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RealSNR 11-12-2024 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefGator (Post 17802429)
Honestly, many times it felt like Tyreek was fielding punts out there... he would just go get the damn ball. He really was special. I wonder if the Chiefs realized how special he was as a WR when they let him walk. Sometimes you get spoiled.

I think they realized how special two Super Bowl trophies are

Chiefspants 11-12-2024 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 17802470)
The 13 second game never happens without Reek.

Pity this was how it ended.

https://www.usatoday.com/gcdn/presto...pjpg&auto=webp

JPH83 11-12-2024 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17801886)
Fellas - he hasn't had a good deep ball his entire career.

He just used to have Tyreek Hill out there flagging it down.

He needs to work on his deep ball technique. Probably can't be done until the offseason. But he throws it flat and always has.

O.City thinks he throws it that way because he's late to pull the trigger and has to get more on it. It's as logical a reason as any, really. I think he's just in love with his arm a bit and has never had a good 'run under' receiver - even Hill preferred to jump up and turn to catch it.

In either event, it's just a technique issue that he's going to want to work on. I see no reason to believe he can't eventually get it figured out but right now it's just not a club he has with any regularity.

Amazed it's taken this long for someone to say this and have people agree!

RunKC 11-13-2024 12:46 PM

He knows. He watches film too. 100% confident it will get fixed by January

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DJ's left nut 11-13-2024 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 17802470)
The 13 second game never happens without Reek.

The 49ers SB doesn't happen either. Obviously there's WASP but lets remember that we had the 1 seed that year because of a goddamn remarkable play from Reek (and Pat) in the Ravens game.

Without that, we're playing some road games in the post-season and we certainly don't have that cake-walk of a schedule with the way the seeding would've broken out.

I'll never shit on Tyreek (now, anyway. I shit on him plenty back before the details on his college stuff emerged). That dude was an animal for the Chiefs and helped lay the foundation of the team as it presently exists.

I'd love to get a farewell tour from him someday and still think we will.

Nor will I ever criticize Veach for dealing him - we did what we had to do.

TheGuardian 11-13-2024 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17803118)
The 49ers SB doesn't happen either. Obviously there's WASP but lets remember that we had the 1 seed that year because of a goddamn remarkable play from Reek (and Pat) in the Ravens game.

Without that, we're playing some road games in the post-season and we certainly don't have that cake-walk of a schedule with the way the seeding would've broken out.

I'll never shit on Tyreek (now, anyway. I shit on him plenty back before the details on his college stuff emerged). That dude was an animal for the Chiefs and helped lay the foundation of the team as it presently exists.

I'd love to get a farewell tour from him someday and still think we will.

Nor will I ever criticize Veach for dealing him - we did what we had to do.

Yup. Reek flat out won us some of the biggest games we've played. Just due to his freak abilities alone.

I'd always welcome him back.

farmerchief 11-13-2024 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 17802495)
Amazed it's taken this long for someone to say this and have people agree!

I’ve always thought that way. Also thought he could use an off season working with Russell Wilson, who could show him how to get some lift on the ball, and let the WR run under it.

ThaVirus 11-13-2024 01:55 PM

I do miss the excitement of having Hill in our offense.

We’re winning more Super Bowls without him but ****ing A if that dude isn’t the most exciting player I’ve ever watched.. and that’s saying a lot from a fan of a franchise with Patrick Mahomes and Jamaal Charles. And Kelce out there itching to lob up a lateral at any moment lol

DJ's left nut 11-13-2024 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17803212)
I do miss the excitement of having Hill in our offense.

We’re winning more Super Bowls without him but ****ing A if that dude isn’t the most exciting player I’ve ever watched.. and that’s saying a lot from a fan of a franchise with Patrick Mahomes and Jamaal Charles. And Kelce out there itching to lob up a lateral at any moment lol

I'd give the nod to Jamaal. If for no other reason than the fact that he was IT.

He was all we had. And despite all that, he was still making magic happen game in, game out.

And there's something awfully impressive about taking that ball in a pile of people, bouncing off a couple of them and then exploding like a missile out the other side of the pile and just pulling away from dudes.

TheGuardian 11-13-2024 04:42 PM

Oh man that's easy. If we had the option of Pat and Jamaal or Pat and Reek it's always gonna be Pat and Jamaal.

