Josh and his teammates had to literally watch one of their brothers, their best friends in the entire world, a guy they loved more than life itself DIE on the field last year!!!

They are a TUFF bunch to go thru all of that.

You mean the guy who was on the field last night when he shouldn't have been and as a result cost the bills the game and most likely the season?

If Josh Allen were a real man he would have tied Hamlin’s dead arms around his neck and worn him like a Superman cape as he lead the Bills to victory that night.

Mr January may have to settle for Pro Bowl alternate

Diclix bot? What a homo!

A huge quitter will never win an SB with that loser attitude.

Guess I swallowed the hook too.

You can give ChatGPT a certain personality to guide its responses?

Honestly though, what does it say about that team that we would so readily believe it?

The fact that it is believable says it all though.

Yep. Only in the paid version.

Allen and Lamar went to the same training for uncatchable rocket balls. No short game.

People still supporting Josh Allen are really, really into egg facials

Didn't notice these posted yesterday....

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">13 seconds will haunt the Bills forever <a href="https://t.co/mUgZZH1o3i">pic.twitter.com/mUgZZH1o3i</a></p>&mdash; NFL Memes (@NFL_Memes) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_Memes/status/1724449957527027842?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 14, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ken Dorsey today to the 12th man on the field for the Bills last night <a href="https://t.co/D0enZ5A46M">pic.twitter.com/D0enZ5A46M</a></p>&mdash; NFL Memes (@NFL_Memes) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_Memes/status/1724465000075423794?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 14, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yep, you're right. Now that you say that, I do recall all of that. He knew his team was no longer going to dominate the AFC. He couldn't handle the diversity that was coming their way.

I'm loving that. My nephew, a Patriots fan (not sure how as I don't even know if he's ever been out of the state of Kansas), keeps trying to tell everyone that Mac Jones is not a bad QB. Blames it on the WRs, the offensive line, etc., etc. It's all just excuses for a QB that just isn't that good. And I make sure to remind him of that. :evil:

Wow!

:doh!:

A narcissist 'til the end.

There's still a lot of optimism at 2Bills drive. You love to see it!

Diggs is definitely out of there next year. I'd imagine it's a big rebuild kidna thing at this point.

First, **** the Bills it's ****ing wonderful to see them flounder. It's glorious seeing their players realize their super bowl window closed. Diggs is going to be a hell of a receiver for the cowboys next year, and Allen is already contemplating retirement. The only schadenfreude I'd enjoy more is watching this happen to the Cinci Bungholes. That'll be this time next season though.

Second, I could use some expert opinions and I don't know where else to ask this without starting a new post. Where in the stadium is the most fun place to sit for a game? I've sat all over the stadium over the years, but the crowd has changed as prices rise. I want to take my brother to the game and I want it to be around other fans that like to be loud and stand and drink beer all game.

Last year I sat row 3 of 346 for the Jags playoff game and that was one of the worst fan experiences I've had. It was full of old farts that literally sat the entire game with their arms crossed. Never stood never cheered, just occasionally clapped. Why go if you're not going to get into it? One or two of them told people to sit down. The only fun people were three 60ish year old women behind us that got shitfaced and started cursing the old men and screaming. For the 2022 Chiefs/Bills playoff game I sat in 319 and it was a great group of crazy fans and a few sad face Bills fans.

Price isn't a major concern, but I'm likely not going crazy at $1000 a seat. Thanks for any help.
FTR

Sit in the bottom bowl somewhere.

This thread was doomed when the title was misspelled.

who got da copypasta?

Sean McDermott firing Bills OC Ken Dorsey is a desperate move by desperate coach

https://theathletic.com/5064917/2023...tt-ken-dorsey/

I am NOT a HATER! I LOVE Ken Dorsey but, reality is reality. We are down in the standings, left late to get Hamlin off the field and we are NOT scoring in the red zone. I do not understand what is going on with our QUARTERBACK as well as what the hell is going on with the TURNOVERS! Will we make the playoffs, MAYBE! Will we win Sunday? NO! THIS SUCKS!!

NO THE ARTICLE

Thought the same thing the second I heard about it.

