Which is why I don't get the layup. Noone remembers it if he misses the shot, shoots 63, and is still clear of the field by 3 or 4. But they do remember if he shoots 59 or 58.

He should have just taken 5 wood and hit it. If he hits it long, it's a free drop and he can still make birdie.

If he hits it in the water, take your drop, make bogey and move on.

Jesus

Out of that rough to stick it to 4 feet.

Played today.

Shot a 6 over 77 but it was at a hard course and today was windy. Always is down here in SA. Started off with two bogeys which didn't help matters.

Started doing something and realized I was hitting more fairways. I started teeing the ball up in the exact center (half-way point) between the tee box markers. Probably just a psychological factor and will not be reproduce-able next time I play, but I split the remaining fairways that I did this. Someone else try this out and see if it works for them? Or maybe it is mind job BS...

Just watched highlights of this round.

They showed a lot of Tiger's wedges and putts, but no drivers.

They kept mentioning that he "hit it into the trees" and had to "hack it up to the green." I don't think this bodes well for next week. If Tiger still can't get off the tee no way he wins the PGA.

Im a 14 handicapper and have been golfing with some old junk spalding blades since I was 14.

I thought it was time to upgrade so I Just bought a set of titleist DTR's from the 90s.

what a hell of a difference. these titleists are so much better weighted and balanced compared to those old shitty spaldings.

I took them to the range and they are so much more forgiving of mis hits and I get about another 20-25 yards on each club.

I have never really swung any newer irons, but I think these old titleists are going to drop my handicap about 5 or 6 strokes.

Not sure if you are trolling us here. Your upgrade is to buy some 20+ year old irons that were still even pre-DCI?

not trolling, don't have money to invest in anything brand new. went used. was going to buy eye 2's but these were a hundred bucks less. I golf on a budget, which is why I have been hitting 30 year old blades. I spent 40 bucks on these clubs. sorry if it seems like im trolling but I just wanted to say that I am amazed with the performance of these clubs. I have hit new taylormade burner 2.0 and these honestly feel very similar.

Glad you like them. I probably would have spent another 10 bucks and gotten some 845s, but I understand your quandary.

I roll old clubs also. eBay. And returned pre owned items for woods. Same mallet putter for the last 8-10 years. I often wonder how much an updated set of irons would help my game

I've started using 3 & 4 irons off the tees. We're not playing 6400 yard blues anymore. My ideal distance would be 61 or 6200. I played Ironhorse two weeks back with a 20-handicapper who wanted to play from 5900. And it was actually quite fun because I had to use all sorts of different clubs off the tee and think more about landing spots than just teeing up driver every hole.

The USGA has a "tee it forward" campaign suggesting people do so to make the game more fun and get more scoring chances. I think most weekend warriors have trouble with 390 par 4s because you have to hit it 250 and straight to have a legit approach. If you're wide you have very little chance getting to the green in 2 esp if you're hitting just off the fairway from 180 in rough.

Not much, really. There has been very little technological advancement in iron design. SGI irons are easier to hit straight, but they are also terrible from less than pristine lies. They do help people with swings that are way too steep, but you're a much better golfer than that.

All the distance gains in irons come from strengthening the lofts and lengthening the shafts. Both of which make the club harder to hit.

For example, every iron Tiger has ever played as a pro has been an exact clone of his Mizuno MP14/MP29 combo set that he used as an amateur.

I went from a three year old set of I5s to a 23 year old set of Eye 2 + no + irons at the end of 2011. The Eye 2s are essentially as long, and more forgiving.

I would probably score better where I'd play if I would take the driver out of the back on most holes. I could hit a 5 wood and have a mid-short iron approach in on almost all the Par 4s, and still several wedge opportunities, but I play for birdies, thus bringing in double bogeys, and worse.

Here's something you could try, and it's both useful and fun: go to the range and learn how to hit a half driver. I did this last year because there is a Par 4 I play that plays about 240 and I would have to nut a 3 wood to get it there and if I hit it poorly at all I would be blocked out by trouble. I found that taking a half-3/4 swing with a driver would put me on or near the surface with far fewer issues if I didn't make a good swing. It would be a wise way to play those shortish par 4s.

Wow, really dumb move by Tiger, just hit a circus cut from the deep rough on hole 8. Did a chicken wing thing with his elbow, really dumb if you ask me. He is up 8 strokes on second place, not a time to pull this type of shot with the major coming up and his injury history.

And almost sunk the chip for birdie.

Getting off the tee is critical in golf, absolutely critical. It is just below putting, but only just below it.

With today's 3 wood distances, if you are a young strong golfer, you don't really need a driver cause the 3 wood goes 270+. Hit that sucker straight off most tees and you are near scratch golfer I would think.

I still carry a driver, but I probably shouldn't.

The half driver is a fun shot, rolls a long way for me. I like the half three wood too on holes where I should be hitting a long iron.