That would literally be the most insane combo to possibly ever coexist in the NFL.

DRM08 11-13-2024 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17803118)
The 49ers SB doesn't happen either. Obviously there's WASP but lets remember that we had the 1 seed that year because of a goddamn remarkable play from Reek (and Pat) in the Ravens game.

Without that, we're playing some road games in the post-season and we certainly don't have that cake-walk of a schedule with the way the seeding would've broken out.

I'll never shit on Tyreek (now, anyway. I shit on him plenty back before the details on his college stuff emerged). That dude was an animal for the Chiefs and helped lay the foundation of the team as it presently exists.

I'd love to get a farewell tour from him someday and still think we will.

Nor will I ever criticize Veach for dealing him - we did what we had to do.

Setting aside Tyreek's legal troubles, my main problem with him was trashing Reid/Veach on the way out of the door. Those guys stood by him multiple times in his career when nobody else was willing to give him a shot.

BigRedChief 11-14-2024 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17801624)
Lastly, I agree that when we see the worst of Mahomes, it's either he's dicking around & being reckless (Not an issue this year), or he's so paranoid about bad OL (Tackle) play that he reverts into an average player (happening a lot this year).

And its a stinking travesty that he allows himself to regress to "normal".

Dunerdr 11-14-2024 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17803212)
I do miss the excitement of having Hill in our offense.

We’re winning more Super Bowls without him but ****ing A if that dude isn’t the most exciting player I’ve ever watched.. and that’s saying a lot from a fan of a franchise with Patrick Mahomes and Jamaal Charles. And Kelce out there itching to lob up a lateral at any moment lol

We had prime Tyreek, Kelce and a young Mahomes all on one team. Absolutely insane.

dlphg9 11-14-2024 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17803638)
Setting aside Tyreek's legal troubles, my main problem with him was trashing Reid/Veach on the way out of the door. Those guys stood by him multiple times in his career when nobody else was willing to give him a shot.

I mean he was well out of the door when he started doing his talking, but the dude is obsessed with attention and I really don't think he means half the shit he says.

chiefforlife 11-15-2024 11:39 AM

I keep having this feeling that this is the week Worthy explodes!

By explodes, I mean at least one deep ball goes for 6. Maybe more.

Buffalo has seen the tape, they are likely sleeping on Worthy and have much to worry about with Kelce, D Hop and now Juju.

Chiefs are Underdogs, Bills will score points and Patrick is gonna want to out play Josh. What better way to do that then a couple bombs to Worthy after slicing the Bills up with short and intermediate stuff.

Am I crazy? I am considering starting Worthy on my fantasy team, thats how strongly I feel about this week with Worthy.

What say you fellas?

pugsnotdrugs19 11-15-2024 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 17805810)
I keep having this feeling that this is the week Worthy explodes!

By explodes, I mean at least one deep ball goes for 6. Maybe more.

Buffalo has seen the tape, they are likely sleeping on Worthy and have much to worry about with Kelce, D Hop and now Juju.

Chiefs are Underdogs, Bills will score points and Patrick is gonna want to out play Josh. What better way to do that then a couple bombs to Worthy after slicing the Bills up with short and intermediate stuff.

Am I crazy? I am considering starting Worthy on my fantasy team, thats how strongly I feel about this week with Worthy.

What say you fellas?

Yeah I posted in the Bills thread, I think this is the week they break out some of the nuanced routes Worthy showed in college but hasn't done with us yet.

I'm saying at least one nasty pivot route inside the 5-yard line where he is isolated on one side of the formation.

chiefforlife 11-15-2024 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17805823)
Yeah I posted in the Bills thread, I think this is the week they break out some of the nuanced routes Worthy showed in college but hasn't done with us yet.

I'm saying at least one nasty pivot route inside the 5-yard line where he is isolated on one side of the formation.

I like that! Gotta improve our red zone offense and that would be a great play to break out. Bills would never see it coming.

JPH83 11-15-2024 12:05 PM

Not sure Worthy breaks out this year. I don't think it's a lack of route diversity that has held him back. Teams are not scared of Worthy but they really haven't had to be. Would LOVE to have a genuine deep ball connection with Mahomes develop, but a lot is going to depend on Mahomes

hawkchief 11-15-2024 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17804295)
We had prime Tyreek, Kelce and a young Mahomes all on one team. Absolutely insane.