I am NOT a HATER! I LOVE The Athletic but, reality is reality. We are down free content, left late to renew and we are NOT scoring search points with Google. I do not understand what is going on with our PAYWALL as well as what the hell is going on with the REST OF THE ARTICLE! Will we get an idea of what the article is about, YES! Will we pay to read the rest of it? NO! THIS SUCKS!!

In your dreams, ya freaking goober.

You're right. Already happened.

Unless someone is willing to trade a haul for him, I think his contract makes it a hard trade.

Since the Bills aren't Tom Brady's plaything anymore. They're kinda left to the rest of the AFC to abuse

Damn, OJ really killing Dorsey here…

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Scapegoat! He was the problem. <a href="https://t.co/EyJDS7ktWI">pic.twitter.com/EyJDS7ktWI</a></p>&mdash; O.J. Simpson (@TheRealOJ32) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRealOJ32/status/1724866794736001050?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 15, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Damn. That’s a scathing article.

where's the ****ing COPYPASTA OF IT?

So, you're allowed to CP entire articles that are behind a paywall here?

https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2...AQFi/giphy.gif

If a mod chimes in, i'll do it.

no one's going to ban you, pussy

contribute

EARN YOUR ****ING KEEP TROLL

ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. — Sean McDermott had plenty of reasons for firing offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey on Tuesday morning, just a few hours after the Buffalo Bills lost to the Denver Broncos in embarrassing and inexplicable fashion on “Monday Night Football.” Josh Allen’s regression dating back to the middle of last season and an offense that hasn’t scored 30 points since Week 4 would be near the top of the list.


But the main reason McDermott fired Dorsey now is because the head coach is desperate. McDermott knew he needed to do something. You could tell that much from the way he didn’t immediately shoot down a postgame question about whether he needed to make a drastic change to get the Bills’ season back on track after falling to 5-5.

Then, in explaining the decision to fire Dorsey on Tuesday, McDermott conceded the urgency.

“We’re going in five days back into that locker room,” McDermott said. “I think it’s important those guys feel, ‘Hey something’s changed, and there’s something new that we can be excited about’ in terms of an opportunity to improve. That’s a piece of it. But like I said, it just got to be the right time right now to make the move and see if we can get some energy about our offense.”

That’s all valid. Dorsey deserves blame for how the Bills offense went from being one of the NFL’s most dominant to an inconsistent mess. Since Week 4, the Bills were 15th in the NFL in points scored in the first half. They led the NFL with eight first-half turnovers during that span and only three teams had more first-half three-and-outs. Slow starts doomed the Bills often. The offense became predictable, the players uninspired. If McDermott had acted with conviction, he would have made this move weeks ago or even in the offseason after the season’s totality provided evidence of decline.

Doing so at this very moment makes it feel as if Dorsey is the scapegoat. Particularly after the way the Broncos game went. We can start with Dorsey’s side of the ball. The Bills had another miserable start on offense, scoring just eight points in the first half and committing a total of four turnovers during the game. Those turnovers, though, were careless plays by individual players. James Cook fumbled on the first offensive play. Allen’s first interception bounced off Gabe Davis’ hands and into the arms of a Broncos defender. Allen’s second interception was a careless and inaccurate throw. The final fumble came when Allen simply dropped the ball. That’s four drives ruined that Dorsey had little to do with. If the argument is that Dorsey, as the offensive coach, is responsible for his players being focused and not committing those errors, that’s fine.


If that’s the case, then we should point out what ultimately cost the Bills against the Broncos. After Dorsey orchestrated a six-play, 75-yard go-ahead touchdown drive — on which the Bills ran the ball six straight times — all McDermott’s defense had to do was hold Russell Wilson and the Broncos for one more drive. The Bills couldn’t do it, though. With the Broncos at the edge of field goal range, McDermott called an all-out blitz that got home and knocked the Broncos back out of field goal range. On the next play, a third-and-10 from the Buffalo 45, McDermott decided to dial up the same pressure two plays in a row. Wilson recognized it and heaved a pass to Jerry Jeudy. Pass interference put the Broncos back in comfortable range for Wil Lutz.


The questionable decision to blitz was one thing. But then after a few kneeldowns, the Broncos rushed their kicking unit onto the field as the seconds ticked. McDermott’s defense looked confused as the Bills’ field goal block unit scrambled out. Lutz missed the 41-yard kick wide right, but the Bills had 12 players on the field. Lutz got another try from 36 yards and made it.

