were in elsewhere and failed.

Same with Jimmy Johnson.
This is more wording BS by you. The title for Walsh might have been the same, but the NFL landscape had VASTLY changed. And he only took the role for a few years.

Jimmy Johnson "failed" in Miami but I don't see us hiring a new head coach do you? So again the comparison is baseless. It's just something else you want to bitch about.

Terribilis 01-11-2010 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6435650)

he is the David Hasselhoff to your Joe Spinell

dirk digler 01-11-2010 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6436013)
The Chiefs tried to ape the 49ers and it didn't work, now we're aping the Patriots...we should know how this story ends.

I have to agree that I wish we started trends instead of chasing them.

Then again I don't how you start a new trend or dynasty in the NFL anymore.

DeezNutz 01-11-2010 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6436124)
I have to agree that I wish we started trends instead of chasing them.

Then again I don't how you start a new trend or dynasty in the NFL anymore.

Get a bunch of dynamic-thinking individuals together in one place. In other words...

dirk digler 01-11-2010 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6436132)
Get a bunch of dynamic-thinking individuals together in one place. In other words...

The 4 horsemen? :D


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