Don't forget Kareem in his prime, as well.

TEX 11-15-2024 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 17805810)
I keep having this feeling that this is the week Worthy explodes!

By explodes, I mean at least one deep ball goes for 6. Maybe more.

Buffalo has seen the tape, they are likely sleeping on Worthy and have much to worry about with Kelce, D Hop and now Juju.

Chiefs are Underdogs, Bills will score points and Patrick is gonna want to out play Josh. What better way to do that then a couple bombs to Worthy after slicing the Bills up with short and intermediate stuff.

Am I crazy? I am considering starting Worthy on my fantasy team, thats how strongly I feel about this week with Worthy.

What say you fellas?

I say we do not have a LT and can not give Mahomes the time he needs in the pocket to "break out" of anything.

New World Order 11-15-2024 12:13 PM

Worthy can run in a straight line and take sweeps.

Hes basically been a faster Mecole Hardman so far.

Altho I do think hes a better route runner. He needs more strength. He has trouble with any contested catches. He only weighs 100 lbs.

pugsnotdrugs19 11-15-2024 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 17805881)
I say we do not have a LT and can not give Mahomes the time he needs in the pocket to "break out" of anything.

That's probably cost them a couple downfield pass attempts but IDK that any of their misses on the throws have had anything to do with the LT.

Monticore 11-15-2024 12:27 PM

After last years kadarius fiasco I think this team wants this one bad , Pat was pussed last year about losing that 1

Sassy Squatch 11-15-2024 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17805885)
That's probably cost them a couple downfield pass attempts but IDK that any of their misses on the throws have had anything to do with the LT.

Mahomes having less confidence in his protection, especially the blindside, absolutely affects everything about his play. He's gotten to the point where he makes a proper read or two from the pocket and then bails and tries to preemptively extend the play even when he's in a clean pocket.

RunKC 11-15-2024 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17805920)
Mahomes having less confidence in his protection, especially the blindside, absolutely affects everything about his play. He's gotten to the point where he makes a proper read or two from the pocket and then bails and tries to preemptively extend the play even when he's in a clean pocket.

Yup. And we are seeing the same exact thing from Stroud in Houston. OL is so important.

-King- 11-15-2024 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17805823)
Yeah I posted in the Bills thread, I think this is the week they break out some of the nuanced routes Worthy showed in college but hasn't done with us yet.

I'm saying at least one nasty pivot route inside the 5-yard line where he is isolated on one side of the formation.

I want to see this more than I want to see a deep shot honestly. Just give me some regular WR plays. If we can get those, the deep shots will come.

crispystl 11-15-2024 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17806018)
I want to see this more than I want to see a deep shot honestly. Just give me some regular WR plays. If we can get those, the deep shots will come.

I'm really surprised we haven't hit him on some deep crossers here and there.

UChieffyBugger 11-15-2024 02:45 PM

Would be utterly epic if Worthy has a big game against the Bills which helps seal a win!!..LOL them folks would lose it ROFL

New World Order 11-15-2024 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 17806070)
Would be utterly epic if Worthy has a big game against the Bills which helps seal a win!!..LOL them folks would lose it ROFL

That would be awesome lol

chiefforlife 11-16-2024 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 17806070)
Would be utterly epic if Worthy has a big game against the Bills which helps seal a win!!..LOL them folks would lose it ROFL

Extra motivation to get Worthy involved? Yes!

I just feel like having D Hop, Kelce and Juju out there is much more like what the Chiefs were expecting to have with Rice and Hollywood.

This would be the first time all year that they can use Worthy like they wanted to all along.

-King- 11-17-2024 06:35 PM

He dominated a drive doing actual WR plays. Then he ****ed up on that deep ball and never saw a target the rest of the game.

I don't understand this offense and how they use players.

Rasputin 11-17-2024 06:38 PM

Man that one drive was phenomenal but needed more of that.

Bl00dyBizkitz 11-17-2024 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17811858)
He dominated a drive doing actual WR plays. Then he ****ed up on that deep ball and never saw a target the rest of the game.

I don't understand this offense and how they use players.