Game over, along with Dorsey’s tenure as the Bills’ offensive coordinator.

Consider this: Would McDermott have fired Dorsey if the Bills simply had 11 men on the field and improved to 6-4? Likely not. The result, for which McDermott was largely responsible, necessitated a change of some kind. McDermott said Tuesday, “I’m the head coach of the football team. I always started with myself first. I think that’s the right way to do things as a leader. And I try to do that. We can all be better, starting with me.”

Those words feel hollow on a day like Tuesday, though. It doesn’t start with the head coach. It never does in the NFL. It ends with the head coach, but only after he has sacrificed every other scapegoat. McDermott claimed Tuesday that he tries to be hands-off with his coordinators and let them put their signature on each phase of the game. But he’s the one who was publicly voicing his desire for Allen to run less. The quarterback looks like a shell of himself, and McDermott has a hand in that. The two speak daily, and McDermott is one who established Buffalo’s culture and runs the building.


What happens next for the Bills after firing offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey?

McDermott’s heavy-handed approach to wanting more balance on offense left Brian Daboll frustrated by the end of his tenure as offensive coordinator. Other assistants have departed for lateral moves, some for reasons still mysterious. Leslie Frazier left during the offseason on his own, and McDermott took over the play calling.


McDermott seems allergic to taking accountability. When asked about having too many men on the field at the end of the Broncos game, he said it was special teams coordinator Matt Smiley who made the decision to send the field goal block unit onto the field. Yet McDermott is the head coach of the team and the coordinator of the defense that needed to be subbed out. The lack of communication and preparation in that moment falls on him and him alone. But he couldn’t even say it.

This isn’t a new issue. After the Bills’ devastating loss in the final 13 seconds of the AFC Divisional Round against the Kansas City Chiefs in 2021, McDermott kept pointing to issues with execution on the kickoff and on defense. That’s code for blaming the players. Go back to 2017 when McDermott benched quarterback Tyrod Taylor after McDermott’s defense allowed 47 points in a loss to the New Orleans Saints. He said that decision was about “becoming a better football team,” but he had to reverse that decision a week later when Nathan Peterman threw five interceptions in a 54-24 loss. This is his pattern. Even after Monday’s loss, he repeatedly praised the defense — ostensibly patting himself on the back — and pointed to the injuries more than once.

The defense did play well for a little more than three quarters. Without five opening-night starters (linebacker Matt Milano, defensive tackle DaQuan Jones, cornerbacks Tre’Davious White and Christian Benford and safety Micah Hyde), the Bills held the Broncos to 15 points and 11 first downs through three quarters. Then, on Denver’s final two possessions, the Bills allowed nine points and eight first downs.

If that felt familiar, it’s because Buffalo’s defense has failed in other key spots this season. Zach Wilson drove down the field for a late score in the season opener against the New York Jets. Mac Jones, who has since been benched by the New England Patriots, led a game-winning drive against McDermott’s defense. Taylor came within a yard of doing the same. When the Bills are tied or leading by one score in the fourth quarter this season, McDermott’s vaunted defense drops to 28th in EPA/play, according to TruMedia. In the biggest moments, McDermott wilts.

So maybe firing Dorsey will give the team a spark and get the offense going. But it shouldn’t distract from the fact that a lot of the Bills’ biggest problems are McDermott’s doing. By firing Dorsey, McDermott removed another variable. He’s run out of coordinators to blame, and there’s no longer anywhere to hide.

I like this Clayster.

Feisty, Fearless and on the verge of back-to-back superbowls.

Let's see what happens when he realizes there are a buttload of words missing.

you ****ed it up but we got the jist

thanks

QUOTE=rfaulk34;17226070]ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. — Josh Allen is a liability. McDermott does not have the power to replace the turnover machine. This is his sixth season and this is just who Josh Allen is.

McDermott will be fired before the start of the next season. His replacement will have no power to deal with the inept monster the Bills' and NFL's PR department has created. So expect an NFL retread or first timer as McDermott's replacement. Untill Bills ownership grows a set of balls big enough to move on from Allen. Mediocrity will be the Bills future and playoff tomato can for the AFC.