I'd hardly say he ****ed up the deep ball. There was like 5 yards of space between the sideline and the closest defender. But he could've timed the toe tap better, that's for sure.

ThaVirus 11-17-2024 06:40 PM

He ****ed it up.

He had a great drive and looked the part for those few minutes, but call a spade a spade.

Megatron96 11-17-2024 06:42 PM

He had a much better day today.


But he really needs to work on knowing where the sideline is. It's kind of wild just how far off he's been so far.

-King- 11-17-2024 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17811900)
I'd hardly say he ****ed up the deep ball. There was like 5 yards of space between the sideline and the closest defender. But he could've timed the toe tap better, that's for sure.

Mahomes shouldn't have led him that far but that's a catch a WR has to make 10/10 times. His sideline awareness is astonishing to be honest

TwistedChief 11-17-2024 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17811935)
Mahomes shouldn't have led him that far but that's a catch a WR has to make 10/10 times. His sideline awareness is astonishing to be honest

He should’ve made the catch. Absolutely no question. WRs are asked to make much more difficult plays near the sidelines than that under duress.

That said, it’s a sample size of 2. And it says something that he’s had that much free space both times he’s messed up.

Separation counts for a lot too.

Bl00dyBizkitz 11-17-2024 06:48 PM

Dude gets open and is good with the ball in his hands.

Just needs more targets imo.

Sassy Squatch 11-17-2024 06:48 PM

Quite frankly a lot more irritating than he got sent to the shadow realm again. Dude ain't going to get much better if he's constantly getting yanked/ignored after a bad play.

TEX 11-17-2024 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17811935)
Mahomes shouldn't have led him that far but that's a catch a WR has to make 10/10 times. His sideline awareness is astonishing to be honest

Yep, he dragged his feet before he made the catch.

dlphg9 11-17-2024 06:51 PM

Mahomes is the best in the world, but can't throw a wide open pass a few yards over? Worthy was out by the length of his big toe.

TEX 11-17-2024 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17811932)
He had a much better day today.


But he really needs to work on knowing where the sideline is. It's kind of wild just how far off he's been so far.

Agreed. What says it all, on that long pass play, he actually dragged his feet, before he made the catch.

Bl00dyBizkitz 11-17-2024 06:51 PM

I guess not that it matters because when Worthy is open, it's while Mahomes is running for his life to the other side of the field.

dlphg9 11-17-2024 06:52 PM

****ing get it just a bit over and that's a god damn touch down.

TEX 11-17-2024 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17812019)
I guess not that it matters because when Worthy is open, it's while Mahomes is running for his life to the other side of the field.

Thats part of the problem also.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-17-2024 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17812011)
Mahomes is the best in the world, but can't throw a wide open pass a few yards over? Worthy was out by the length of his big toe.

He was open by 10 yards yet the pass drifted him too far to the sideline. It's on both actually. Hit him in stride and he scores

dlphg9 11-17-2024 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17811990)
Quite frankly a lot more irritating than he got sent to the shadow realm again. Dude ain't going to get much better if he's constantly getting yanked/ignored after a bad play.

Yeah, the offense went to shit after that.

dlphg9 11-17-2024 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17812030)
He was open by 10 yards yet the pass drifted him too far to the sideline. It's on both actually. Hit him in stride and he scores

I agree he probably should have caught it, but some are trying to act like he can't make any kind of mistakes as a rookie and the best player ever is the one who started the mistake by ****ing up another deep throw.

ChiefGator 11-17-2024 07:49 PM

He should have caught it... DHop would have pulled that down and got his feet in.. hell, Watson had some good catches.

It is okay, he is rookie, but this is clearly a place he needs to work on.

New World Order 11-17-2024 07:51 PM

He finally showed up today for...

a quarter.

But I will say what he did today was encouraging. He needs some serious work though getting both feet in bounds.

Good lord.

MahomesMagic 11-17-2024 07:56 PM

Worthy has zero awareness.

jerryaldini 11-17-2024 07:57 PM

He's going to be so much fun to watch in space. His TD runs have been electric.

KCUnited 11-17-2024 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17812252)
Worthy has zero awareness.

He’d fit in here

Megatron96 11-17-2024 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 17812016)
Agreed. What says it all, on that long pass play, he actually dragged his feet, before he made the catch.



This is what I'm saying. Worthy has absolutely no sideline awareness. He dragged his toe a full 2+ yds from the line? If he does it correctly it's a routine catch.

RunKC 11-17-2024 08:03 PM

Mahomes with another horrific miss today. The kid was wide the hell open. Nobody within 15 yards of him and a terrible throw

jerryaldini 11-17-2024 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 17812254)
He’d fit in here

ROFL

Papachief 11-17-2024 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17812264)
Mahomes with another horrific miss today. The kid was wide the hell open. Nobody within 15 yards of him and a terrible throw

Agreed,
Yes Worthy could have made the play with better awareness, but it could have been a TD with a better throw.

TheGuardian 11-17-2024 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17812264)
Mahomes with another horrific miss today. The kid was wide the hell open. Nobody within 15 yards of him and a terrible throw

I feel like there's a pattern here.........

Pasta Little Brioni 11-17-2024 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17812238)
He finally showed up today for...

a quarter.

But I will say what he did today was encouraging. He needs some serious work though getting both feet in bounds.

Good lord.

Open by 15 yards for a 70 yard TD and Mahomes somehow drifts one almost out of bounds. It's simply incredible how bad Pat has been this year at times.

He has 6 TDs on the year but should have over a dozen already. VERY EASILY

TheGuardian 11-17-2024 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17812314)
Open by 15 yards for a 70 yard TD and Mahomes somehow drifts one almost out of bounds. It's simply incredible how bad Pat has been this year at times

If it wasn't Pat, and we'd won SB's and all the previous years stuff, we'd all be screaming for this dude to be benched.

He's been that bad this season

suzzer99 11-17-2024 08:38 PM

A couple thinking outside the box ideas:

Hypnotize Worthy to think the sideline is actually 2 feet closer than it really is.

Make him wear some kind of device in practice that shocks him if his feet ever step on the wrong side of sideline.

Easy 6 11-17-2024 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 17812367)
A couple thinking outside the box ideas:

Hypnotize Worthy to think the sideline is actually 2 feet closer than it really is.

Make him wear some kind of device in practice that shocks him if his feet ever step on the wrong side of sideline.

A shock collar?

I like it

Pasta Little Brioni 11-17-2024 08:40 PM

I think the kid is incredible. It's a shame he doesn't have double digital TDs

Megatron96 11-17-2024 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 17812367)
A couple thinking outside the box ideas:

Hypnotize Worthy to think the sideline is actually 2 feet closer than it really is.

Make him wear some kind of device in practice that shocks him if his feet ever step on the wrong side of sideline.



JC, this is actually a great idea. It's either that, or Worthy never runs a route outside the numbers for the rest of his career.

BigChiefTN 11-17-2024 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 17812367)
A couple thinking outside the box ideas:

Hypnotize Worthy to think the sideline is actually 2 feet closer than it really is.

Make him wear some kind of device in practice that shocks him if his feet ever step on the wrong side of sideline.

This isn't ALL on Worthy .... The placement by PM is a large contributor to many of his sideline mistakes - In fact a few of those could have easily been TD throws if he led him a few yards in from the sideline instead of AT the sideline ..

suzzer99 11-17-2024 08:45 PM

Yeah for sure.

RealSNR 11-17-2024 08:52 PM

He missed a deep play? Oh well. Keep firing that ****er to him. If he’s open then throw to him

-King- 11-17-2024 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17812417)
He missed a deep play? Oh well. Keep firing that ****er to him. If he’s open then throw to him

This.

Makes no sense for him to have 4 catches for 61 yards on one drive in the first quarter and end the game with...4 catches for 61 yards.

Ok, he's not good at the deep stuff yet. But he was clearly good enough on the other routes. ****ing keep throwing to him on those.

philfree 11-17-2024 09:11 PM

He's doing great for a rook. Just improve a little every week and by the playoffs he'll be a factor. He was a factor today early in the game. We good!

-King- 11-17-2024 10:55 PM

I wonder if they drafted McConkey they'd use him the way the Chargers are. Cause he has more yards already than Worthy is on pace for. We are so bad at developing and utilizing young wide receivers.

pugsnotdrugs19 11-17-2024 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17812782)
I wonder if they drafted McConkey they'd use him the way the Chargers are. Cause he has more yards already than Worthy is on pace for. We are so bad at developing and utilizing young wide receivers.