The AFC is quite content with this arrangement even if Stefon Diggs isn't. Players nearing the end of their careers can find a golden parachute in Buffalo. But no golden ring. Chicken wings will remain a dietary staple in that part of New York as those fans just keep ****ing that, "Josh Allen is elite" chicken.[/QUOTE]

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I bet $200 the Bears were going to win the NFC.


This is a no judgement zone.

Going into the draft I said that Ryan Leaf was going to be a better QB than Peyton Manning.

Muther****ing Clay... :#

I cannot imagine why you would ever admit to that.

I said Deneric Prince reminded me of Kareem Hunt at training camp.

Because it's funny. People should laugh at it.

The Chiefs Bills divergence since :13 is an example of something we should probably pay attention to.

One team went one direction one went another. I'm guessing it was easier for the Chiefs to do what they did with a SB trophy in the case already though.

you don't have to admit it, launder your embarrassing takes through "my dumb friend said ..."

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Career replay challenge success %: <br>(vs. Superbowl coaches)<br><br>Sean McDermott 24.1% ������<br>Andy Reid 49.6%<br>Sean McVay 43.7%<br>Bruce Arians 49.2%<br>Bill Belichick 40.7%<br>Doug Pederson 47.4%<br>Pete Carroll 45.6%<br>John Harbaugh 43.5%<br>Tom Coughlin 47.3%<br>Sean Payton 44.3%<br>Tony Dungy 40.6% <a href="https://t.co/xeUto6Zyjc">pic.twitter.com/xeUto6Zyjc</a></p>&mdash; 7️⃣1️⃣6️⃣ TJ (@TJDMCR) <a href="https://twitter.com/TJDMCR/status/1725211577299722421?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 16, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Did you know Josh Allen in 86 games is comparable to Brett Farvre in 85 games? Coping in Buffalo

Let me know when it hits 13

So did I. LMAO

Interesting

Who the **** quotes something that big??? JFC

Can we unban DixLiqer for a week just to beat on him and then we can ban him again?

He missed the harshest beating.

Show us where on the twelve men on the field dolls. They tortured the most

McDermott got lit the **** up.

It's just standard Mahomes divisional round curse fare.

So far, only Trevor Lawrence hasn't had some catastrophe befall his career after losing a divisional playoff to Mahomes.

2019 Andrew Luck. Retires suddenly in preseason.

2020 Deshaun Watson. L.O.L.

2021 Baker Mayfield. How many team changes now?

2022 Josh Allen. Guy is a hero ball turnover machine. A faster version of Jeff George.

The Chiefs are so in the Bills fans heads. About half their Burrow thread is how it helps the Chiefs win another SB.

"I have a problem with it because it adds credence to the whole theory that Mahomes is going to go down as the best player in pro sports/NFL history. Plus it doesn't help matters that their GM keeps drafting all pro superstars year after year while most NFL teams hope to just land serviceable starters.

I was a Mahomes doubter since day one (if anything because I knew the Bills traded him to KC) but all this guy and team keeps doing is winning and they are set up to do something that no team has ever done and win 3 or more SB's in a row assuming they get a 2nd straight this year."

Maybe the NFC can salvage Allen's image

such respect

they know their masters

I almost feel sorry for the Bills fans.

Where's a good Ravens board?

We need to be reading up. Only one team is not bending the knee to us at the moment.

I bet Diggs would sign in KC for free if Buffalo releases him in the offseason.

Dude just wants to win at this point and would be perfect in this system. Even at this stage of his career.

You are 5 - 5. NOT happening! ROFL I am LOVING this! Keep dreaming! :clap:

I remember him staying on the field watching KC after the playoff loss. You could almost tell that he may have had an opportunity to go to KC and didn’t or something with the way he was looking. Like “damn. I ****ed up and that should have been me”

If he becomes a free agent, I’ll be making a large wager on him coming to KC.

I would think he ends up in Dallas. They have a very good roster and of course his brother is there. Weaker conference too.

I petition the league to bring back Dorsey as OC.

I suggest U be banned. :)

Maybe the Phillies will have a post SB win let down game against the Billies. So we can hear how much better Allen is than Mahomes

:)