Man McConkey dropped a wide open 3rd down conversion like 20 yards down field near the sideline a half hour ago.

The overreactions on here, even after these last several years, are just incredible.

FloridaMan88 11-17-2024 11:03 PM

That missed deep pass was also on Mahomes… a more accurate pass wouldn’t have made the sideline a factor.

-King- 11-17-2024 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17812787)
Man McConkey dropped a wide open 3rd down conversion like 20 yards down field near the sideline a half hour ago.

The overreactions on here, even after these last several years, are just incredible.

So do you disagree that they could be utilizing Worthy more and that the way they develop WRs is questionable?

FFS, even this year Rashee Rice was basically the slant and screen guy with his ADOT of 5 yards. Do you think he's only capable of running routes under 10 yards or do you think we underutilized him the past season plus? Cause I think he's far more capable than just catching 5 yards passes and hoping to get YAC after. Just my opinion though. I'm not saying we should have drafted McConkey instead. Just pointing out yet another rookie WR who gets to actually play and be a real factor every week while we have to always say "he's just a rookie" "Reid's playbook" "WRs in this offense blah blah blah".

dlphg9 11-18-2024 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17812782)
I wonder if they drafted McConkey they'd use him the way the Chargers are. Cause he has more yards already than Worthy is on pace for. We are so bad at developing and utilizing young wide receivers.

They'd use McConkey like they're using Worthy.

Worthy was running good routes and then should have had another long TD, but Pat puts it too close to the sidelines and then they go from force feeding him to not looking his way the rest of the game.

It's beyond ****ing ridiculous.

dlphg9 11-18-2024 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17812797)
So do you disagree that they could be utilizing Worthy more and that the way they develop WRs is questionable?

FFS, even this year Rashee Rice was basically the slant and screen guy with his ADOT of 5 yards. Do you think he's only capable of running routes under 10 yards or do you think we underutilized him the past season plus? Cause I think he's far more capable than just catching 5 yards passes and hoping to get YAC after. Just my opinion though. I'm not saying we should have drafted McConkey instead. Just pointing out yet another rookie WR who gets to actually play and be a real factor every week while we have to always say "he's just a rookie" "Reid's playbook" "WRs in this offense blah blah blah".

Yeah the whole Reid's play book is impossible to learn in one year is such a cop out. Andy just clearly trusts vets over rookies for the most part. We have no trouble starting FA WRa there first year here and they have to learn the whole play book.

BossChief 11-18-2024 12:47 AM

I was nice to see Worthy being featured in a package of plays. This is about the time they started feeding Rice more and more, last year. Hopefully, they increase the kids workload so they can build some chemistry down the stretch.

gordonelloyd 11-18-2024 12:47 AM

Once we stopped, throwing to worthy, we started to lose. He probably should have caught that Deep ball for sure, but it was another instance of Mahomes, throwing a bad pass when worthy was completely open. Just don’t understand why we are using him so poorly.

Mecca 11-18-2024 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by gordonelloyd (Post 17812875)
Once we stopped, throwing to worthy, we started to lose. He probably should have caught that Deep ball for sure, but it was another instance of Mahomes, throwing a bad pass when worthy was completely open. Just don’t understand why we are using him so poorly.

Mahomes deep ball is so bad man, hes gotta stop throwing line drives and leading dudes right out of bounds.

dlphg9 11-18-2024 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by gordonelloyd (Post 17812875)
Once we stopped, throwing to worthy, we started to lose. He probably should have caught that Deep ball for sure, but it was another instance of Mahomes, throwing a bad pass when worthy was completely open. Just don’t understand why we are using him so poorly.

He's a rookie

That's about the only thing I can think of. Worthy runs great ****ing routes, so we don't only need to throw bombs to him. Let the guy run some slants or somethinf else towards the middle of the field. A couple of screens might be nice too.

dlphg9 11-18-2024 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17812877)
Mahomes deep ball is so bad man, hes gotta stop throwing line drives and leading dudes right out of bounds.

He's always been fairly average to bad at throwing the deep ball. I hate it, because every season since he's become a household name the commentators will say that the other teams defense is lucky, because he doesn't miss many of those throws. He actually misses a lot of them.


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